New MTN Data rates

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Yes you can. if you are on topup 300 you can convert it to a 1gig bundle and have some change for sms. An get a new phone every 2 years:D

How to you convert airtime to data bundles? I am on Mychoice 75 Topup. When I phone 141 IVR, there is no option to convert airtime to data bundles.

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As someone said, having a Virgin SIM (or phone) would be a solution, (to use rather than buying a top-up) it would also introduce a bit of competition
 

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@Beri, I've got a top up 75 contract and would like to get the 100 MB bundle for R80, but according to the new pricing top up falls under contract so in effect you have to add a bundle to your contract and can't buy one using the included airtime I think :confused:
 

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@Beri, I've got a top up 75 contract and would like to get the 100 MB bundle for R80, but according to the new pricing top up falls under contract so in effect you have to add a bundle to your contract and can't buy one using the included airtime I think :confused:

i am on vodacom top up and just add money to the R135 they give me and buy a one gig bundle
 

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The new MTN data rates only make me more certain that I was right to go with adsl.
 

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Yep ic, it is really frustrating having to go around in circles having to keep on making the same points about why rollover is a good idea. On the issue of MTN's pricing: R169 for 350 MB and R189 for 500 MB so obviously they want you buy the 500MB bundle so their is a better chance of you losing out:rolleyes:
We can't always assume a company will disregard their own interests and put the customer first. That's the job of consumer protectors like ICASA - they but ain't doing it.
 

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We can't always assume a company will disregard their own interests and put the customer first. That's the job of consumer protectors like ICASA - they but ain't doing it.

Has anybody been to ICASA about the Rollover issue ????

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i am on vodacom top up and just add money to the R135 they give me and buy a one gig bundle

I've also got the VC Top Up 135 and have purchased PPDB. I was talking about MTN Mychoice 75 in my previous post. It doesn't look like MTN allows the included top up airtime to purchase bundles.
 

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I'm on the 1Gig contract with the IBM laptop. I pay R999 per month. R499 for the 1Gig and R498 for the laptop...

Will I also now pay the R389 instead of R499 for the new 2 Gig package?
 
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I'm on the 1Gig contract with the IBM laptop. I pay R999 per month. R499 for the 1Gig and R498 for the laptop...

Will I also now pay the R389 instead of R499 for the new 2 Gig package?
I think you're going to have to send Pitbull a p.m. with a link to your post - considering that he's a bit occupied ATM:
I'll be playing WoW then and won't have time for myadsl :D
 

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Can you expand & explain. Me also thinking. :)

It just means that in retrospect I'm glad I didn't get into a 24 month contract paying more for the same amount of data with higher latencies. Also, I don't see anything in those price reductions to compel a user to consider anything other than adsl, provided their exchange is up to it. At least the 350MB PPDB is a bit more reasonable for when I have to travel. VC don't cater to poor people requiring bundles < 500MB :p.
A little mentioned fact is that Telscum also have an 0861 PoP for when you're on the move. Dunno if it actually works, never tried it. I wonder what happened to the free T-Zone minutes they used to throw in with adsl that you could use at the airport etc?
 

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These are very competitive rates when compared with priced in Australia, NZ and even the UK (Vodafone etc), despite the fact that our local and international bandwidth prices are very high. There are strong suggestions that VC and MTN may be selling data below cost at this stage (CellC CEO said this is why they are not interested in 3G/HSDPA) which is obviously difficult to justify to the CFO of a company.

RPM

Here is my mini survey of rates in the UK, Australia and New Zealand for comparison purposes. Any comments or criticisms are as usual very welcome.

The UK, Australia and New Zealand have always had higher HSDPA prices than the rest of Europe and Asia so the comparison is quite interesting.

Here are some other UK rates. Vodafone 25GBP for 3Gig, T-Mobile 29GBP for 3Gig, 44GBP for 10Gig, 7.5GBP for 1Gig (via phone). Orange also has an unlimited weekend and evening EDGE browsing in the UK for 5GBP per month. In November Vodafone will begin offering 7.2Mbps HSDPA in some parts of the UK. In Australia 3 is offering 1GB for 29AUD, 2GB for 49AUD and a free USB modem, 3GB for 69AUD and 5GB for 99AUD. The offer from Virgin is even better. For 60AUD you get a home WiFi HSDPA modem, unlimited calls to Virgin cell phones, unlimited landline calls, 4GB of HSDPA throttled to 128K when the limit is exceeded (not cut off like in SA) 64K P2P download speeds etc. Even Vodafone New Zealand's rates are slightly cheaper than ours 1GB for 60NZD, 3GB for 80NZD (if you pay 10NZD more you can double these allocations to 2GB and 6GB respectively it would appear).

One must also consider that the European operators had to pay huge 3G license fees - Vodafone paid 9.4 Billion USD in the UK alone! Vodacom has only spent approximately R2 billion Rand so far on their entire rollout and if I remember correctly paid R100 million for their license. Telkom may be charging high prices for bandwidth but even taking this into consideration prices seem excessive - the cost of their network including licensing must be a fraction of those in the UK. Salary costs in the UK are also much higher.

If Telkom's bandwidth costs were the main reason for the high costs in SA then why is the out of bundle rate so much higher than the in bundle rate? If they were serious about bringing Internet access to previously disadvanted communities then why must the poor pay 10 times more (R2 vs 20c per meg) to receive the same service than the rich business community. This seems very unfair. If you purchase any product in bulk there is usually some discount involved but this level of discount seems totally unjustified. Consider that something like 85% of Vodacom and MTN's customers are prepaid and are still forced to pay more for all services. What about offering customers a certain amount of free local bandwidth? This is much cheaper than international and could be very useful. How about bundling 1000 free minutes to cellphones on Vodacom or MTN networks - the Australians are already doing much better than this.

The above problem could be solved it would appear through the licensing of several MVNOs. This would ensure that all customers benefit from bulk data purchases rather than having the operators artificially inflate prices by 1000% on small purchases etc. It would appear that Virgin Mobile is already doing this on a small scale in SA with their data packages.
See http://mobilesociety.typepad.com/mobile_life/2006/10/mvnos_and_compe.html

Martin Sauter also has this to say about license fees and HSDPA coverage and also discusses the situation in France where there are two large operators and one much smaller one (just like in SA). He also discusses the price of delivery of 1GB of data via HSDPA (just scroll down the second link).
http://mobilesociety.typepad.com/mobile_life/2006/10/do_cheap_3g_lic.html
http://mobilesociety.typepad.com/mobile_life/2007/02/index.html

UK HSDPA/EDGE rates
http://online.vodafone.co.uk/dispat...fpb=true&_pageLabel=template05&pageID=BS_0026
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/internet/laptop/?ref=newhome_dataplans_link
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/price-plans/pay-monthly/webnwalk/plans/?ref=quick
http://www2.orange.co.uk/servlet/Sa...96023564458&mid=1137070320205&t=Service&tab=2

Australian HSDPA rates
http://www.itwire.com/content/view/13534/1095/
http://www.virginbroadband.com.au/wirelessbroadband/broadband-at-home.aspx

New Zealand HSDPA rates
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/personal/plans-services/plans/3G-broadband-and-data/3g-broadband-plans.jsp

European 3G license fees
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BMD/is_103_6/ai_62406251
http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=132580
http://www.gsmworld.com/gsmeurope/faq/3g.shtml
 
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It just means that in retrospect I'm glad I didn't get into a 24 month contract paying more for the same amount of data with higher latencies. Also, I don't see anything in those price reductions to compel a user to consider anything other than adsl, provided their exchange is up to it. At least the 350MB PPDB is a bit more reasonable for when I have to travel. VC don't cater to poor people requiring bundles < 500MB :p.
A little mentioned fact is that Telscum also have an 0861 PoP for when you're on the move. Dunno if it actually works, never tried it. I wonder what happened to the free T-Zone minutes they used to throw in with adsl that you could use at the airport etc?
Looks like it's still available - http://www.telkom.co.za/athome/products/dsl/home_what_is_dsl.html
 

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Can Top Up amounts be used to purchase bundles?:confused: This seems like a very half hearted attempt at a price decrease:p



The connection keeps on going after your balance hits zero;)
Until your airtime balance hits zero which doesn't take long at R2/MB. There are other ways to minimise costs like SmartCall which gives you 9% extra airtime. Currently if MTN wants my business they have to charge me less than R257 for a 2GB bundle or else it doesn't make financial sense unless they can give me my airtime for less. ;)
The sad thing is that no one should struggle to find 500MB [or less] worth of stuff to deplete one's data bundle on: 500MB is actually a tiny amount of data in the context of broadband, so a few visits to youtube and one would be well on one's way to using up one's data bundle - provided the network is actually working at the time.
I really have to stress this point. Currently not enough consumers actually use up their bundles for Vodacom to consider rollover - except for the other kind of rollover :rolleyes: . This seems counter intuitive but if people don't actually use up their data it makes financial sense for them to simply take it away. So everyone PLEEEASE just make sure you use it all. Ration it, give it away, waste it, just make sure you don't give it back to them.
 

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Until your airtime balance hits zero which doesn't take long at R2/MB. There are other ways to minimise costs like SmartCall which gives you 9% extra airtime. Currently if MTN wants my business they have to charge me less than R257 for a 2GB bundle or else it doesn't make financial sense unless they can give me my airtime for less. ;)

I really have to stress this point. Currently not enough consumers actually use up their bundles for Vodacom to consider rollover - except for the other kind of rollover :rolleyes: . This seems counter intuitive but if people don't actually use up their data it makes financial sense for them to simply take it away. So everyone PLEEEASE just make sure you use it all. Ration it, give it away, waste it, just make sure you don't give it back to them.

Interesting idea:) If more people used up their bundles then Vodacom might be interested in rollover to induce customers to buy bigger bundles. But the more you have the more you will use, and can the network sustain the extra usage thus generated?:confused:
 

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Interesting idea:) If more people used up their bundles then Vodacom might be interested in rollover to induce customers to buy bigger bundles. But the more you have the more you will use, and can the network sustain the extra usage thus generated?:confused:

Ag no man sky.akash don't go and spoil it. :p

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Interesting idea:) If more people used up their bundles then Vodacom might be interested in rollover to induce customers to buy bigger bundles. But the more you have the more you will use, and can the network sustain the extra usage thus generated?:confused:
Didn't think of it that way. My point is that they won't want to introduce rollover as everyone will then use their whole bundle and they will have to pay for the data and to transmit it. It makes financial sense for them to simply take away what you don't use. My idea is to remove that incentive.
 
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