New DSLRs announced

koffiejunkie said:
I'm more interested in the "to IS or not to IS" debate. I'm really uneasy about stuff shifting around in the lens - it's a delicate enough pice of hardware. The Pentax system seems a better approach to me (not to mention cheaper and backwards compatible).
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You'd rather have stuff shifting around in the camera body?

If you have an extensive collection of high quality, fully compatible, lenses that you're actually going to use then you should take that into consideration.
 
It depends on what you are shooting. If its an either or situation then for low shutter speeds the IS, for action the faster glass.

One the advantages with a body based system is that you can have both and the costs involved are greatly reduced as every lens is IS.

Improvements in bodies happen all the time, so next time you change the body(every so often) then you get the IS improvement across the whole range of lenses. Changing fast glass for an IS improvement is just plain silly/expensive. Good glass lasts for decades. That shot of the snake was taken with a 1980's lens. Its still a good lens and compensated for nervous hands by the body based IS.

My 2c.:)
 
bwana said:
You'd rather have stuff shifting around in the camera body?
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I don't know the mechanics, but from the pictures I've seen it looks like it's just the sensor that shifts (or the plate that the sensor is mounted on).

I imagine if one lense element gets moved, the other 8-11 odd elements has to be moved too to compensate. One moving part sounds like a better deal to me.

If you have an extensive collection of high quality, fully compatible, lenses that you're actually going to use then you should take that into consideration.
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Agreed. Which is why I'm getting my old man the Pentax. But for myself, since I don't own anything, I can buy whatever I like, and I've pretty much decided on Canon. Unless I run into a nice Nikon for a good price, but that's unlikely - they're a fair bit more expensive.
 
Busy day - two more:

Fujifilm S100FS - There's no feature shortlist to copy and I can't be bothered to copy it now.

Samsung GX-20 - same as the Pentax K20D with a few changes to differentiate the brands, I guess.

Also there is a closer look at the Canon EOS 450D and some image samples here and here.

Pentax K20D samples here, here and here. (note: they're full 14MP samples - rather large) and a review from someone who's actually laid hands on it...
 
Wynsam said:
It depends on what you are shooting. If its an either or situation then for low shutter speeds the IS, for action the faster glass.
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Exactly, all depends what you will predominantly use your equipment for.
IS on Canon and VR on Nikon work very well.
The longer your lens the more difficult it is to get good sharp images unless you have the system very well rested.
The faster the lens the better as well as you can have much faster shutter speeds in low light conditions which would also assist in increasing the % of 'keepers'.
 
One thing I must say really surprised me (in a disappointing way) is people's reaction to the new cameras in general. I've been reading the discussions on dpreview on both Pentax-SLR and EOS 20/30/40 lists, and the majority of people are outraged at lack of "pro" features that made it into the new cameras. Lack of higher FPS and ISO seems to be the most common complaint.

What's even more puzzling is how many people react as if all of a sudden their 40Ds stopped being good cameras simply because it doesn't have 12MP. :confused:
 
koffiejunkie said:
One thing I must say really surprised me (in a disappointing way) is people's reaction to the new cameras in general. I've been reading the discussions on dpreview on both Pentax-SLR and EOS 20/30/40 lists, and the majority of people are outraged at lack of "pro" features that made it into the new cameras. Lack of higher FPS and ISO seems to be the most common complaint.

What's even more puzzling is how many people react as if all of a sudden their 40Ds stopped being good cameras simply because it doesn't have 12MP. :confused:
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From what I've read there most people understand the 450D is targeted at the procumer market.
 
Here is an example of what I referred to:

...now am totally shocked to see they've put a 12.2 mp in the 450D instead of the 40D,why have they done this,I feel like being stabbed in my back,this is really unfair,is this a marketing strategy or have they gone nuts,this is really paining me...
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Not that there wasn't favourable responses to the update - there are plenty. I'm just surprised at how many people completely lost perspective when the 450D got 12MP and not higher FPS/ISO.
 
Must say, I like the live view of the 450d. I wear glasses, so the viewfinder isn't my best friend.
 
jacqvt said:
Must say, I like the live view of the 450d. I wear glasses, so the viewfinder isn't my best friend.
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Like the 400D the 450D should also have a built in dioptric adjustment on the viewfinder.
 
bwana said:
Like the 400D the 450D should also have a built in dioptric adjustment on the viewfinder.
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Its still a pain with glasses - you cannot get your eye close enough to the viewfinder glass resulting in not being able to see the whole picture in the viewfinder.

Taking the glasses off is also not an option then you cannot see the review on the LCD screen - aye its a pain:(

I am also a fan of live view - makes it much simpler when taking pictures either low down or high up.
 
adsl3g said:
Its still a pain with glasses - you cannot get your eye close enough to the viewfinder glass resulting in not being able to see the whole picture in the viewfinder.

Taking the glasses off is also not an option then you cannot see the review on the LCD screen - aye its a pain:(

I am also a fan of live view - makes it much simpler when taking pictures either low down or high up.
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I'm not - I wont even consider at a point and shoot that doesnt have a viewfinder. :o

As for reviewing your shot . . . well I guess I know where you stand now. :p :D
 
Isn't there something, like an attachment that fits onto a viewfinder, that make it easier for people that wear glasses?
 
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