New priorities for Ubuntu Linux?

[rpm]

New priorities for Ubuntu?

Ubuntu has come a long way. Now developers need to focus on polishing up this rough gem

 

[Other Pineapple Smurf]

Agree on the UbuntuOne issues.

 

[Jonny Two Shoes]

Have they even fixed their 5.1 sound yet? Last I tried was 9.10 or something and still could not get sound working properly spent freakin hours tweaking config files and playing with channels and samples and different apps only to get it half working :/

 

[Tinuva]

Have they even fixed their 5.1 sound yet? Last I tried was 9.10 or something and still could not get sound working properly spent freakin hours tweaking config files and playing with channels and samples and different apps only to get it half working :/

Uhm, nowadays with PulseAudio this is as easy as using the volume app to change the speakers to 5.1 and it fix the config files for you. At least thats how I did it.

 

[Tinuva]

BLeh.

 

[KikzAzz]

If you decide to support Ubuntu just because it is not Microsoft Windows it is fine, but don't try to compare it feature for feature. I have tried Ubuntu a number of times, the OS is perfect, but the problem in using it as a business tool is that OpenOffice sucks, and can't at all compare with Microsoft Office. The office environment is a Microsoft environment whether we like it or not, and connecting to the AD, printers using Microsoft OCS (The collaboration tool that has been deployed) and scheduling meeting on Outlook just does not work with Ubuntu. And I don't want to fiddle around for hours in getting Office working through Wine and get crappy response just because I want to boycot Microsoft.

 

[Catal]

I'm using the newest Kubuntu on fairly powerful hardware and I experience Firefox, Chrome, Dolphin, Temperature Sensor and Kate crashes every week.

I'm really not trying to exaggerate here, but

1) I've given up trying to use Chrome,
2) I have to kill Firefox every other day, and
3) Dolphin (the default filehandler) crashes whenever I try to copy a lot of files, and
4) the Temperature Sensor module fails after I resume from hibernation, and
5) using Kate to edit +10000 line source files, it decides to malfunction when I sometimes do code folding.

That on an 3.3GHz i7, 8GB RAM, 80GB ssd rig.

Maybe I should try out Gnome and see if it behaves better, but I've always preferred KDE over it.

Polish away I say!

 

[ItalicBold]

Well I have just switched my desktop and server envs to ubuntu having never used linux before and I am completely happy with it. Works out of the box and does everything I need. HoN even works on it! I have not tried ubuntuone yet. As a .net developer I have been able to port all my .net applications without having to rewrite anything. Its fantastic.

That said I agree that if there is polishing that needs to be done it should be given priority over new features.

 

[Avenue]

Im a little disappointed with 10.04, It is a little buggy on my system, a lot of the features that worked 100% in 9.10 no longer work... that said, I installed windows 7 on my laptop and that just irritated me more, it couldn't find drivers, I had to fiddle quite a bit to get everything to work, so ill stick with ubuntu

 

[DailyTech]

That on an 3.3GHz i7, 8GB RAM, 80GB ssd rig.
Polish away I say!

Have you REALLY checked out your hardware, after 30 years of doing IT, I have discovered that 90% of people's multiple crashes are caused by the hardware.
Why should so MANY apps crash ?
Install some other OS and see if that crashes as often?

 

[relronde]

I think there might be an issue with the i7 processor. I got a new Dell notebook last week with an 17. I installed 10.04 x64 and it was also unstable. I've been running both 9.10 and 10.04 on a Dell D820 without stability issues.

 

[Jonny Two Shoes]

Uhm, nowadays with PulseAudio this is as easy as using the volume app to change the speakers to 5.1 and it fix the config files for you. At least thats how I did it.

Well on 9.10 that didn't work either and just to be sure I formatted and re-installed and just changed those things people told me to carefully making sure I touch nothing else but to no avail the best I managed at one stage was music coming from 4 of the 5 speakers but if memory serves that was duplicate speakers setting or something like that which was not stereo. Gave up on Ubuntu a while ago though and went back to Windows so haven't tried it on the latest version.

 

[pkid]

Couldn't agree more. Ubuntu has a lot of potential but they push out releases too quickly. It works for the most part but there are always those small bugs that kill me. I would be more than happy to wait 2 years between release cycles if it leads to greater polish and fewer bugs. I always seem to end up back with Windows 7 after trying Ubuntu.

 

[Viva]

I'm using the newest Kubuntu on fairly powerful hardware and I experience Firefox, Chrome, Dolphin, Temperature Sensor and Kate crashes every week.

I'm really not trying to exaggerate here, but

1) I've given up trying to use Chrome,
2) I have to kill Firefox every other day, and
3) Dolphin (the default filehandler) crashes whenever I try to copy a lot of files, and
4) the Temperature Sensor module fails after I resume from hibernation, and
5) using Kate to edit +10000 line source files, it decides to malfunction when I sometimes do code folding.

That on an 3.3GHz i7, 8GB RAM, 80GB ssd rig.

Maybe I should try out Gnome and see if it behaves better, but I've always preferred KDE over it.

Polish away I say!

I have actually always found Kubuntu to be quite unstable. Also experienced many crashes. On the other hand, Ubuntu always worked perfectly for me. Maybe consider giving Ubuntu a try?

 

[Smiley_lauf]

I am an avid user of OpenSource and Linux--but have to agree with almost all points made here.

 

[peanutville]

Also like to install Ubuntu and check how the OS has progressed, but as mentioned does need additional TLC before release.

 

[AfricanTech]

Can we please have a "rollback" feature - what really irritates me is when an update breaks something and there is no easy way to rollback. Oh, and while they're polishing, can we have a GUI based image backup solution that does incremental backups.

 

[Centaur]

I agree there are a lot of things that needs to be improved and fixed, however slowly but surely as newer versions of Ubuntu comes out, it also features the newer versions of those packages, which also contain a lot of bug fixes.
In Ubuntu 9.10 I also had the 5.1 speaker problem, after much reading online, the only fix I found was to add the pulseaudio repositories and force update my audio drivers. However in Ubuntu 10.04 it works out of the box (probably because of the newer drivers).

Even though Ubuntu is getting better, with new features and all, I now mostly prefer Linux Mint. Which is to me, much more polished.

Can we please have a "rollback" feature - what really irritates me is when an update breaks something and there is no easy way to rollback. Oh, and while they're polishing, can we have a GUI based image backup solution that does incremental backups.

Those suggestions fall on deaf ears, better post them as an idea on Ubuntu's brainstorm ( http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ )

 

[psypher246]

I agree with the author. I wish JUST ONE release of ubuntu HAD NO NEW FEATURES. Instead of adding a bunch of new features that work only half right, like you said, they need to spend one entire release cycle JUST fixing bugs and polishing up. Linux and Ubuntu is AWESOME. i would not switch back to windows for anything, I hate the way windows does everything, I cannot do my daily work on it and I am more efficient with linux. Yes Ubuntu is not for everyone and you must always stick with what works for you. I am lucky that I do not really need Office in my daily work as a network engineer so Org is fine for me. But it would be great to have an email client that actually works flawlessly with Exchange. Evolution doesn't even work at all let alone with exchange. It's a complete fail of a application and must be dumped entirely and all focus put on thunderbird. I have really tried using evolution, but it just sucks. I keep going back to thunderbird. Every new release of ubuntu i hope and wish, evolution, exchange, will it work?? Nope, back to the bird. I use IMAP incidentally with thunderbird. I tried using the exchange plugin for evolution but it's always crashing, hanging, does not update my folders, my gnome-panel clock kept crashing due to the calendar integration, couldn't mail ditribution lists without crashing the app. Thunderbird works perfectly with IMAP and I have GAL searhing setup as well so i have contacts. Luckily my work has a terminal server I can connect to for Office, Outlook and IE only applications (which cannot run on wine/crossover/cedega), but it's a bit of a mission.


Shuttleworth and Canonical, heed my warning. Spend any more time on adding new features and not fixing the really cool broken ones from the previous release and you are going to go down. Please, just ONE release cycle, get the bugs and stability up to speed. You have an amazing product, but there is some serious bugs in there which is hurting your image BADLY! But I have stuck with your since Warty, only release I never installed was Edgy Eft and I will stick with you still. But soon, I would like to see some dedication to something other than cool new features. Time for catchup!

 

[suPerb0b]

Wait what? UbuntuOne works sometimes?
I disabled that crap because it just never works. Would have been nice if there was a nice notes manager or something with ubuntuone that is not sticky notes.