New Rig

killadoob said:
My advice sandman is do not take a forum user saying yes that is fine as the answer, suggestions yet but go and read some reviews. they get technical and point out possible issues and so on. I never buy a motherboard based on someone's opinion.
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Well this board has been recommended over and over by several people here. It has also received very favourable reviews online but yeah we're all trying to pull the wool over the OPs eyes and lead him down the garden path out of spite because he's building a new rig.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-express-ivy-bridge-benchmark,3254-35.html
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asrock_z77_extreme4_review,17.html
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asrock_z77_extreme_4/12.htm
http://www.overclockers.com/asrock-z77-extreme4-motherboard-review
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asrock-z77-extreme6-extreme4_11.html#sect0
http://www.hardwaremx.com/reviews/review-asrock-z77-extreme-4/11/
http://www.easycom.com.ua/mboard/asrock_z77_extreme4/
http://www.pctreiber.net/2012/asrock-z77-extreme4-review.html/6
http://site.hwa.com.tr/asrock-z77-extreme-4-incelemesi/6.html
http://www.techzone.ro/asrock-z77-extreme4-review-5534/concluzie
http://www.beareyes.com.cn/2/lib/201205/28/20120528140_15.htm
 
Shame ponder did i hit a nerve bud?

It's a big decision to make when you purchase a motherboard and one that should be researched, that is all i was saying, let him read them and then he can say i have decided to purchase this mobo based on many good reviews and not because ponder told me it was good. You freak out and link reviews which was my exact point so why so angry bro? are you upset that someone had the nerve to question your judgement or knowledge?

Then i said take a look at the next one up from asrock which i think is this one
http://www.prophecy.co.za/asrock-ex....html?osCsid=65a21a0997306e100d4a320d1854a31c

Not much more but are the extra features worth 400 bucks or not? So there is more to buying a motherboard than ponder saying hey buy this one because i read all the reviews. next time we will just believe you because shame you get so upset.

You might find the extreme6 a bit cheaper elsewhere. I am too lazy to find the differences between the extreme 6 and 4 and whether it would be 400 well spent or wasted but maybe the great and amazing all knowing ponder could enlighten us, i am sure he knows about the extreme6 and why it would not be a good idea to spend the extra 400.

The floor is yours ponder, tell us which of those two what you would pick and why. Although eish i don't wanna make you cry again.

Ponder if he didn't read the reviews do you think he would have noticed that the extreme4 has some memory incompatibilities , meaning you need to check what memory to buy before you buy it online. Did you mention that to him? the extreme 4. Fairly important information but i am sure you told him about it so when he bought memory he would know what to stay away from. Must have been a pm, now dude when i say there is technical info that some forum members might not know you have proven why you read reviews before listening to a forum a member who suggests something. You can research their suggestion but it is never a great idea to purchase based on what one person says. Technical info and possible issues are pointed out in reviews unlike ponder who never pointed out the memory issue and was forced into posting reviews haha anyways. If you want to listen to ponder without researching the only issue is memory, ask ponder about it. Don't google because ponder will know.]

Ponder what memory should he avoid with that extreme4, what memory do you have?
 
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Look at post#14, I did mention two other boards in his R2.5k budget like he asked for in post#11 :rolleyes:
 
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Look at post#14, I did mention two other boards in his R2.5k budget like he asked for in post#11 :rolleyes:
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Why so angry though and cocky because i said research and make the decision on your own, i never said disregard anything ponder said, you suggested stuff which is great but dude i don't get why you got all bent out of joint when i said you should research suggestions and avoid just purchasing because one person says it's good.

I could say he say he should go with the intel z77 because it's amazing, now should he just go ahead or should he research? I don't get the attitude you gave me, would you listen to a forum member without researching? If you say no then you should stop acting so cocky and chill out, are you freaking out on acid or something?

Ponder what memory will work with that extreme4 did you find out yet? Could be a huge cock up when his stuff arrives and he has memory issues :D. Anyways whatever it's chilled back on topic no more agroness ponder :p.

If only i didn't have a rule that i wont spend more than 2k on a mobo i would have bought this one :D
http://www.shopbot.co.za/pp-asus-sabertooth-z77-asus-price-367124.html my gosh that mobo is be***.
 
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killadoob said:
My advice sandman is do not take a forum user saying yes that is fine as the answer, suggestions yet but go and read some reviews. they get technical and point out possible issues and so on. I never buy a motherboard based on someone's opinion. it is one component you want to ensure is perfect.

Do you use any other ports apart from gpu port? do you have a pci sound card card or something like that because you need to factor that sort of thing in but you are not stupid so i am sure you know that. Although you like hamilton so maybe not :p just kidding dude.

Seriously research before buying a motherboard and read a minimum of 5 reviews, proper with reviews with more than one page :D. Check out the different models, sometimes a slightly more expensive model is better and it's only 100 bucks more so look at the next level as well, not sure if it's the 6 or not or what the price difference is but don't go buy something because killadoob(example obviously) says it's good.

I think that is about the only component you need to research well and you should look into nvidia as well, unless you are one of those i support ati no matter what. I am not an nvidia fan but i buy the best i have owned both and based my choice on reviews. It's terrible to have that amd fanboy type way of thinking, even though amd is slower people will buy their cpu's because they support amd. There is no loyality in the computer world, it's all about performance and price and who makes it is irrelevant. If you are a fanboy that is also fine though but it's silly to purchase stuff based on the maker. obiously jeans for instance you buy name brands because the cut is good and the cheap shyte looks crap but computers not a chance. Price and Performance. Warranty as well, gigabyte is 3 years what is the warranty with asrock i wonder, i will leave that for you to check and let us know.

O and don't buy shyte psu's, buy corsair if possible, best psu i have ever used. 650w ran 3 6970's :D and they were all maxed mining bitcoins 24/7. I sold the one when i stopped because 3 6970's is overkill. Well it was actually 1 6970 and a 6990,i don't think a 6990 is two 6970's it hhas two 6970 gpu's on the pcb where as my 9800x2 was literally two 9800's.
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killadoob said:
Why so angry though and cocky because i said research and make the decision on your own, i never said disregard anything ponder said, you suggested stuff which is great but dude i don't get why you got all bent out of joint when i said you should research suggestions and avoid just purchasing because one person says it's good.
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My God, now you're just being thick intentionally. Your two walls of text don't help OP whatsoever in his purchase decisions. Be helpful or GTFO. Some people don't have the time or patience to check out five different reviews, that's why they come to ask people who either have the know-how or experience.
 
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Experience and know how of ponder and wesley is truly amazing spotting the the memory issue and linking a list for sandman to ensure he buys the the right memory. Wait that wasn't ponder nor was it wesley. I think ponder and wesley can be the guys who recommend stuff and the rest of us will research the item in question because research and reading reviews seems way better than listening to random forum users claiming they know it all. Why read reviews with ponder around. Just buy and hope he isn't a noob who misses that the board has an issue, not a big issue but an issue that could end badly without the right information.

The list of memory supported by the extreme4, maybe the right memory would have been bought but now you know without a doubt you won't buy the wrong memory. Rather safe than sorry, oddly i picked up the issue reading reviews. Now the experience wesley speaks of is clearly lacking so let the inexperienced killadoob help out and put effort into pointing it out. I won't however tell you to ignore reviews and buy what i tell you because honestly that i will leave to special people with big heads.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77 Extreme4/?cat=Memory

Wesley and ponder the most experienced people to recommend hardware. We all know recommending something is where it ends, no need for reviews to pick up something as silly as memory issues. Thank god for the experience of ponder and wesley, now we know there is a memory issue and we have a list of memory that will work.

Got to say this hardware forum needs pada and a few others back, now pada is someone i would not question because amazingly wesley and ponder he reads reviews and researches using google.com. Anyways maybe this post is not helpful considering how experienced some people are. Experienced in what is the question wesley? Reading facebook instead of reviews or just assuming the motherboard would work with every memory module out there when reviews CLEARLY POINTED IT OUT AS AN ISSUE. Sandman don't bother with my posts dude i think the experience of wesley and ponder is enough.

Ponder: It has also received very favourable reviews

Yup it has but many folks who didn't read reviews have had to exchange memory or buy new memory because they thought like most motherboards most ram works. If you make the right memory selection you are fine, reviews are very good, extreme 6 gets rave reviews as well, the fatality not really that great. Extreme 6 looks pretty good though as well but the extreme 4 will be amazing and looks incredible, with the right memory it will work at least. Very rare to find a board that supports such a limited range of memory but at least there is a list to work from so it won't be an issue.

Well done ponder and wesley for ensuring sandman didn't have to read reviews because you had it covered 100% with no issues. You guys are truly SPECIAL. Thank goodness there are more than just the two of you in the hardware section.

Pada where you at bro, we need someone who knows his shyte and won't attack someone for pointing out an issue. sandman don't just buy what people tell you unless you know they are good, pada would have told you about this board and linked the supported memory because he would have known about it. Anyways i am done, nice long post just for wesley :D. Mwa mr experienced in something, recommendations is not really great wesley. Knowing your shyte is way better but pada will be back to help you.
 
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Okay am now considering the ASRock Extreme 6 mobo with this GPU.

Problem is the size of the card. Will it pose an issue with the board I intend using?
 
Damn it. Another consideration is my 3 monitor setup. I have older monitors that don't have support for display port so I'll need an active display port adaptor to utilize the display port on the card. What would be ideal is 2 x dvi and 1x hdmi but can't seem to find a top end card with this setup.
 
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Okay am now considering the ASRock Extreme 6 mobo with this GPU.

Problem is the size of the card. Will it pose an issue with the board I intend using?
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Nope but you will want a big case like haf x, having had a look closely at the extreme six it won't be an issue. I can't see anything it would block or get blocked by. What you must check sandman is the box you buy, i don't have time right now to check the length of that card but check the length and ensure the box you buy will cope easily or you will land up with a cramped box with no airflow. Make sure the box has good cable management as well.

If i was buying high end parts i would ensure i had a box more than capable of handling the parts like haf x or something big and spacious. if you are set on a box read reviews and ensure they don't mention space issues and poor cable management. I have heard the direct c cooling on the asus cards can rattle you may want to look at another brand or just read some reviews because it's fine when you game but rattling can get annoying. i am not telling you what to do though just offering advice, i am only a forum member and i could be wrong. If you are going drop 10-15k on a pc you would be silly to avoid reading many many reviews.

Ponder and wesley proved reading reviews is extremely important when blowing big money on computer stuff.

Do not listen to seriously, asus may be big but that does not mean they are the best. Asrock are making some of the best boards at the moment, buying asus because they are big is silly. Having said that if you want to buy asus and feel it would be better by all means go for it but don't do it because they are big. Big yes the best? I dunno

You get converters sandman, that though i am not clued up on i don't know if you get a dvi to hdmi converter but i know hdmi to dvi is fine.
 
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This is pretty much where I'm at the mo...



ASUS P8Z77-VPRO - INTEL Z77 CHIPSET - R 2 199 excl. R 2,506 incl. pcint

or

ASROCK Z77 EXTREME4, ALL-IN-ONE LGA1155, INTEL Z77, 4X DUAL CHANNEL DDR3 2800, O R1,634 rebeltech

or

ASROCK Z77 EXTREME6, ALL-IN-ONE LGA1155, INTEL Z77, 4X DUAL CHANNEL DDR3 2800, O R1,938

Intel Core i7 3770k Processor - 3.40GHz, Socket 1155, 8MB L3, 2.0Gb/s Ivy Bridge R 2 992 excl. R 3,410 incl. pcint

4GB DDRIII-1600 (Corsair/Kingston) R 267 excl. R 304 incl. x 2 = R608 pcint

Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 7870 Direct CUII, 2GB GDDR5, 256-Bit, 1x DVI 2X Display ports, HDMI R 2 999 excl. R 3,418 incl. pcint

or

ASUS HD7970-DC2-3GD5, HD7970, DIRECTCU II EDITION, 3GB 384BIT 4 CHANNEL DDR5, W R5,026 rebeltech

CORSAIR Professional Series HX1050 1050W High Performance Modular Power Supply - 80PLUS Gold Certified R 2 099 excl. R 2,392 incl. pcint

or

CORSAIR TX850M, 850W (12V : 840W), WITH MODULAR CABLE MANAGEMENT, EPS V2.92 + R1,691 rebeltech

OCZ VERTEX 4 128GB 2.5" SATA6G SSD, READ: 550MB/S, WRITE: 420MB/S, RANDOM WRITE R1,371 rebeltech

Coolermaster HAF- XM Case - No PSU R 1 149 excl. R 1,309 incl. pcint

THERMALRIGHT VENOMOUS X SILENT, WITH 40-70LBS PRESSURE ADJUSTMENT, NICKEL PLATED R705 rebeltech

Sapphire DisplayPort to DVi active adapter cable - for 3rd display unit when using ATi eyefinity R332 Sybaratic

R16k

EDIT: Selling my old rig to my business for R10k!!
 
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You are wasting 1k on the psu but it's your choice. I am off to go take my g/f shopping i will check it out a bit later and read some reviews and try help you, i won't tell you what to do but i will do my best to help you decide :D.

Well if you don't mind the inexperienced killa**** helping you, you might want those experienced know hows to help you rather but the i think their tails are between their legs at the moment.

Shyte bro pity pada isn't around :( but google will get you there :D.

One last thing this http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2012/09/24/cooler-master-haf-xm-review/1 looks like fking rubbish to me.

Go look at the haf x and see how many fans it has, that box looks like it won't have good cooling. Don't cheap out on the box, drop the psu and spend the savings on the haf x rather but it's your choice. Mid tower and high end pc isn't right.

High end pc high end case, full tower
 
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killadoob said:
You are wasting 1k on the psu but it's your choice. I am off to go take my g/f shopping i will check it out a bit later and read some reviews and try help you, i won't tell you what to do but i will do my best to help you decide :D.

Well if you don't mind the inexperienced killa**** helping you, you might those experienced know hows to help you rather.

Shyte bro pity pada isn't around :( but google will get you there :D.
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Lol, thanks dude. I appreciate the advice from all quarters.

Pada's been on but has refrained from commenting in this thread. He may be tired of yet another 'new rig' thread.

Look I think most components are pretty much a given. PSU is solid (despite over kill), CPU solid, chassis solid, ram standard, Vertex 4 solid, mobo debatable, GPU debatable, cooling being a specialist field all on its own is not really up for discussion here. If I OC it will be 8%-10% tops (which begs the question why 3770K).

And of course how these components compliment and integrate with each other is another specialist field.
 
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mid tower is not solid dude, full tower is solid. Mid tower is for low end to medium end pc's but if your mind is made up it's all good :D

My g/f better gimme something sexual today, shopping for clothes :eek: ahhhhhhhhh blow job sounds good hahah, chat later bro.
 
killadoob said:
mid tower is not solid dude, full tower is solid. Mid tower is for low end to medium end pc's but if your mind is made up it's all good :D
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Nothing set in stone, that's why we discussing...

EDIT: Okay, so this one then??

My g/f better gimme something sexual today, shopping for clothes :eek: ahhhhhhhhh blow job sounds good hahah, chat later bro.
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Ja, in the store change rooms maybe? Isn't that after all what they for? At least, in the pornos I've watched that's what they for... :p
 
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Another question.

Who assembles it? Pcint? Rebeltech? Me?

Why would I assemble it though? I've stripped a machine or 2 in my time but compared to a techie that does it fulltime??? No contest...
 
I would assemble if i was you dude, honestly it's childs play but ask them if they can just in case. I find even if you are not a tech knowing your way around a pc helps when you want to upgrade or something and honestly it is plug and play. You can perhaps ask them to install the cpu as i see that as the only possible issue for a noob builder but everything else is plug and play, if you can plug something into the wall you can put a gpu in the port. Just remember if you choose to do it yourself do not ever force anything, you may need to use a little force but brute force means you are doing something wrong :D.

Damn she tuned me blind i can't bargain for a blow job. Guess she has a point LOL :D.
 
you are ivan, wow i would never have guessed you are ivan. Thank goodness you pointed it out.

Ok review time :D, sandman before i start dude do you want asus or are you open to asrock?
 
I have always been a Asus fan for years now. sold my Asus Z68 Board & got my self the Asrock Z77 extreme 4. What a great board. One of the reasons i went for it was it is such a great price compared to the similar spec Asus boards.
 
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