Nasa returning to the moon

beans100 said:
So the reflectors could only have been left by humans? If it were me, trying to hide something, I would've send reflectors over with rockets and robots and plant it there. Much easier.
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beans100 said:
Left behind by Robots??
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I have got to laugh at this
So first the argument by most conspiracy people is that the tech was not there for us to have gone to the moon in the 60's. But now, the tech was good enough for robots to have been sent to position some reflector dishes?? :rolleyes: Think people!!

Nevermind that for this consipiracy to work, the soviets would have had to be in on it as well!!

The Soviet Union monitored the missions at the Space Transmissions Corps, which was "fully equipped with the latest intelligence-gathering and surveillance equipment".[24] Vasily Mishin ("The Moon Programme That Faltered."), in Spaceflight. 33 (March 1991): 2-3 describes how the Soviet Moon programme lost energy after the Apollo landing.
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Eish, the US must have paid those commies lots of cash to keep them quiet all these years :rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings
 
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porchrat said:
Wow. I can't believe it. We actually have a moon landing conspiracy theorist here. Best of all he thinks human beings need to be up there for some reason and sending robots is somehow bad. Ironically it doesn't surprise me that he thinks the robots aren't better suited to this sort of thing than humans are. I mean... he thinks we can't send humans to the moon today and uses this as reasoning for why we didn't go there back in the day so he is clearly not all there. It isn't a big leap from that to believing humans are better off being up there than robots I suppose.

I take it you'd prefer it if computers didn't handle your bank calculations either carstensdj? You'd rather we went back to the days where humans did it? After all they're better at everything right?

What a muppet. Robots are better than humans at pretty much everything but creative thinking. A mission to the moon to collect data does not require creativity. It requires a monotonous recording of observations in terribly inhospitable conditions. Something robots are ideal for. Give the robot some sensors and send it up there. It will outperform the human every fscking time.
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Do me a favour and go re-read my comments u big mouth.. (cant finish my sentence for obvious reasons). You sound like one of these guys who waits for a thread to get busy and then jumps on what every one else says to make yourself sound intelligent. What u claim i said, and what i said are two different things...
 
beans100 said:
So the reflectors could only have been left by humans? If it were me, trying to hide something, I would've send reflectors over with rockets and robots and plant it there. Much easier.
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Wow I didnt know we had the tech to build small and light robots in the 60's and lost it, not to even speak about the computer power they must have used.
 
maybe it was cheaper and easier to make a movie in 1969 then to send someone to the moon.
 
Going back to the moon, maybe they will actually land this time. This proves they never landed on the moon without a doubt.
 
I'm not a conspiricay theorist, I'm just keeping an open mind. It could've gone either way.... Anyway, who's to say they didn't send up that stuff after the 60's or that lasers can bounce back from particals in the atmosphere or something. It could be or could not be.
 
beans100 said:
I'm not a conspiricay theorist, I'm just keeping an open mind. It could've gone either way.... Anyway, who's to say they didn't send up that stuff after the 60's
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The laser reflectors were in use since 1973... Plus, you are telling me the ENTIRE soviet space program just went along with the BS from the USA on their alleged fake moon landing? Really?? You really think the USSR wouldnt have shouted from the mountain tops about how the US faked the whole thing????

or that lasers can bounce back from particals in the atmosphere or something. It could be or could not be.
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Um ya... physics would disagree with you on that one. Thats pretty solid proof. Lasers dont bounce off of dirt/rocks very well
 
porchrat said:
The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me. I think it is because I like to live thinking that most human beings are rational. I don't like thinking of the armies of idiots out there that don't vaccinate their children because they don't want them becoming autistic.

I have actually never met a moon landing conspiracy theorist before and I don't scour the Internet looking for their ramblings. So yea considering this is the first time I've seen one in action I'm pretty flabbergasted.

Heck before coming to this forum I didn't realise there were idiots out there that believed in a literal 6 day biblical creation either. I'm saddened every time I encounter people believing in stupid schit.
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Your number 1 priority at the moment should be to come out from under that rock you are living, and acknowledge and fight against your naivety.
 
Anybody out there who wants to buy me a ticket on the next manned mission/flight to the moon. I would like to check out this stuff, get some hard evidence. hehe
 
beans100 said:
Anybody out there who wants to buy me a ticket on the next manned mission/flight to the moon. I would like to check out this stuff, get some hard evidence. hehe
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Yeah, dunno if they'll be sending monkeys into space again soon... :p
 
h0ll0w said:
Your number 1 priority at the moment should be to come out from under that rock you are living, and acknowledge and fight against your naivety.
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I think it more of a defense mechanism than anything else. I would be very depressed and have no faith in the future of humanity as a species if I kept thinking about the huge number of turnip-heads running around day in and day out thinking aliens built the pyramids.
 
beans100 said:
I'm not a conspiricay theorist, I'm just keeping an open mind. It could've gone either way.... Anyway, who's to say they didn't send up that stuff after the 60's or that lasers can bounce back from particals in the atmosphere or something. It could be or could not be.
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Are we being punked?

Robots? Lasers bouncing off the atmosphere... I suppose the telescopes that could see the equipment up there (you know we had telescopes back then too right?) were fooled by a giant photo stuck over the lens?

I don't get it. Why do conspiracy theorists go so far to such ridiculous lengths to cling to their theories.
 
porchrat said:
I think it more of a defense mechanism than anything else. I would be very depressed and have no faith in the future of humanity as a species if I kept thinking about the huge number of turnip-heads running around day in and day out thinking aliens built the pyramids.
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Love how you have so much to say about ANYONE who's thoughts differ from your own. As if you're the perfect model of what a human should be! Do you always believe EVERYTHING you hear, or just when ur trying to be arrogant?
 
carstensdj said:
Love how you have so much to say about ANYONE who's thoughts differ from your own. As if you're the perfect model of what a human should be! Do you always believe EVERYTHING you hear, or just when ur trying to be arrogant?
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Now you're just being a turnip-head...
 
carstensdj said:
Do me a favour and go re-read my comments u big mouth.. (cant finish my sentence for obvious reasons). You sound like one of these guys who waits for a thread to get busy and then jumps on what every one else says to make yourself sound intelligent. What u claim i said, and what i said are two different things...
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When you claim you didn't say something you might want to go back and edit your posts to remove the examples of you saying those things:
carstensdj said:
My other argument is that we know NOTHING about the moon, so if we can "send man to the moon", why the hell are they sending robots??? To truly gauge whats happening, we need to send PEOPLE there, but they're sending robots because we CANT actually send man there. There is no logical explanation as to why it could be done in the 60's, when home PC's were not even around, but now with all that we have, we cant do it?!?!?
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Here in one single quote (I'm not even going to bother to look up where you repeated these erroneous concepts later in the thread) you say what I said you said: "human beings need to be up there for some reason and sending robots is somehow bad." and that "he thinks we can't send humans to the moon today and uses this as reasoning for why we didn't go there back in the day".
 
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porchrat said:
I think it more of a defense mechanism than anything else. I would be very depressed and have no faith in the future of humanity as a species if I kept thinking about the huge number of turnip-heads running around day in and day out thinking aliens built the pyramids.
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Aliens did build the pyramids. We know this because we found plans in the UFO that crashed in Roswell. They also found the information on how to fake the moon landing in the craft, not to even mention that the microwave in your kitchen was build using alien tech.

But all is not lost, next year on 21st December everyone will know the truth when the big ass mother ship (As big as a planet) will come do a flyby to get some more gold. The Aliens use the gold in their atmosphere. And dont worry about them killing us all, they need their genetically modified apes, as cheap labour.
 
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