Negative FNB adverts were scripted, reports The New Age

kingrob said:
Agreed.

The Guptas most probably thought she would shut up if they donated money to the DA party.

They must have been perplexed that the DA didn't play nice, as it's so easy to bribe the anc members and prez.
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You make it sound as if shes the angel here,where does it say it wasn't easy to "bribe" her......they gave her money and she probably bent things their way a couple times in return but albeit in a very secretive way.

Ultimately she was not the one that came out with the story in the open so she was covering it up,I'm not saying she is guilty since I have no proof so that would be wrong to accuse her but it would be naive to make her the hero here.

The Weekend Argus on Sunday reported that, according to sources, Zille had gone to the Gupta’s compound in Saxonwold, Joburg, in 2011 to personally ask for a donation and had emerged with a “substantial” cheque.
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BGE said:
The fact is Helen Zille lied, plainly and blatantly lied... she knew all to well who was sponsoring the events... in the video in the link below she even thanks Telkom as sponsor, while addressing a New Age breakfast!

http://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2013/01/23/anc-demands-zille-apologise-for-lying-about-new-age-breakfast
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Utter Rubbish... She has already answered that in her statement....
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...ank-the-New-Age-and-the-Guptas-by-Helen-Zille
 
falcon786 said:
You make it sound as if shes the angel here,where does it say it wasn't easy to "bribe" her......they gave her money and she probably bent things their way a couple times in return but albeit in a very secretive way.

Ultimately she was not the one that came out with the story in the open so she was covering it up,I'm not saying she is guilty since I have no proof so that would be wrong to accuse her but it would be naive to make her the hero here.
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Covering it up? From what I understand parties generally do not divulge who their donors are. This would probably also be frowned upon if it is against the donors wishes. You also right that you have no proof, so how do you come to the conclusion that she probably did a few corrupt things to favour them?
 
I have to hand it to the Guptas and the ANC: they have successfully managed to completely divert attention from the real issues to other fickle matters.
 
I have a question about the New Age. I see my local Telkom branch at N1 City have a lovely New Age stand now where you can pick up your free copy of the New Age. Strange indeed if you ask me.
 
keenest said:
I have a question about the New Age. I see my local Telkom branch at N1 City have a lovely New Age stand now where you can pick up your free copy of the New Age. Strange indeed if you ask me.
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How many copies are still lying there?
 
They had plenty of copies still in the stand from what I could see.
 
falcon786 said:
You make it sound as if shes the angel here,where does it say it wasn't easy to "bribe" her......they gave her money and she probably bent things their way a couple times in return but albeit in a very secretive way.

Ultimately she was not the one that came out with the story in the open so she was covering it up,I'm not saying she is guilty since I have no proof so that would be wrong to accuse her but it would be naive to make her the hero here.
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She is. ;)
 
mcastudios said:
Covering it up? From what I understand parties generally do not divulge who their donors are. This would probably also be frowned upon if it is against the donors wishes. You also right that you have no proof, so how do you come to the conclusion that she probably did a few corrupt things to favour them?
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Because she is a politician,its their job to appear all honest and for the people but the reality is I don't trust the bunch of them be they ANC or DA or some other party.

Bunch of hypocritical liars.They all want their fingers in the pie and take a bite when they know they wont get caught,some are stupid and take big bites in the open like malema and get caught but you can be sure they all take little bites.
 
falcon786 said:
Because she is a politician,its their job to appear all honest and for the people but the reality is I don't trust the bunch of them be they ANC or DA or some other party.

Bunch of hypocritical liars.They all want their fingers in the pie and take a bite when they know they wont get caught,some are stupid and take big bites in the open like malema and get caught but you can be sure they all take little bites.
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Wow, some hectic generalizations going on there. If you're gonna accuse any specific person of any wrong-doing, you're gonna have to supply some proof to back up your claim.

Generalizations like "all politicians are liars" and "all politicians have their fingers in the pie" do not constitute proof.
 
Sodan said:
Wow, some hectic generalizations going on there. If you're gonna accuse any specific person of any wrong-doing, you're gonna have to supply some proof to back up your claim.

Generalizations like "all politicians are liars" and "all politicians have their fingers in the pie" do not constitute proof.
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To be honest i couldn't care less,but don't fool yourself that any politician is completely honest,its their JOB to seem that way.Some are very good at doing it.

I'm not accusing anyone in particular of anything in particular but I'm just saying I wouldn't be so quick to call a politician a Saviour of the people.Politics is one sneaky business,try to win over popular opinion by making your opponent seem dishonest yet keeping your reputation clean.

Helen is definitely good at it.:)Whether you vote for her or the ANC i couldn't care less,the only reason I may vote for the DA however is to keep em all on their toes by having a strong opposition.Thats how you manage politicians.Right now the ANC is too comfortable at the top and thats why they keep on raping us.
 
duderoo said:
On the New Age website "Our goal is to focus on the positive side of news, and we aim for constructive criticism of our leaders in our newspaper"
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Contructive criticism is a term used by communists regimes in Russia and Eastern Block. There was no place for true criticism of their leaders, hence such new-speach terms were utilised.
 
kingrob said:
The Guptas most probably thought she would shut up if they donated money to the DA party.

They must have been perplexed that the DA didn't play nice, as it's so easy to bribe the anc members and prez.
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The story from the DA's side.
 
falcon786 said:
To be honest i couldn't care less,but don't fool yourself that any politician is completely honest,its their JOB to seem that way.Some are very good at doing it.

I assume you are staying with your parents, with no care in the world.

No care about
Sky high electricity bills.
Sky high rates and taxes with no benefit to you except to the ANC mafioso ( The bus service in Pretoria is good as non existent )
Sky high school fees.
Sky high medical aid with little benefit
Food security in this country
Cafeteria style education

etc. etc. etc.

So what do care about ? do you vote ?
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falcon786 said:
To be honest i couldn't care less,but don't fool yourself that any politician is completely honest,its their JOB to seem that way.Some are very good at doing it.

I'm not accusing anyone in particular of anything in particular but I'm just saying I wouldn't be so quick to call a politician a Saviour of the people.Politics is one sneaky business,try to win over popular opinion by making your opponent seem dishonest yet keeping your reputation clean.

Helen is definitely good at it.:)Whether you vote for her or the ANC i couldn't care less,the only reason I may vote for the DA however is to keep em all on their toes by having a strong opposition.Thats how you manage politicians.Right now the ANC is too comfortable at the top and thats why they keep on raping us.
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This applies to you as well:

obs said:
I assume you are staying with your parents, with no care in the world.

No care about
Sky high electricity bills.
Sky high rates and taxes with no benefit to you except to the ANC mafioso ( The bus service in Pretoria is good as non existent )
Sky high school fees.
Sky high medical aid with little benefit
Food security in this country
Cafeteria style education

etc. etc. etc.

So what do care about ? do you vote ?
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obs said:
falcon786 said:
To be honest i couldn't care less,but don't fool yourself that any politician is completely honest,its their JOB to seem that way.Some are very good at doing it.
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I assume you are staying with your parents, with no care in the world.

No care about
Sky high electricity bills.
Sky high rates and taxes with no benefit to you except to the ANC mafioso ( The bus service in Pretoria is good as non existent )
Sky high school fees.
Sky high medical aid with little benefit
Food security in this country
Cafeteria style education

etc. etc. etc.

So what do care about ? do you vote ?
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You assume wrong,but I guess thats because you only chose to understand what you quoted and neglected the rest of my post.

In fact you even took what you quoted out of context,I meant I don't care about one particular political party,as long as things get done right I'll be a happy chappy but unfortunately they are not hence why I have to protest against e-tolling come feb with cosatu and hence why I clearly said I vote DA not because I particularly like them but rather just to keep the ANC a bit more honest(they'll never be totally honest but at least the threat of loosing votes may just encourage them to do that little bit instead of nothing)

Are you a DA supporter? because you seem to be marketing that the DA is going to come in and magically sort out all your problems that you listed,seems the DA marketing worked very well on you;)
 
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