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Kung Fu Porkchop said:
I'm thinking about getting some upgrades for my current pc as it's limited by the CPU and the mobo, and I don't see anything on Carb that is drawing my attention. This is what I have at the moment:
  • Processor (CPU): AMD Ryzen 5 8500G
  • Graphics Card (GPU): RX 9060 XT 16GB
  • Motherboard: MSI A620M-E Pro (AM5 / DDR5)
  • RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Patriot Viper Venom 6000MHz DDR5 RGB

This is what I'm looking at:
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I could swap the CPU to a Ryzen 5 9600X, but I think the X3D would be better for me. Any thoughts?
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Okay you don't need aio for a 9600x, also you're going for B650??
Get an B850 for a scooch more. The 9600x is better for productivity, but the 7500x3d would be better for gaming.
 
Lupus said:
Nvidia isn't exactly great on drivers lately. I've not had any timeouts on my 9070, though it does at times tell me the driver has crashed and reset stuff which is odd.
Oddly enough the b580 seems more stable
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Yeah I get that a lot, too.
 
So, had to go the DDU route after this happened (again). If it doesn’t hold up now, I’m going to bin it and break the bank to get something new and shiny.

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The Voice said:
So, had to go the DDU route after this happened (again). If it doesn’t hold up now, I’m going to bin it and break the bank to get something new and shiny.

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So DDU eventually seemed to have stopped the driver timeouts but... then the WHEA 18 errors started. And haven't stopped. Spent a week now trying to get to the bottom of it, and troubleshooting pretty much confirmed that my trusty 5600X is finally on its last legs. It's done well for the last 5 years, but considering I've never OC'd it (no PBO, just stock CPB boosts), it annoys me that it didn't last longer.

So, GPU will have to wait. I was thinking of going the current-gen upgrade route, but because of the insane price of RAM at the moment, going 9600X, B550 and 32GB of DDR5 (because I'd have to replace them all) will set me back over £800. Managed to find a "new" 5600X on Amazon for 8x cheaper than the upgrade, so will just pop that in when it arrives tomorrow and soldier on.
 
The Voice said:
So DDU eventually seemed to have stopped the driver timeouts but... then the WHEA 18 errors started. And haven't stopped. Spent a week now trying to get to the bottom of it, and troubleshooting pretty much confirmed that my trusty 5600X is finally on its last legs. It's done well for the last 5 years, but considering I've never OC'd it (no PBO, just stock CPB boosts), it annoys me that it didn't last longer.

So, GPU will have to wait. I was thinking of going the current-gen upgrade route, but because of the insane price of RAM at the moment, going 9600X, B550 and 32GB of DDR5 (because I'd have to replace them all) will set me back over £800. Managed to find a "new" 5600X on Amazon for 8x cheaper than the upgrade, so will just pop that in when it arrives tomorrow and soldier on.
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well, that sucks...just 5 years of default use feels like plain bad luck.

Can you maybe poke around the BIOS and see what kind of voltages the motherboard was supplying the CPU? The old CPU should be fine for that, at least. Might be an idea to just update the BIOS anyway if you haven't in awhile.
 
Neoprod said:
well, that sucks...just 5 years of default use feels like plain bad luck.

Can you maybe poke around the BIOS and see what kind of voltages the motherboard was supplying the CPU? The old CPU should be fine for that, at least. Might be an idea to just update the BIOS anyway if you haven't in awhile.
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Been down that road already. BIOS is the latest release. And everything was running at absolute stock in the BIOS while I was testing, and it still randomly went straight to black screen and rebooted just by watching YouTube.
 
AM5 support is set to continue until 2029, so likely still Zen 6 and Zen 7 on the same platform, as long as you have a decent motherboard you can upgrade your CPU later, probably with 2 more options on the horizon.

Personally, I'll consider what's available toward the end of AM5 to extend the longevity of my system, if needed.
 
"New" CPU is in. Jeez, I forgot what a PITA thermal paste can be lol. Hopefully I have good coverage now, because I cba doing it again. Let's see if the new chip holds up. If not, will return it and bite the bullet on the upgrade.
 
The Voice said:
"New" CPU is in. Jeez, I forgot what a PITA thermal paste can be lol. Hopefully I have good coverage now, because I cba doing it again. Let's see if the new chip holds up. If not, will return it and bite the bullet on the upgrade.
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WHEA 18 popped up with the new CPU, so had to do more digging. Was either the mobo, PSU or GPU. Got lucky, and randomly decided to downclock the GPU... and it hasn't crashed since. Still have it undervolted, but it's been stable for a few days now. Should've gone back to what started all this with the driver timeouts, the artifacting, etc. Oh well, at least it still runs at stock. But, it's all made me itch to upgrade now, so have been shopping around for the following:

9800X3D
32GB DDR5 6000 CAS 30
Gigabyte B850 Auros Elite
Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro
Corsair RM850X

Will get that set up and running, and then go for either a 5070ti or a 9070XT when I can find another kidney (just the upgrade is already going to cost me £1100, and almost half of that is RAM). Yes, the 9070XT is a lot cheaper (like £300 depending on which brand and variant), but I absolutely hate Adrenalin now, so still on the fence.
 
The Voice said:
WHEA 18 popped up with the new CPU, so had to do more digging. Was either the mobo, PSU or GPU. Got lucky, and randomly decided to downclock the GPU... and it hasn't crashed since. Still have it undervolted, but it's been stable for a few days now. Should've gone back to what started all this with the driver timeouts, the artifacting, etc. Oh well, at least it still runs at stock. But, it's all made me itch to upgrade now, so have been shopping around for the following:

9800X3D
32GB DDR5 6000 CAS 30
Gigabyte B850 Auros Elite
Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro
Corsair RM850X

Will get that set up and running, and then go for either a 5070ti or a 9070XT when I can find another kidney (just the upgrade is already going to cost me £1100, and almost half of that is RAM). Yes, the 9070XT is a lot cheaper (like £300 depending on which brand and variant), but I absolutely hate Adrenalin now, so still on the fence.
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Has the gpu been undervolted the entire time?

A WHEA-Logger Event 18 is technically a fatal hardware error reported by your CPU core (a cache hierarchy or bus/interconnect error). While it usually points to an unstable CPU undervolt or RAM/SoC mismatch, an aggressive GPU undervolt can pull or shift power rail demands enough to trigger it, particularly on AMD Ryzen systems.
 
Lupus said:
Has the gpu been undervolted the entire time?

A WHEA-Logger Event 18 is technically a fatal hardware error reported by your CPU core (a cache hierarchy or bus/interconnect error). While it usually points to an unstable CPU undervolt or RAM/SoC mismatch, an aggressive GPU undervolt can pull or shift power rail demands enough to trigger it, particularly on AMD Ryzen systems.
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Everything was running stock (even had XMP disabled), and it still kept crashing until I removed the overclocks on the GPU (including the undervolt). Then everything went stable. I then added an undervolt again, and everything has been running fine since, albeit a bit slower. All previous BIOS settings (XMP, etc) have been enabled again as well with no issues.
 
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