New Mac Pro from Apple

The £ key may not be visible, but it is there. Just press Option Key and 3. € key by pressing Shift Option 2.

The UK Macbooks do not show a # sign but for the rest the keyboard is the same as ours. The US keyboard looks different in that the Return key is horisontally and the key is next to the ] key.
We simply switch the keyboard layout to the UK and then shift+3 becomes the £ symbol. :)
 
R37,000 for a MP in RSA, £1,700 in the UK

The £1749 price in the UK compares to the R22000 version in SA. You must open the UK side and ensure that the specs are the same, when you specify the same processor as in the R37000 SA spec as well as the graphics card, your UK price increase to about £2400 or R34 200 at R14.25 per pound, the exchange rate I purchased pounds at yesterday. For the size of the machine and the excess freight on planes, I rather pay the 10% premium in SA and know that the Core group will give me support.
 
MS made your job real easy with their cutting edge tool and flexibility.......... You must be a person that never tried Apple software, they just work better, easier and wihout blue screens, and then they are still a fraction of the MS price.

#1: I spent plenty time on a mac. It aint nothin special. It is a computer.
#2: Apple arent exactly known for their dev tools, so I doubt they will make my job easier.
#3: I havent blue screened in many years... sorry, that one died out with windows 98.
#4: On the other hand, our graphic designer here has a mac (the one before this latest one..) it crashes plenty.
#5: In order to do his job, he has had to install Parrelells, and run an XP VM...so that kinda seals that argument.
#6: MAC is not a fraction of the price of PC... quite the opposite actually.
#7: MS reward their customers. Our company has been awarded an employee purchase program from MS. I can but Office 2007 for my own personal use for R150 bucks. XBOX Live was struggling over the christmas period, MS is giving away a free arcade game to say sorry for the poor service. MS holds free developer seminars on a regular basis, and is heavily focused on the SA comunities. MS released and entire suite of top end dev tools for FREE, for "enthusiests". I could go on. Dont see Apple doing stuff like that. You right... MS is pure evil...
 
#1: I spent plenty time on a mac. It aint nothin special. It is a computer.
#2: Apple arent exactly known for their dev tools, so I doubt they will make my job easier.
#3: I havent blue screened in many years... sorry, that one died out with windows 98.
#4: On the other hand, our graphic designer here has a mac (the one before this latest one..) it crashes plenty.
#5: In order to do his job, he has had to install Parrelells, and run an XP VM...so that kinda seals that argument.
#6: MAC is not a fraction of the price of PC... quite the opposite actually.
#7: MS reward their customers. Our company has been awarded an employee purchase program from MS. I can but Office 2007 for my own personal use for R150 bucks. XBOX Live was struggling over the christmas period, MS is giving away a free arcade game to say sorry for the poor service. MS holds free developer seminars on a regular basis, and is heavily focused on the SA comunities. MS released and entire suite of top end dev tools for FREE, for "enthusiests". I could go on. Dont see Apple doing stuff like that. You right... MS is pure evil...
You really need to try looking - even though a full suite of developer tools comes on every OS installation disk if you happened to have misplaced yours you can get them free from http://developer.apple.com/macosx/ as well as a whole host of third party tools from http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/development_tools/
 
I was implying that it is not exactly their fortei. But thanks for the info, will look into it.
They seem to have put a great deal of effort into accommodating developers - their annual WWDC is the highlight of the year for many. :)
 
You gotta be kidding me:

"To say that Cocoa has its own development environment wouldn’t quite be an accurate statement. For one thing, programmers can use Apple’s major development applications, Xcode and Interface Builder, to develop software for other Mac OS X application environments, such as Carbon. Moreover, it is possible to develop Cocoa applications without using Xcode and Interface Builder at all. For example, you could write code using a text editor such as Emacs, build the application from the command line using make files, and debug the application from the command line using the gdb debugger."

Umm... sorry m8... that is not even a comparison next to VS.
 
They seem to have put a great deal of effort into accommodating developers - their annual WWDC is the highlight of the year for many. :)

And where is this annual event held?

MS put on a local show several times a year, in most major centers.
 
And where is this annual event held?

MS put on a local show several times a year, in most major centers.
WWDC is only one event - not the only event.
 
just want to know: what on earth do people use these machines for?
 
#4: On the other hand, our graphic designer here has a mac (the one before this latest one..) it crashes plenty.
#5: In order to do his job, he has had to install Parrelells, and run an XP VM...so that kinda seals that argument.

He *has* to run stuff in Parralells? What for?
 
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#4: On the other hand, our graphic designer here has a mac (the one before this latest one..) it crashes plenty.
#5: In order to do his job, he has had to install Parrelells, and run an XP VM...so that kinda seals that argument.
#6: MAC is not a fraction of the price of PC... quite the opposite actually.
#7: MS reward their customers. Our company has been awarded an employee purchase program from MS. I can but Office 2007 for my own personal use for R150 bucks. XBOX Live was struggling over the christmas period, MS is giving away a free arcade game to say sorry for the poor service. MS holds free developer seminars on a regular basis, and is heavily focused on the SA comunities. MS released and entire suite of top end dev tools for FREE, for "enthusiests". I could go on. Dont see Apple doing stuff like that. You right... MS is pure evil...

yeah, good mac support is scarce. M$ fanboois are a dime a dozen. As for m$ handing out freebies, it comes with the territory... Beggars and bums are the reason the net is such a mess with sites that require ie to work properly. Ms must be the only guys who dont adhere to the www standards they helped to develop.
 
I read on apple.com that there is only 20% more memory bandwidth available which means at best in the real world you'll see 20% better performance than the previous Mac Pro running the same number of cores. They increased the cache too so maybe a 20% increase is a bit conservative but it shouldn't be too much more.

At present there is nothing I can do to get Compressor (Final Cut Studio 2) (latest patches) on Leopard (latest patches) to use all of my four 3GHz cores, it maxes out at
67% or so or sometimes even less. Same goes for FCP renders. Same for MPEGStreamClip, Toast compression (even worse this maxes out at 50% or less) and Handbrake.
 
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Video editors and graphic designers love them.

They're very nice machines. I have the 3GHz Quad core model and although now a generation behind with this announcement it's still incredibly fast. Generating H246 video is very fast. I can upgrade mine to the 8 core model (prev generation though) - maybe those CPUs will be cheaper now :).
 
Ms must be the only guys who dont adhere to the www standards they helped to develop.


A little bit of a niave statement. Should check your facts on this. Pretty much no one adheres to the standards, every browser has its little quicks.
 
As for m$ handing out freebies, it comes with the territory... Beggars and bums are the reason the net is such a mess with sites that require ie to work properly.

I really did try to understand what you trying to say here...I still dont quite understand.
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A little bit of a niave statement. Should check your facts on this. Pretty much no one adheres to the standards, every browser has its little quicks.

You may have drunk the koolaid but not all of us have. MS and IE are the worst when it comes to standards, by a long long way.
 
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