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medicnick83

medicnick83

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Morning all,

So! I've been toying with the idea of getting a new 2nd hand car - and this time, I want to get what I want.
Believe it or not, it's the Toyota Corolla Quest - I've always loved the look of that car.

Now I have some questions;

I have a VW Polo Sedan 1.6 2012 with 114k on the clock - car is 100% original so that means, I haven't changed the engine at all, it's was never dropped etc and I got the car originally with 20k± on the clock so that works out to minimal yearly driving from my part

1. Bootlid needs a respray
2. Very few minor scratches here and there.
3. Grill I had resprayed red (like, the GTI outline) mainly to stand out from all the other Polo's that are around me.
4. Spotlights have a yellow film over them (they are aftermarket)
5. I have a full set of GTI mags on and the spare is also there, so 5 original GTI mags.
6. FSH, nothing missed.

I am told by everyone that I know or at least most of them that I should easily be able to resell my car for R90k± Maybe even leaning towards R100k because its clearly looked after etc.

I'm seeing so many cars that are older and with way more mileage being sold for like R160k± etc.

It's like "mileage" doesn't matter anymore.

BUT they are also saying in the same breath - it's the worst time to buy a new car currently... Can someone explain to me why?

I've been dealing with 1 person, a friend of mine whom I trust but his dealership will only give me R80k for the car, they say there is about R8k worth of work to be done before it can be resold.

Anyways...

Like I said - I want the TCQ and really trying HARD to try get the repayments as close to R3k as possible but it seems that the goal posts for this deal keep moving which is making me think I need to look at maybe getting a older model, like a 2018/2019/2020 model but all those models have high mileage (100k+) which is not what I want but I'm seeing people saying mileage means nothing in Toyotas anymore.

Guide me please with great wisdom.

Interested car: https://www.markettoyotaculemborg.c...438_SYS_CFAO_Autobid_Lead_Inline__PCM_PCP_SVV
 
I think you and I have a very different definition to 100% original and I do think the alterations made will have a negative impact on your resale value. The scratches, meh, most all second hand cars will have these but the other things won't help I don't think.
Also, why the need for the boot respray?

In terms of the car you want - I always say don't listen to us random people on the internet, go with what you want and what you can afford. I would say mileage is an indicator but not the only one so if the car has the same specs and looks but is slightly older and cheaper then go for it.
Is it the right time? Well interest rates will still go up and fuel costs what it costs so that might be why they're saying that but in reality, it's always the right time if you need/ want a new car. Else I don't know when the right time is.
 
Sepeng said:
I think you and I have a very different definition to 100% original and I do think the alterations made will have a negative impact on your resale value. The scratches, meh, most all second hand cars will have these but the other things won't help I don't think.
Also, why the need for the boot respray?

In terms of the car you want - I always say don't listen to us random people on the internet, go with what you want and what you can afford. I would say mileage is an indicator but not the only one so if the car has the same specs and looks but is slightly older and cheaper then go for it.
Is it the right time? Well interest rates will still go up and fuel costs what it costs so that might be why they're saying that but in reality, it's always the right time if you need/ want a new car. Else I don't know when the right time is.
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For whatever reason, I was told it needs to be done and will cost ALOT of money - I told him to not talk crap to me because I can have it done for under R1k and it will be done properly.

I know the whole vibe of selling and trying to get the price down so they can make more profit blah blah blah - but this is also why I was told to sell privately - the effort there is just too much for me and I don't have alot of time on my hands to muddle with that too.
 
Give webuycars and mccarthy a try as well. WBC tried to screw us when we sold our ecosport, but gave me a fair price on a golf a few years back. Mccarthy gave us a great price on our ecosport though, even though I saw the car still advetised on their website like 5 months after the sale :)
 
GhostSixFour said:
Give webuycars and mccarthy a try as well. WBC tried to screw us when we sold our ecosport, but gave me a fair price on a golf a few years back. Mccarthy gave us a great price on our ecosport though, even though I saw the car still advetised on their website like 5 months after the sale :)
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With regards to the WBC comment; how (if I may ask) did they try screw you over?
 
And generally, what are the most important questions when looking at a 'new' used car to know the answers too?
 
Sepeng said:
I think you and I have a very different definition to 100% original and I do think the alterations made will have a negative impact on your resale value. The scratches, meh, most all second hand cars will have these but the other things won't help I don't think.
Also, why the need for the boot respray?

In terms of the car you want - I always say don't listen to us random people on the internet, go with what you want and what you can afford. I would say mileage is an indicator but not the only one so if the car has the same specs and looks but is slightly older and cheaper then go for it.
Is it the right time? Well interest rates will still go up and fuel costs what it costs so that might be why they're saying that but in reality, it's always the right time if you need/ want a new car. Else I don't know when the right time is.
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Unless of course what you want is a Ford, then it would be very scandalous if we allowed that to happen, we would have failed in our duties as respectable elders of the forum.
 
medicnick83 said:
Morning all,

So! I've been toying with the idea of getting a new 2nd hand car - and this time, I want to get what I want.
Believe it or not, it's the Toyota Corolla Quest - I've always loved the look of that car.

Now I have some questions;

I have a VW Polo Sedan 1.6 2012 with 114k on the clock - car is 100% original so that means, I haven't changed the engine at all, it's was never dropped etc and I got the car originally with 20k± on the clock so that works out to minimal yearly driving from my part

1. Bootlid needs a respray
2. Very few minor scratches here and there.
3. Grill I had resprayed red (like, the GTI outline) mainly to stand out from all the other Polo's that are around me.
4. Spotlights have a yellow film over them (they are aftermarket)
5. I have a full set of GTI mags on and the spare is also there, so 5 original GTI mags.
6. FSH, nothing missed.

I am told by everyone that I know or at least most of them that I should easily be able to resell my car for R90k± Maybe even leaning towards R100k because its clearly looked after etc.

I'm seeing so many cars that are older and with way more mileage being sold for like R160k± etc.

It's like "mileage" doesn't matter anymore.

BUT they are also saying in the same breath - it's the worst time to buy a new car currently... Can someone explain to me why?

I've been dealing with 1 person, a friend of mine whom I trust but his dealership will only give me R80k for the car, they say there is about R8k worth of work to be done before it can be resold.

Anyways...

Like I said - I want the TCQ and really trying HARD to try get the repayments as close to R3k as possible but it seems that the goal posts for this deal keep moving which is making me think I need to look at maybe getting a older model, like a 2018/2019/2020 model but all those models have high mileage (100k+) which is not what I want but I'm seeing people saying mileage means nothing in Toyotas anymore.

Guide me please with great wisdom.

Interested car: https://www.markettoyotaculemborg.c...438_SYS_CFAO_Autobid_Lead_Inline__PCM_PCP_SVV
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5 years ago I bought my BMW 320d F30 2012 for R186k. Go see what the prices going for now:

Here's the first one I could find with similar mileage, year and spec.
www.cars.co.za

2012 BMW 3 Series 320d Sport Auto

Used BMW 3 Series 320d Sport Auto for sale in Gauteng, car manufactured in 2012 (ID:8294507)
www.cars.co.za www.cars.co.za
 
Willie Trombone said:
Definitely warranty of sorts. That's often the point of going 'new'.
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Care should be taken with aftermarket warranties some are just something to make you feel good but you later find out when you need them that it's not what it looks like.

If it was me buying a Toyota from a Toyota dealer I wouldn't bother, save the money.
 
Definitely try We Buy Cars. Also got a good deal on a VW with them. Quick and painless process.
 
Willie Trombone said:
You wouldn't bother checking if it was under warranty?
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What I said was based on the assumption that it's out of warranty, of course it would be nice if it's still under warranty, if not then I am not going to bother with an aftermarket one, unless it's free or included in the price somehow.
 
Mileage really doesn't mean much on a good Japanese car not just the Toyota. What matters is under what conditions did it get to that mileage, you don't want a Toyota that has no service history so there should be something to go with the mileage.
 
My 2 cents: I love my Corolla. And yes, 100 000km in a toyota is still brand new. I always say, once they reach 400 000km, then they are properly worn in and can be driven to 600 000km without hassles. Look for a FSH, and I would buy from Automark.
 
TheChamp said:
Care should be taken with aftermarket warranties some are just something to make you feel good but you later find out when you need them that it's not what it looks like.

If it was me buying a Toyota from a Toyota dealer I wouldn't bother, save the money.
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We took a dealer warranty with my wife's up when we bought it, total waste of money as we never claimed for anything. This car is still chugging along with zero issues and the mileage is racking up.

Sometimes the warranty is just there so you can sleep better at night.
 
Craig_ said:
We took a dealer warranty with my wife's up when we bought it, total waste of money as we never claimed for anything. This car is still chugging along with zero issues and the mileage is racking up.

Sometimes the warranty is just there so you can sleep better at night.
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A friend once asked for advice on a warranty some company was trying to sell him after OEM expired, I have never seen such mediocrity, most of the things that would possibly break were excluded, one I still remember even today, they cover the drive shafts but CV joints are excluded, now can you tell me what could possibly break a drive shaft? Of course it's the CV joints that are going to fail.

Even on the engine it was a careful selection of words like "if a covered part failed due to a part that is not covered then the warranty would not be honored", there was nothing in there that looked worthwhile for the benefit of the owner.

Sure maybe if you look hard enough you might find something, I recall the gearbox was covered, of course excluding the clutch and dual mass flywheel, one of the most expensive parts. How often does one break a gearbox? My car is approaching 300 000kms now, still on the original gearbox from General Motors.

Maybe it's worth it if you buy those troublesome, expensive cars where there are more things to break, a normal 4 cylinder Japanese engine? just buy the thing and ask the Good Lord to have mercy on you, he'll never let you down.
 
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Craig_ said:
We took a dealer warranty with my wife's up when we bought it, total waste of money as we never claimed for anything. This car is still chugging along with zero issues and the mileage is racking up.

Sometimes the warranty is just there so you can sleep better at night.
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I heard of a Toyota dealer who tried to sell a worse after market warranty to a buyer for much much more than the Toyota extended warranty. Beware sneaky dealers.
 
ChuckMeFarley said:
5 years ago I bought my BMW 320d F30 2012 for R186k. Go see what the prices going for now:

Here's the first one I could find with similar mileage, year and spec.
www.cars.co.za

2012 BMW 3 Series 320d Sport Auto

Used BMW 3 Series 320d Sport Auto for sale in Gauteng, car manufactured in 2012 (ID:8294507)
www.cars.co.za www.cars.co.za
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Supply chain/chip shortages have made prices mad. My old BM sells for 500k more now than what I sold it for in 2021. If only I had a crystal ball :(
 
medicnick83 said:
With regards to the WBC comment; how (if I may ask) did they try screw you over?
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WBC has been good to me to be honest. I've sold four cars through them in the last 3 years, a Mitsubishi, a Suzuki, a Jeep and a Mercedes. With the Merc, their evaluator crashed it into my neighbors wall when reversing for the inspection. They took responsibility and paid me 5% more than my best offer at a private dealership at the time. I didn't even have to claim from insurance and was happy at the time.

That said, in the same time they shanked me on the price for a VW and a BM. Got around 50k more for the VW and 300k more for the BM than what WBC offered
 
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