Need advice before buying hardware

[ViciousClone]

Hi all,oky so i want to upgrade my system next week..

But this meant it will only be Mboard and CPU only,

i Have a core2quade 2.5GHZ ,6GB DDR3(cheap value ram) ,HD7850 radeon,i play Bf3 and bf4.so it does at least do a good job..

Though my HD is crap,slow as hell..So now im thinking what about rather getting a SSHD or SSD and ram?

What would you guys rather upgrade 1st?

Thanks guys

 

[Calvin22580]

Hi all,oky so i want to upgrade my system next week..

But this meant it will only be Mboard and CPU only,

i Have a core2quade 2.5GHZ ,6GB DDR3(cheap value ram) ,HD7850 radeon,i play Bf3 and bf4.so it does at least do a good job..

Though my HD is crap,slow as hell..So now im thinking what about rather getting a SSHD or SSD and ram?

What would you guys rather upgrade 1st?

Thanks guys

Just bought a 120GB Seagate SSD for my 6 year old Core 2 Duo system and it's running like a beast now!

Definitely go for a SSD and RAM. A quad core is fast enough. Your hard drive is the slowest part in your system.

 

[AfricanTech]

Just bought a 120GB Seagate SSD for my 6 year old Core 2 Duo system and it's running like a beast now!

Definitely go for a SSD and RAM. A quad core is fast enough. Your hard drive is the slowest part in your system.

Agree.

Recently upgraded mobo, ram, CPU and I can feel how the hard drive is bottle necking my system

 

[Chevron]

6GBs of RAM is enough.

Rather get something like:

http://www.wootware.co.za/computer-...50-evo-series-250gb-2-5-tlc-sata-iii-ssd.html

 

[ViciousClone]

Hmmm true,i've done some checking on ssd and a sshd ,to be fair the sshd seems like a bettet buy atm than ssd,they are still way expensive

 

[NomNom]

Getting a SSD or SSHD will ONLY decrease load times and will NOT improve performance (FPS), your CPU is bottle necking your GPU.

I would invest in a full system upgrade, which in you case would mean upgrading the CPU and motherboard. This will improve your performance in Battlefield.

If load times is what you want to improve then go for the SSD or SSHD first.

 

[ViciousClone]

Getting a SSD or SSHD will ONLY decrease load times and will NOT improve performance (FPS), your CPU is bottle necking your GPU.

I would invest in a full system upgrade, which in you case would mean upgrading the CPU and motherboard. This will improve your performance in Battlefield.

If load times is what you want to improve then go for the SSD or SSHD first.

Why do you say the cpu is bottlenecking?how do i confirm this..or why do you think so?

 

[NomNom]

Why do you say the cpu is bottlenecking?how do i confirm this..or why do you think so?

Because it's a old generation system, the new i processors are faster and more efficient, I have come to notice that Battlefield 3 and 4 are very CPU intensive, so getting a quad core i5 is highly recommended.

My i5 760 2.8GHz struggles quite a lot and this new PC I am currently using has a i3-2120 3.30GHz and it struggles much more than my i5 760 did.

What I'm saying is you need a nice strong i5 3rd or 4th generation preferably to get nice decent performance while playing Battlefield.

What FPS do you currently get and at what quality?

At the end of the day it's what you want to get, faster loading times, or better performance.


There are 2 things you need to know if you decide on getting a SSD.

1. NEVER EVER DEFRAGMENT THE SSD.

2. Make sure AHCI is selected in your BIOS under SATA controller mode.

 

[ViciousClone]

Oky open more options for me,i5 to replace my core 2 quaf,but which amd will succeed as well?

 

[goofball]

Getting a SSD or SSHD will ONLY decrease load times and will NOT improve performance (FPS), your CPU is bottle necking your GPU.

I would invest in a full system upgrade, which in you case would mean upgrading the CPU and motherboard. This will improve your performance in Battlefield.

If load times is what you want to improve then go for the SSD or SSHD first.

Best advice right here.

Upgrade the CPU and Mobo to newer tech.
Maybe even check out Carbonite for a nice second hand deal.

The SSD will only help with the load times. I have one and they are nice but I also have a nice CPU and mobo so can afford to go for something like a ssd.

I think even the CPU's before the Haswell ones will be a nice upgrade for you.

Go for a i5. Best value for money.

 

[Wasabee!]

Because it's a old generation system, the new i processors are faster and more efficient, I have come to notice that Battlefield 3 and 4 are very CPU intensive, so getting a quad core i5 is highly recommended.

My i5 760 2.8GHz struggles quite a lot and this new PC I am currently using has a i3-2120 3.30GHz and it struggles much more than my i5 760 did.

What I'm saying is you need a nice strong i5 3rd or 4th generation preferably to get nice decent performance while playing Battlefield.

What FPS do you currently get and at what quality?

At the end of the day it's what you want to get, faster loading times, or better performance.


There are 2 things you need to know if you decide on getting a SSD.

1. NEVER EVER DEFRAGMENT THE SSD.

2. Make sure AHCI is selected in your BIOS under SATA controller mode.

I agree with Noms. For gaming i5 all the way if you can afford it. DDR3 1333 is fine if you are on a budget, so don't worry upgrading your RAM yet if you don't need to.

http://wccftech.com/intel-sandy-bridge-ivy-bridge-haswell-graphics-compared-10-difference-average/

Even second gen i5 is sufficient for gaming. Check Carbonite as mentioned for good deals on Sandy/Ivybridge combos as they offer excellent value.

Best advice right here.

Upgrade the CPU and Mobo to newer tech.
Maybe even check out Carbonite for a nice second hand deal.

The SSD will only help with the load times. I have one and they are nice but I also have a nice CPU and mobo so can afford to go for something like a ssd.

I think even the CPU's before the Haswell ones will be a nice upgrade for you.

Go for a i5. Best value for money.

I would also go CPU + Mobo combo first as your system is a bit outdated for modern games. Then your system would let you be able to utilise the SSD to it's full capacity once you get it as Sandy/Ivy/Haswell have very good onboard SATA controllers (also support native SATAIII 6Gb/s).

 

[sajunky]

I would say go with SSD to see if it helps. If you find you need mobo/CPU, money you spent on SSD is not wasted.

 

[ViciousClone]

So i guess a intel core i5 4430 would be good? Kinda on a budget

 

[NomNom]

So i guess a intel core i5 4430 would be good? Kinda on a budget

Yes, I can't really recommend you a motherboard as it's up to you what features you want, just make sure the motherboard you decide on is for Socket 1150.

The cheapest one you can get though is this one: http://www.rebeltech.co.za/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=19&products_id=11341


NAG Wesley recommends this one for a R6500 budget build: http://www.rebeltech.co.za/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=19&products_id=10102

http://www.nag.co.za/2013/12/10/system-builders-guide-december-r4500-r9000/

 

[ViciousClone]

Yes, I can't really recommend you a motherboard as it's up to you what features you want, just make sure the motherboard you decide on is for Socket 1150.

The cheapest one you can get though is this one: http://www.rebeltech.co.za/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=19&products_id=11341


NAG Wesley recommends this one for a R6500 budget build: http://www.rebeltech.co.za/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=19&products_id=10102

http://www.nag.co.za/2013/12/10/system-builders-guide-december-r4500-r9000/

Thanks ,i guess any cheapy would work for now,seeing that im coming from a socket 775 ..

 

[goofball]

Thanks ,i guess any cheapy would work for now,seeing that im coming from a socket 775 ..

Yeah that will work. I wouldnt worry too much on the mobo tbh. The cpu is more important for me.

Keep an eye on this thread too:

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...ials-atm-Looking-for-entry-level-box-gfx-card

I don't know AMD parts but apparently if you don't have much money to spend they are good value for money. Maybe somebody else can advise on this.

 

[ViciousClone]

i'm opening my options a bit, which amd cpu would be the intel core 2 quad's replacement ?

 

[gregmcc]

I would say go with SSD to see if it helps. If you find you need mobo/CPU, money you spent on SSD is not wasted.

I just got a 120gb ssd and put BF4 on it. Load times went from 2-3 mins, down to 20secs!

 

[goofball]

I just got a 120gb ssd and put BF4 on it. Load times went from 2-3 mins, down to 20secs!

Very true. But only the load times. Not worth it for you. With what you have you have to upgrade first.

 

[ViciousClone]

any AMD people out there to assist? i need more option ,i know a core i5 is a worthy upgrade from my core 2 quad,but which amd processor would be the worthy upgrade?