MWEB Uncapped ADSL Feedback - Part 3

Lol.

Had MWeb Premium 4MB and it's not a patch on Crystalweb's Premium Uncapped. Not even in the same ballpark.

Mweb is "adequate" where CW is excellent.

This month stopped my CW to try cut some costs by using my free FNBConnect.

What a mistake. Can't wait for the new month to come then I'll try a CW Capped account to try save a little at least.
 

Crystal Web offers very good quality bandwidth, I must say though I'm still surprised that some people have streaming issues, of which there are none with MWEB.

I cannot help what I observe some others commenting on, they are the ones reporting it and not me. I don't understand it, given CW's quality bandwidth.
 
Lol.

Had MWeb Premium 4MB and it's not a patch on Crystalweb's Premium Uncapped. Not even in the same ballpark.

Mweb is "adequate" where CW is excellent.

This month stopped my CW to try cut some costs by using my free FNBConnect.

What a mistake. Can't wait for the new month to come then I'll try a CW Capped account to try save a little at least.

In which areas were they not in the same ballpark? Always interesting to know.
 
In which areas were they not in the same ballpark? Always interesting to know.

Streaming quality (speed)

Reliability with regards to speed going up and down.

Throttling policy (pretty much non-existent at CW or I haven't reached it ever)

Passing the buck to Telkom.

But mostly the customer service. "Have you tried rebooting it" as an expert in this field that offends me.

Also let me just note that I ran three Business accounts a multiple of home DSL Premium accounts and another handful of multi site accounts with them, so it's not a view based on a singular experience.
 
Streaming quality (speed)

Strange one this, because MWEB is known for its quality streaming. I've never had an issue in years, being a heavy streamer, and I've never had anyone who's asked me to suggest an ISP for streaming (MWEB) complain. Even to this day, I read about people using other ISPs struggling with streaming. I can only think that they've made very poor ISP choices in the past, as I've been smiling all along.

I particularly see issues streaming Twitch and Supersport, and I don't understand why this is the case with other ISPs when I have zero issues.

Reliability with regards to speed going up and down.

I've never had an ISP more consistent than MWEB, and I know for a fact it doesn't end with me, because there are technically inclined people here using MWEB who swear by them too. Full speed every day and night for years, and trust me I notice it being behind a computer most hours of the day. This is confirmed by many others on this forum, so again it doesn't end with me. MWEB's uncapped accounts have practically been unshaped day and night ever since they came out.

I cannot understand how you had a different experience.

Throttling policy (pretty much non-existent at CW or I haven't reached it ever)

Compared with other ISPs who also enforce AUPs by shaping/throttling, MWEB aren't actually that bad. It gets much worse, and it's even worse with ISPs deemed 'better' through MyBb voting. Which, for the most part, we know should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Passing the buck to Telkom.

Can't say I've ever experienced this myself. MWEB just works, and there's basically never a need to phone in, or get in contact to resolve things, because it's simply never needed.

But mostly the customer service. "Have you tried rebooting it" as an expert in this field that offends me.

I don't agree that this says anything about an ISP, or about an ISP being poor. Rebooting is always the start of resolving some issues, and often works wonders due to modems/routers that simply need a reboot, among other reasons.

MWEB is also well known for its excellent telephone support. So again, I just cannot agree.

Also let me just note that I ran three Business accounts a multiple of home DSL Premium accounts and another handful of multi site accounts with them, so it's not a view based on a singular experience.

I cannot understand why you had the above issues. If you had the above issues then this thread would constantly have these issues reported. Yet it doesn't.

The only reasons I can understand why people wouldn't use MWEB are because of torrents/p2p being shaped during hours on the uncapped accounts (not sure if this is still the case?), and there being no news server. And to a lesser degree the thresholds for high volume users where they get better value elsewhere. I just cannot wrap my head around MWEB offering poor quality bandwidth, being 'up and down', etc. So I would appreciate it if you could explain.

I must say though, in principle, I'm very happy being on a network with fewer downloaders/'abusers'.
 
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Strange one this, because MWEB is known for its quality streaming. I've never had an issue in years, being a heavy streamer, and I've never had anyone who's asked me to suggest an ISP for streaming (MWEB) complain. Even to this day, I read about people using other ISPs struggling with streaming, particularly during hours. I can only think that they've made very poor ISP choices, as I've been smiling all along.

I particularly see issues streaming Twitch and Supersport, and I don't understand why this is the case with other ISPs when I have zero issues.

I can't really comment on Twitch or Supersport as I don't use those.

I presume you meant office hours? Yes that's never an issue on a Premium account.

It's not like I had issues streaming, just that I would get higher quality with CW.

Note I'm not saying MWeb is bad (like throwing them in with the rubbish ISP's) just that I find CW better overall.


I've never had an ISP more consistent than MWEB, and I know for a fact it doesn't end with me, because there are technically inclined people here using MWEB who swear by them too. Full speed every day and night for years, and I trust me I notice it being behind a computer most hours of the day. This is confirmed by many others on this forum, so again it doesn't end with me. MWEB's uncapped accounts have practically been unshaped day and night ever since they came out.

I cannot understand how you had a different experience.

Like I said I used a multitude of different account for different purposes from them, not just my own.

Mweb's non-premium accounts don't have any of the above benefits.


Compared with other ISPs who also enforce AUPs by shaping/throttling, MWEB aren't actually that bad. It gets much worse, and it's even worse with ISPs deemed 'better' through MyBb voting. Which, for the most part, we know should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Agreed their throttling policy isn't bad as it goes with the rolling window and I also much prefer.

Thing is I had to get familiar with it. On CW I've never needed to "manage" anything.

Can't say I've ever experienced this myself. MWEB just works, and there's basically never a need to phone in, or get in contact to resolve things, because it's simply never needed.

So because you are an outlier everything is magical? There are enough complaints on here to say otherwise.


I don't agree that this says anything about an ISP, or about an ISP being poor. Rebooting is always the start of resolving some issues, and often works wonders due to modems/routers that simply need a reboot, among other reasons.

It does when an expert has provided you the exact reason for the problem by monitoring the logs and only needs you to push the buttons, but you ignore them because you don't actually know what they are talking about.

Also you HAVE to call MWEB to get any kind of timely service...a terrible way to do IT.

This is through their premium business support as well, not even consumer level.

CW on the other side I can email and the one time I had an issue simply sent through my logs. Nobody treated me like an idiot and within an hour or two it was sorted.


MWEB is also well known for its excellent telephone support.
Well known by who?

What about their non-existent email support? Or chat support?


I cannot understand why you had the above issues. If you had the above issues then this thread would constantly have these issues reported. Yet it doesn't.

Why should I report my issues on a third party forum when I have a business account manager on speed dial?

You fix it at the source.

I'm sure that's how most people approach any problems they have.

You Sir are an MWeb evangelist based on not having had any issues (experience) yourself. By your own admittance.
 
I can't really comment on Twitch or Supersport as I don't use those.

I presume you meant office hours? Yes that's never an issue on a Premium account.

It's not like I had issues streaming, just that I would get higher quality with CW.

Note I'm not saying MWeb is bad (like throwing them in with the rubbish ISP's) just that I find CW better overall.

Then what do you use?

Yes, during hours means during office hours. Which Premium account? MWEB Standard and Premium uncapped bandwidth is both the same, and neither have issues, ever.

What quality issues did you have then? Is it for e.g. that you had MWEB 4Mbps and you could not achieve HD, or something? Please explain.

I know that you aren't saying MWEB is bad. I know that you're saying you find CW better. And I'm trying to find out why in my forever quest for objectivity.

Like I said I used a multitude of different account for different purposes from them, not just my own.

Mweb's non-premium accounts don't have any of the above benefits.

But MWEB Premium and Standard accounts' bandwidth quality is the same... :confused: It's only the thresholds which differ. Please elaborate here.

Agreed their throttling policy isn't bad as it goes with the rolling window and I also much prefer.

Thing is I had to get familiar with it. On CW I've never needed to "manage" anything.

Yes, there certainly are pros to MWEB's AUP enforcing which many other people do not see.

I understand that some people would have to manage things. Me, I've always had the right account for my needs, therefore never had to manage. And before someone thinks having the right account means paying out one's backside, see this where I explain MWEB actually offers good value - http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...d-useless!?p=17124191&viewfull=1#post17124191.

So because you are an outlier everything is magical? There are enough complaints on here to say otherwise.

That's the thing. I'm not an outlier, which is why this thread is always dead quiet. You say that there are enough complaints to say otherwise... Please show me these complaints? I'm talking about complaints which are not related to thresholds. Complaints about bandwidth quality and needing to phone in or get in touch to correct these issues?

It does when an expert has provided you the exact reason for the problem by monitoring the logs and only needs you to push the buttons, but you ignore them because you don't actually know what they are talking about.

Also you HAVE to call MWEB to get any kind of timely service...a terrible way to do IT.

This is through their premium business support as well, not even consumer level.

You'll need to give me the full story if I am to understand what went on which led to your belief that the customer service is not good.

I strongly disagree. Forum responses are on the ball, as well as social media. There's also live chat - http://www.mweb.co.za/help/home.aspx. The thing is that whenever I've called (which is next to never), or called from a client for passwords etc., the calls are answered instantly. Sure, there's an element of luck here, but it's consistent. Resolution here would be much quicker than text-based support.

CW on the other side I can email and the one time I had an issue simply sent through my logs. Nobody treated me like an idiot and within an hour or two it was sorted.

MWEB aren't big on email support. They encourage telephone and social media support. All ISPs provide support differently, some encourage text-based support over telephone support. Some people prefer text, some people prefer telephone, etc. Both methods have their pros and cons for the consumer as well as the business.

Well known by who?

What about their non-existent email support? Or chat support?

I witness it enough myself to know that it is true, and can compare it to what I experience when dealing with other ISPs. There are also plenty of examples on this forum which would not be obvious to you unless you spend time keeping up with the various ISP threads.

I think I've answered the support questions sufficiently already.

Why should I report my issues on a third party forum when I have a business account manager on speed dial?

You fix it at the source.

I'm sure that's how most people approach any problems they have.

I agree, but you know something is being done right when you are the second largest ISP in the country with the quietest thread. Just look at some of the other threads and you'll see.

You Sir are an MWeb evangelist based on not having had any issues (experience) yourself. By your own admittance.

What experience are you referring to? I have tons. What I can confirm is that in my quest to assist consumers, I recommend products/companies who offer better quality/service than other competitors.
 
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Youtube Again (MWEB 4Mb Uncapped Premium)

meh
 

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Only 6 more days and my MWEB account is gone. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Cool, more bandwidth for me then. :p Just FYI our company works off of a 4mbps account and I occasionally hit the 500KB/s plus range. Your poor internet experience then must be because of the amount of slots the exchange has for mweb, most probably why other isp's perform better. Rather k@k telkom out. And why go to a public forum to belittle a company? Does it make you feel better in some sort of way?
 
Cool, more bandwidth for me then. :p Just FYI our company works off of a 4mbps account and I occasionally hit the 500KB/s plus range. Your poor internet experience then must be because of the amount of slots the exchange has for mweb, most probably why other isp's perform better. Rather k@k telkom out. And why go to a public forum to belittle a company? Does it make you feel better in some sort of way?

I am sorry, I did not know I was not allowed to raise my opinion on a company that has offered me bad service. I will remember to in future only make sunshine and roses posts about companies.

My experience with MWEB has sucked. I have found their support to be useless, and my overall view of the company is just that.

I am allowed to raise it here, and let others know about my experience, just as you are allowed to praise them. People can then make up their own minds about who to use.
 
@saa044, want to explain this to me as I'm terribly confused...

Your poor internet experience then must be because of the amount of slots the exchange has for mweb, most probably why other isp's perform better.
 
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