MySignal.exe

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by lewstherin</i>
<br />Fine whatever ppl...obviously truth has no price, and screw anyone that stands to lose their livelihood. Thats a great way to polarise a forum designed to unite [:(]

<font color="blue">Telkom needs a leash, ICASA needs some guts, and the </font id="blue"><font color="red">SA consumer</font id="red"><font color="blue"> needs to make it happen</font id="blue">
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Truth should have no price tag, information should be free, and if anyone risks to lose their lively hood they should think twice about getting involved.

Definition of "forum" from dictionary.com :

The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was the assembly place for judicial activity and public business.

A public meeting place for open discussion.

A medium of open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper or a radio or television program.

A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among experts and often including audience participation.

A court of law; a tribunal.
 
[}:)] &lt;- Has actually met TheRodent and would value his technical opinions way above most other posters on this forum ...
 
Well I aint going nowhere either [:)]
If my "scare tactic" about damaging the modem annoyed some and was seen as a "blatant lie" well then so be it and for that and to those that it affended - I apologize.
The idea was for people, especially the much younger ones not to fiddle with the modems.
Regarding the commands, during the design of MySignal several people were helping me and we were also quite astonished in the amount of information that was out there regarding the command set.
When nroets made the post I got an anonymous mail "from above" (which I often get) and just incase, I went and made a noise on the forum - something that I will ignore in future.

Just a few things I want to make clear is that although I work for the company I am in no way an official representitive of Sentech and the posts I make on this forum are those of my own doing and often of my own opinion.
In no way am I instructed what to say or what not to say although I will abide by the policies laid out by the company which I think is only fair.

Maybe a MyWireless Technical forum would be a good idea at this stage as there, those that are interested in these fields could all participate and no doubt learn from one another.
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by hArTh</i>
<br />[}:)] &lt;- Has actually met TheRodent and would value his technical opinions way above most other posters on this forum ...
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Agreed, those of us who knows TheRodent for longer than this forum KNOWS him to be a goodguy, no matter what people say. Its not about who is right and who is wrong for me. Frankly, i could not give a rats ass about people making mistakes.
this has turned into a Rodent vs Proasm thing, not by them , but rather by the rest of us.

Proasm , i have spoken to you on irc, you are a nice person, very decent and polite. Kudos for that, i appreciate people dont have their heads up their asses like some ops in #mywireless.
TheRodent we have all known for God knows how long, if ever anyone had a problem with a technical issue, no matter if rodent have seen such a device before (which is unlikely), he will find a solution to the problem , or a workaround. That is just how i have known him. If you keep information from him, he will find his own, in record time, and create his own from scratch, that is just how he is, he is a "can do" person that doesnt wait to be spoon fed like 99% of the IT community who try to hide their stupidity by arrogance.

I have this warped sense of values i received from my father. Honest above all. ProAsm, you lied. I do not appreciate lies , nor any company who would ask their employees to lie for them. You have given alot of information , granted, but my brain is hardwired this way, i dont know which information I must believe and which ones were fabricated.

You have written the mysignal.exe application. granted, and i assume you implied that sentech gave you permission, if i am incorrect, my oppologies. At the time i saw the application i was amazed and wanted to write my own, that is just my nature. also hardwired that way but I had too little knowledge to start with to spend the time researching the basics, and frankly I had no needs that required me, as i assume you had a need for such an application , and developed it.

As for information sharing, this annoys me. Among vanity, arrogance and lying , stonewalling is my newest hate because of the amount of problems i have by some people who build castles of dedicated knowledge about topics, and refuse to share their only castle of knowledge in order to be unique in a crowd of the clueless(note, i am not directing this at proasm, this is past experiences). I am not targetting you, I am expressing one of my hates in life because dragging information out of someone litterally word by word is among the most annoying things I have done , which makes me not ask question as much and just go hunt down the information myself. Bragging about accomplishments is not the point, but if I had a need as big as rodents to develop something, I would have used the best of my abilities to do exactly the same, and where rodent would read the EULA on a product and follow the rules, I would do it and keep it to myself in order to get what ever i need to do , functional, but not harm anyone else.

The thing is, I have been in the same situation where you ask people nicely, please just do me a favour and put it in a module, library, component for me to call, make it simple so i dont have to do it myself and got absolutely NO response from the people that are able to give you assistance in your mission. The same goes for the Sentech website which gave problems with registration the day i registered the first time. I registered and saw what the site was doing wrong, changed my application and registered to not make the page fall over, mailed the support guys with the error and some reading material to make it more secure, and I get blasted by some ******* on IRC for hacking the sentech site, when all i did was basically send them the error message and some help.

I am annoyed by a few things tonight. Not directed towards anyone personally. ProAsm is still a friendly fellow but I will read posts with a pinch of salt and always wonder , as said before, i am hardwired that way, blame my father. Actually, all sentech guys now cause doubt in me because their company ask them to withold information. Sorry, but being in a parastatle goverment institution i can relate to the attitude, and I HATE THAT.

Now.. over to Rodent, I know your situation, but frankly you are wasting your time. You are seriously wasting your time trying to defend your point, or argue for or against people. Its not about if you are right. I dont think it ever was. It was not about opensource or transparency. The people here have not disclosed their reason for being asked to keep certain things from the public, be it to have the competitive bussiness edge over a competitor or perhaps the fear of discovering flaws they know about. You dont have to explain yourself , not to me and not to anyone on this forum so cheer up, its not personal. Fear of the unknown is what i classify it as. Having you on the side of a competitor is what sentech should fear.

A while back some dude said he crashed 6 networks. openly on the forum. Now why are we all smiling about THAT ? An confessed anarchist gets better treatment than the people on this thread?

my opinion on things like these in general, learn to spot a friend, learn to spot an anarchist, learn to spot an ally(friend) when ever that anarchist pops into your neighborhood , acknowledge your flaws and realize that you dont know everything and the person who you are slagging today, might be the guy you have to ask to save your ass tommorow.

in post comment on all... I am not english, and my way of explaining a point might be slightly flawed in syntax, something that I got annoyed with today because some people are anal about syntax and dont see the whole point wholisticly. They typically get stuck on someone spelling a name wrong, than trying to understand the point people are trying to make, and if this was an adult forum, i would be able to express myself better on my feelings about their attitude. Read what people mean, and try and understand. Play the ball, not the person.
 
Thumbs up to TadMad - that was probably the best post of this thread. I think you've summarised both sides very well, and I realise I have been "playing the man" in crticising Rodent.

Above all I entered this forum because I want to be involved in making broadband a reality in this country, and this forum houses some of the best qualified people to fight for that dream. My fear was that this thread would result in ProASM losing his job - for a post on a forum!

ProASM your apology is accepted (by me at least [:p]) and the suggestion of a Sentech Technical forum may be the best compromise option - ultimately its up to RPM to decide. I continue to look forward to your posts because they give an insight we cannot find elsewhere into the workings of the Sentech rollout.
Rodent - in the fracas I forgot your mention of writing a Linux driver for the IPWireless modem. That is a worthy effort, and I was blinded by the debate that ensued - I hope you will accept my apologies.

<font color="blue">Telkom needs a leash, ICASA needs some guts, and the </font id="blue"><font color="red">SA consumer</font id="red"><font color="blue"> needs to make it happen</font id="blue">
 
This wont be long - I promise [:D] No need to add to the above..

I just want to know (since all the important people read this thread [:p])

What is in the pipeline as yet, with Sentech MyWireless and also MySignal.exe?

Can someone give us a heads up perhaps on the prepaid rumours? Any expected features in MySignal (see my post in the "Centurion Reception" thread)?

Part of why we like reading ProAsm's posts so much (for example) is the *new* info not on the Sentech site - of which there hasnt been much for a while..

If anyone has any concrete updates - please post. Let's leave this debate above in the past and work together. Who says Rodent and ProAsm cant work together to make better drivers or Linux drivers etc anyway?
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ProAsm</i>
<br />Well I aint going nowhere either [:)]
If my "scare tactic" about damaging the modem annoyed some and was seen as a "blatant lie" well then so be it and for that and to those that it offended - I apologize.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Funny, as much i am wired to hate lying. I respect people more who are willing to apologize. if you need me to say "apology accepted", absolutely, you have it.. but I am not that vain to believe that I am the one who you are asking forgiveness for, I am not important enough for that, but you have my support none the less.

BTW, i saw this only after i clicked on submit... and the idea for you helping Rodent develop the driver and getting it sentech approved is not completely obsurd. Its not only him that require the driver, its the whole linux community. And making the Sentech package all that more appealing to linux users. It all adds up in my pea brain.
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mean_Monster</i>
<br />wonders on which IRC server the #mywireless Channel is [:I]
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trigun.shadowfire.org at #mywireless
dont know if there is any other, but i am usually on the shadowfire network.
 
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mean_Monster</i>
<br />Thanks for a speedy reply [:D]
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my pleasure, but dont expect the same kind of response on the channel, i think we are opting to be the sister channel of #idlersAnonymous
 
Big up to tad who i hold very dear to my heart, brilliant post and brilliant summary of your beliefs and to a big extent my beliefs too. I've been involved in a gaming community with TML and TheRodent for quite a long time and both are some of the most hard working and dedicated people i have ever met, i don't know ProAsm from a bar of soap but yet i pick up the same dedication from him that i've experienced from the two fore mentioned people.

ProAsm has gone beyond his job as a Sentech employee to premote and enhance the product that many of us have taken to. I think that all of us (including the childish slaters) can get past this and learn from the mistakes that have been made. ProAsm made a mistake, WOW, who hasn't, i bet he has learnt a lot from it. We have all learnt that there's many intelitgent people on this forum (and some not so inteligent people) that can add valuable information into the development and betterment of the product, arguements will happen, and they are not always bad, at least we can walk away from this open mindedly with a better understanding of each other.

To better times ahead !!!!
 
[}:)] &lt;- Forgot to mention he is more than impressed with ProAsm's willingness to share information and helpfull attitude. MyWireless (the company) should not underestimate the power of postive word of mouth referrals and, as such, should support ProAsm's efforts!
 
Now kiss and make up. [:D]

ProAsm - I am glad to see that you are still going to post in the forum. I think everyone has said enough about honesty and willingness to apologise so all I'm gonna say is you have my support.

TheRodent - I noticed a post about a gaming network. I am leader of the BHD -CZA- clan. Could you please contact me on [email protected] as I would like to get more involved.

Have a great one all.

Swonk taht eno ylno eht si nidrrym.
 
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