Need help deciding components for mid/high range pc

[Computer_Freak]

"Gaming RAM" isnt meant to be heaps faster, its supposed to be made for OCing, hence the heat spreaders. Normal RAM doesnt need heatspreaders as it doesnt get too hot at normal speeds. A proper set of OCing RAM will go way further than a set of normal RAM and you will be able to tighten the timings even further on it than on the normal stuff.
If you are into quantity and not quality and not looking to OC then stick to the normal stuff.

well if price is no prob gaming ram is good

And thats what i meant, if you gonna OC, its better to have it... fine the price doesnt justify it, but depends what quality you need.

 

[dude#73]

there is a difference between the gaming RAM and normal Ram...

First off where you will see the biggest difference with RAMs, is with their speed (800mhz etc)

then the thing with gaming ram is that it OC better, and has lower timing, eg find the info quicker and more efficiently)

But normal Ram is ok, im using 2Gb DDR2 800 CL6 (i wanted CL5 but i got hussled), OCed to 942Mhz, and the differrence from my old DDR2 533 at CL4 was huge, benchmark score increased ALOT, and access times were better...

"Gaming RAM" isnt meant to be heaps faster, its supposed to be made for OCing, hence the heat spreaders. Normal RAM doesnt need heatspreaders as it doesnt get too hot at normal speeds. A proper set of OCing RAM will go way further than a set of normal RAM and you will be able to tighten the timings even further on it than on the normal stuff.
If you are into quantity and not quality and not looking to OC then stick to the normal stuff.

No,I dont intend overclocking,its simply just for my pc since vista doesnt play well with my current 1gb A-data ddr2 667.

1)size (1meg;2 meg)
3)DDR speed (400;533;677;800 etc)
4)CL

From the above mentioned 3 qualities in which order should one go about buying ram?The way I see it,peope usually go for: first size then ddr speed then.CL this the correct way to go about buying ram?
(CL is latency right?)

 

[Glordit]

No,I dont intend overclocking,its simply just for my pc since vista doesnt play well with my current 1gb A-data ddr2 667.

1)size (1meg;2 meg)
3)DDR speed (400;533;677;800 etc)
4)CL

From the above mentioned 3 qualities in which order should one go about buying ram?The way I see it,peope usually go for: first size then ddr speed then.CL this the correct way to go about buying ram?
(CL is latency right?)

Vista realy needs 2GB's or more ram... thats why I am sticking with XP

Okay, if you not going to OC then just get 1 x 2GB DDR-800 or 2 x 1GB DDR2-800 chips of ram I say 2GB's, because...

1] It's Dirt cheap!
2] Everything runs faster with 2Gb's


As for Particular brands, I see no difference Transcend, Kingson, Patriot... all the same

 

[ShockG]

Normal ram FTW!
Overclocking ram is expensive and doesn't offer a real performance benefit other than in tests. If that's all you do with your PC all day great. If not then don't even bother.

 

[dude#73]

Vista realy needs 2GB's or more ram... thats why I am sticking with XP

Okay, if you not going to OC then just get 1 x 2GB DDR-800 or 2 x 1GB DDR2-800 chips of ram I say 2GB's, because...

1] It's Dirt cheap!
2] Everything runs faster with 2Gb's


As for Particular brands, I see no difference Transcend, Kingson, Patriot... all the same

Yeah well..I was thinking is 4 gb overkill? this is what i was looking at:
1)Patriot Signature Line Memory-DDR2-800MHz-4GB Kit (2x2GB)
(R 1,021)

2)Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5 G-XMS2,with heatsink,2x2Gb/2048mb kit, ddr2-800( pc2-6400 ),CL5,1.8v-240pin-Lifetime Warranty
(R 1,129)

3)Patriot EP Series DDR2 800 4Gb (2 x 2Gb) PC2-6400 Low Latency Kit:
CL 4-4-4-12; 2.2v
(R 1,276)

4)Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX-XMS2,with DHX technology,Low-latency ,2x2Gb/2048mb kit,ddr2-800(pc2-6400),CL4,2.1v-240pin-lifetime warranty
(R 1,458)

5)Patriot EP Viper Series DDR2 800 4Gb (2 x 2Gb) PC2-6400 EL Kit :
CL 5-5-5-15; 2.3v
(R 1,531)

I dont know jack,to me,I look at this and say ''oh well,its 4 gigs ram!''
some of them dont state timings,does somebody have any of the forementioned ram?Which is best?

 

[cyberarmy]

Why are you looking at the expensive sticks? Just under R800 you can get 2*2G DDRII 800 sticks from PC International.

 

[Glordit]

Why are you looking at the expensive sticks? Just under R800 you can get 2*2G DDRII 800 sticks from PC International.

Just get any ol' DDR2-800 I paid R500 for a 2GB module
Take a look at this

2 of these
or
Get 2 of these
or
One of these
or...
Even this!

Heck! R195 for 1GB thats about... R780 for 4GB's!!

 

[cyberarmy]

Just get any ol' DDR2-800 I paid R500 for a 2GB module
Take a look at this

2 of these
or
Get 2 of these
or
One of these

See, he's quoting the prices for 2*2G DDRII 800 memory, and he doesn't want to OC so the cheaper the better.

 

[Glordit]

See, he's quoting the prices for 2*2G DDRII 800 memory, and he doesn't want to OC so the cheaper the better.

Ah! 4GB's then my bad! still I think 2Gb's is enough but it just soo cheap these days!

Too bad my copy of XP only allows up to 3.5Gb's got 3 more slots for RAM left and they all lonely

 

[dude#73]

Ah! 4GB's then my bad! still I think 2Gb's is enough but it just soo cheap these days!

Too bad my copy of XP only allows up to 3.5Gb's got 3 more slots for RAM left and they all lonely

I have an asus p5b mobo,how much ram can that support max?is 2*2gb's better or 4* 1gb's
?

 

[Glordit]

I have an asus p5b mobo,how much ram can that support max?is 2*2gb's better or 4* 1gb's
?

I think the Asus P5B should support 2 x 2GB but I think unless you get 64bit Vista it will only see 3/3.5GB's *not too sure on my facts as I don't have Vista*

 

[The_Techie]

It doesn't really matter which operating system you have installed, if it's a 32-bit operating system then it'll only be able to address about 3.25GB of RAM. Have a look in the FAQ for a detailed explanation why

 

[dude#73]

It doesn't really matter which operating system you have installed, if it's a 32-bit operating system then it'll only be able to address about 3.25GB of RAM. Have a look in the FAQ for a detailed explanation why

Thanks,so then should i rather buy 2*1 gb ddr2 800 (With my current 2*512 mb ddr2 667,that will make 3 gigs taking up all four slots)

BTW,if i mix DDR 667 with DDR 800,the ddr 800 will only be as fast as the ddr 667 right?

 

[The_Techie]

Thanks,so then should i rather buy 2*1 gb ddr2 800 (With my current 2*512 mb ddr2 667,that will make 3 gigs taking up all four slots)

BTW,if i mix DDR 667 with DDR 800,the ddr 800 will only be as fast as the ddr 667 right?

Yes, DDR2-800 will run at DDR2-667 speed in that case

 

[dude#73]

so do you suggest i sell my 1gig 667 and buy frsh 3*1gig ddr 800
or shuld i just get another 2*1 gigs of ddr 667

 

[The_Techie]

so do you suggest i sell my 1gig 667 and buy frsh 3*1gig ddr 800
or shuld i just get another 2*1 gigs of ddr 667

I'd probably suggest that you use 2 * 1GB of DDR2-800 and 2 * 512MB of DDR2-800. That way your RAM will run in dual channel.

But the performance difference between DDR2-667 and DDR2-800 is not that pronounced in my experience.

 

[dude#73]

will decide,anyhowthat puts ram aside,what is the best case if i am not going to watercool?antec p900?raidmax smilodon?gigabyte 3d mars?what cost less than R2000.00

 

[The_Techie]

will decide,anyhowthat puts ram aside,what is the best case if i am not going to watercool?antec p900?raidmax smilodon?gigabyte 3d mars?what cost less than R2000.00

You'll have to ask one of the other forumites about that, I'm still using a cheapie handle case so my knowledge regarding cases is somewhat...lacking

 

[Glordit]

will decide,anyhowthat puts ram aside,what is the best case if i am not going to watercool?antec p900?raidmax smilodon?gigabyte 3d mars?what cost less than R2000.00

IMO I would get a cheap case and get a nice GPU
Otherwise beging a Gigabyte fan I would say the 3D Mars

 

[cyberarmy]

What ever looks big, good air flow design, tool-less installation and incorporates cable management.