New Study Finds Low Interest In Blu-ray


dude... relax! This is not a personal vendatta! :eek:

nobody called you an idiot.

We are talking nicely about hardware here... having a little debate and chat... you don't have to turn it into a slanging match.

If you can't take the heat maybe you should turn your computer off and go have a beer in front of that big screen TV. Nothing is worth getting this upset over. So I may be wrong... or you may be wrong. If that is the case I will eat my words, but you don't have to blow a fuse over it. :rolleyes:
 
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So I may be wrong... or you may be wrong. If that is the case I will eat my words, but you don't have to blow a fuse over it. :rolleyes:

backing down after reading the snipit? oh, have another one...

Pioneer continues to prove to the HD world that Blu-ray is a viable mass storage device, with its announcement of a Blu-ray disc with 500GB capacity.

This disc houses a fifth more information than its 400GB offering which was only announced in the beginning of July.

The boffins at Pioneer have managed to cram 20 layers on to the disc, with each layer containing 25GB of memory.

De facto storage system

Speaking about the breakthrough Brendan Sheridan, Product Manager, Pioneer Europe NV, Multimedia Division, said: "With its strong support among the gaming, movie and PC industries, Blu-ray has become the de facto next generation storage system.

"While Blu-ray discs (BD), offering both 25GB and 50GB, are sufficient for users' current demands, we envision the need for a technology that can support far greater capacities as HD streaming in particular becomes commonplace and users build larger files of digital content."

Sheridan goes on to say that "The multi-layered method is compatible with Blu-ray devices providing a long term future for the technology and is more easily produced when compared to competing technologies such as holographic storage."
 
plenty peeps becoming ****** these days it seems ....... cut it out Keeper.
 
Why do these debates always have to turn into personal attacks?
Keeper, you like your Blu-Ray awesome for you! The other guys don't, good for them too.

I personally will not be investing R3000 in a Blu-Ray writer plus however much for a disc... My R250 dvd-writer & R20 worth of DVD's will suffice.

And in terms of movies, my humble 74cm TV & DivX DVD player serves me well enough.

Your remarks about "2000dpi scanners? 150dpi looks better, at 3 meters..." are so unecessary. No one's arguing that better technology isn't nicer we're just saying that price of Blu-Ray techology is not worth the gain.

Get off your high horse man
 
Why do these debates always have to turn into personal attacks?
Keeper, you like your Blu-Ray awesome for you! The other guys don't, good for them too.

I personally will not be investing R3000 in a Blu-Ray writer plus however much for a disc... My R250 dvd-writer & R20 worth of DVD's will suffice.

And in terms of movies, my humble 74cm TV & DivX DVD player serves me well enough.

Your remarks about "2000dpi scanners? 150dpi looks better, at 3 meters..." are so unecessary. No one's arguing that better technology isn't nicer we're just saying that price of Blu-Ray techology is not worth the gain.

Get off your high horse man

who the hell is talking about blu-ray writers? you arguing about backup and storage....LOL, get with it man...
 
There's no arguing with fools... Silly me for trying to be rational with one

A few years ago, I bet you said:
I personally will not be investing R2000 in a CD writer plus however much for a disc... My R100 Stiffy-drive & R20 worth of Stiffy's will suffice.
 
*erects Do Not Feed Troll signs*

DNFTT? err...read the definition of that again plz, i think you don't understand the purpose of your own sign....

Saying that because you feel ashamed you were wrong?

what's the bets? lets come back to this thread in 2 years time, i'm willing to bet that YOU, YOURSELF will be using a blu-ray player.
 
By then the next generation device will already be taking over. Never mind 50 Gb. By then we will be on 500 Gb discs. ;)

Wrong!
That's already being developed, and guess what, it's on the blu-ray Format.

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All the guys are saying is that not everyone bought into Blu-Ray and are at this moment working on bigger, better formats ..... end.

perhaps, a 500GB Format? how will they compete against blu-ray also having 500GB disc, and by that time, loads of people who ALREADY own blu-ray players

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Don't get upset when you are wrong...it happens to everybody..
 
You are wrong if you think this other format none of us have heard of is going to replace blu-ray, when by that time, loads of people will be already owning cheap blu-ray players, and using 500GB blu-ray discs. if you think blu-ray is a failure because it isn't that big of an upgrade over DVD, and too expensive, how is this "better" format gonna replace it unless it has a massive 1TB of storage and is half the price?

Facts:
People ARE buying blu-ray.
Playstation uses blu-ray.
500GB blu-ray (compatable with your old blu-ray) is in development.
Cheaper Blu-ray components being made.
Blu-Ray has become much cheaper in 1 year, than DVD has when it was released.
 
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yes, but lets take another example here.

The Bugatti veyron - Supercar or Epic Fail?


You need glasses if you can't see a difference my friend.


Have perfect vision with my glasses :).

The Bugatti veyron IS AN EPIC FAIL for most people. It's probably
designed for the super rich and for 99.9% of the world's population
its not a possibility when probably for the price they can buy
a cheap but new car/motorbike, a house and feed their family for a year.
I dunno, I think if I was on a tight budget I'd choose to feed
my children then buy a super car/bike.

However if the Bugatti veyron could only drive on certain Bugatti
approved roads (and only in SA, forget about taking it to North
America for a holiday, it's engine will cut out and there is no
hack yet), it takes 90 sec to start vs a normal bike which takes
10sec and it forces you to watch a Bugatti ad every time you
start (which you can't skip) and costs so much more - then
even rich people will consider it a fail. :)

Compare to a Toyota which will start immediately, play no
ads, can be used on any road anywhere and only costs
10% max of the price of the Bugatti and on top of that
achieves a lower but still such a top speed which will
impress most non-Bugatti-connoiseurs (ie the girl
on the back who is clueless and thinks HD = SD).

Also unlike the Bugatti Veyron the price of the BD is artificially
high right now. The same player with better features will
cost 20% of the price in 2years time. You won't find
a better Toyota ever - and a Toyota with the same
top speed etc.

However enjoy your equipment. Just because its overpriced
for most people, doesn't mean someone who spent the money
should feel bad. Enjoy it but for me the extra R28.000K
is not worth it when looking at Johnny Depp from 2m away,
although at 3m both images look the same :).
 
You are wrong if you think this other format none of us have heard of is going to replace blu-ray, when by that time, loads of people will be already owning cheap blu-ray players, and using 500GB blu-ray discs. if you think blu-ray is a failure because it isn't that big of an upgrade over DVD, and too expensive, how is this "better" format gonna replace it unless it has a massive 1TB of storage and is half the price?

Facts:
People ARE buying blu-ray.
Playstation uses blu-ray.
500GB blu-ray (compatable with your old blu-ray) is in development.
Cheaper Blu-ray components being made.
Blu-Ray has become much cheaper in 1 year, than DVD has when it was released.

FACTs:

We're facing a global economic slowdown. If the Americans are complaining
about the price of petrol and the fact that cost of living is rising, something
which was not as prevalent in the 1990's or even 2 years ago, I think
we can assume that any reports of less interest in an overpriced first generation heavily DRM'ed product can be believed. People are genuinely
in trouble, everywhere, in poor countries people don't have enough to eat,
in SA, people are having to sell off their assets/cars and cut back
heavily on spending. When faced with a choice of a TV for R20.000
and the cost of putting a young child through primary school (uniform, books,
stationery, fees, lunch and transport costs) I think I would choose
to do my duty as a parent first over some extra pixels I may see.
If I am so filthy rich then the point becomes moot I guess, however
most people are not so filthy rich and even a full HD plasma purchased
2 years ago for R500.000 would not be able to play BD back because
in those days HDMI and HDCP where not implemented in these big sets.

BD is supposed to replace DVD, but to do that, the prices of BD players
have to drop to the level consummers can afford to pay (sub R500), ie can your
gardener afford a BD player? If NOT, its not a consumer product
but an audio/videophile first adopter speciality item which cannot
be considered a replacement for DVD for a good few years.
 
Booooy howdy I tellya have you seen what them crazy scientists have come up with to play music on? They call them there contraptions a "LASER DISC PLAYER" and it shoots freakin laserbeams at plastics to play the music. Why do I need that when I can't even hear the difference? They say it sounds better but you have to listen closely to notice! That's not worth $9000! It will never catch on I tells ya!

My local music store has over 9000 tape and vinyl selections to choose from, but all they have in these laserdiscs at my store is 52nd Street by Billy Joel - AND I DON'T EVEN LIKE HIS CRAP. They say they're going to take at least a whole year just to get 100 other titles out. pfffft. only rich folk will waste their hard earned cash on this nonsense - it will never catch on!
 
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