New Telkom ADSL performance indicators

Average National Packet Loss (%) - 0.15
Average International Packet Loss (%) - 0.053
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More packet loss locally than internationally hmmm :/ Average international latency seems quite low as well, I would have thought the average international would be in the mid 300's.
 
latency

I agree I pinged google and yahoo and cnn and cannot get anywhere close to 300 ms
 
I wouldn't believe these to be accurate at all..

I've NEVER had international pings lower than 300ms.. or even 400ms.. but then welcome to shaped internet accounts.
 
Are those Telkom's pings... to themselves?

No way are international pings from residences or work on average below 300ms.
 
now is that international ping from your house to international, or is it from there melkbos station (Where the cable lies) to international??
 
How can local packet loss be higher than international packet loss? I'm sorry I smell a big rat.
 
Telkom liars said:
Average National Round-trip latency (ms) - 16.43
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Please!! Dont even go there you pack of lying scumbags. You know, i wouldnt be surprised if these guys could rob a bank in broad day without masks or anything and get away with it. Untouchable.
 
:D Icasa is mum on the issue :D:D Possibly as they are still meeting with Cosatu on the vodacom issue ...or is just because they are too stupid to understand what hogwash Telkom is feeding them....:mad:
 
Here are some international pings from UK to SA:

www.mybroadband.co.za
Minimum = 183ms, Maximum = 186ms, Average = 184ms

www.news24.com
Minimum = 158ms, Maximum = 162ms, Average = 159ms

www.kalahari.net
Minimum = 158ms, Maximum = 166ms, Average = 161ms

www.iol.co.za
Minimum = 159ms, Maximum = 172ms, Average = 165ms

www.webafrica.co.za
Minimum = 162ms, Maximum = 184ms, Average = 170ms

Don't see why SA outward ping times should be any different, isn't there only 1 cable?
 
That's such a load of tripe. I have never ever gotten a ping lower than 300ms...
 
t123 said:
Here are some international pings from UK to SA:

www.mybroadband.co.za
Minimum = 183ms, Maximum = 186ms, Average = 184ms

www.news24.com
Minimum = 158ms, Maximum = 162ms, Average = 159ms

www.kalahari.net
Minimum = 158ms, Maximum = 166ms, Average = 161ms

www.iol.co.za
Minimum = 159ms, Maximum = 172ms, Average = 165ms

www.webafrica.co.za
Minimum = 162ms, Maximum = 184ms, Average = 170ms

Don't see why SA outward ping times should be any different, isn't there only 1 cable?
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Well you're pinging from a decent connection to a datacenter. If I ping from a decent connection (server @ Internet Solutions) I get around the same pings to the UK and you get here :)

-bash-3.2# ping bbc.co.uk
PING bbc.co.uk (212.58.254.252) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from virtual3.rbsov.bbc.co.uk (212.58.254.252): icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=173 ms
64 bytes from virtual3.rbsov.bbc.co.uk (212.58.254.252): icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 time=183 ms
64 bytes from virtual3.rbsov.bbc.co.uk (212.58.254.252): icmp_seq=3 ttl=242 time=174 ms
64 bytes from virtual3.rbsov.bbc.co.uk (212.58.254.252): icmp_seq=4 ttl=242 time=173 ms
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In fact, here's my ping over IS Uncapped Express, anyone on SAIX wanna do the same ping please :)

C:\Users\Jason>ping bbc.co.uk

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.254.252] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.254.252: bytes=32 time=192ms TTL=239
Reply from 212.58.254.252: bytes=32 time=192ms TTL=239
Reply from 212.58.254.252: bytes=32 time=192ms TTL=239
Reply from 212.58.254.252: bytes=32 time=193ms TTL=239

Ping statistics for 212.58.254.252:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 192ms, Maximum = 193ms, Average = 192ms
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edit: It seems like BBC has super awesome peering from SA and excellent network infrastructure in the UK :)
 
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So how does that work? I get say 20ms local + 150ms international to SA, for a 170ms total. You get about the same in reverse. But everyone is talking 300ms+ international pings, so how can Telkom say local is 17ms? More like 150ms+ on local.
 
t123 said:
So how does that work? I get say 20ms local + 150ms international to SA, for a 170ms total. You get about the same in reverse. But everyone is talking 300ms+ international pings, so how can Telkom say local is 17ms? More like 150ms+ on local.
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Local is more like 50ms. Our pings to the UK are fast, USA is a bit more, this might only be the case on IS uncapped accounts though..

C:\Users\Jason>ping google.com

Pinging google.com [74.125.45.100] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 74.125.45.100: bytes=32 time=290ms TTL=237
Reply from 74.125.45.100: bytes=32 time=289ms TTL=237
Reply from 74.125.45.100: bytes=32 time=289ms TTL=237
Reply from 74.125.45.100: bytes=32 time=288ms TTL=237
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ICASA was contacted for comment but, despite numerous attempts to get feedback from the regulator about the problems surrounding the ADSL Regulations, they remained mum on the issue.
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They were having an afternoon nap! Sometimes the MyAdsl journo's are just so inconsiderate!

:D
 
I've got no idea what acceptable benchmarks are, but Average National Packet Loss (%) - 0.15 seems very high.

Can someone explain what Jitter (ms)? How is it measured?
 
I play World of Warcraft and on a shaped account I average between 800ms to 1100ms and on an unshaped account I get between 400ms and 600ms with occational dropping of packets completely.

I think when we connect via ADSL we get put on a low priority queue on SAT3. At work we have servers sitting at Verizon and we get around 200ms from there to the wow servers.
 
BBC pings.

Here's a SAIX shaped acc.

PING bbc.co.uk (212.58.254.252): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 212.58.254.252: icmp_seq=0 ttl=240 time=354.993 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.254.252: icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=353.586 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.254.252: icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=384.898 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.254.252: icmp_seq=3 ttl=240 time=360.571 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.254.252: icmp_seq=4 ttl=240 time=402.168 ms

It's the jitter figure that is most unbelievable
 
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