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Generally you run the pc for awhile and get that cpu nice and toasty, I got it to around 65 degrees and it was 28 in the study.
But I think I let it cool down to much again
This is exactly what happened. Had you taken it out ASAP it likely would have come out smoothly. But yea, I usually replace the stock thermal compound with something better - both for temps and to prevent this sort of nonsense.
 
Can we get a few pics from different angles? Might help if we could see exactly how the setup is done.
Here are some pics I took. I couldn't find anything loose or exposed. Fiddled with each cable to make sure it is plugged in correctly etc.
 

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So I did some more tests, and I definity think it is some sort of short circuit, in stead of an internal MB problem.

Reason for this is that the problem started to get worst. At first it always felt at random, but it got worst to the point where it would happen when I tried running 3dmark benchmark, constantly.

By accident, I was annoyed after the a few attempts to sort it out, so after another trip, I shifted (i.e. bumped-shove) the pc case backwards to make room for something else (PC case is on the floor).

When I turned on the PC again and tried running a benchmark, it actually ran without problems. This made me suspect an actual short maybe somewhere.

Open upped the case, had a look around etc. and then tried running it with the case on my desk. I ran the benchmark a few times - no problems, then decided to do a 3dmark stress test - did it and the PC didn't short at all.

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Next I put back the panels and stressed test again - once again no problems occurred. I did a few more tweaks after that and each time ran the stress test, and no problems occurred.

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This in my opinion points to an actually short circuit problem, and not necessarily a MB problem (apologies ASUS). Now what exactly causes the short, I unfortunately still don't know - it could even be maybe a peripheral cable at the back being too tight due to distance?

So, I quickly made a little 'raiser bench\ for the case, to lift it from the floor, since I don't have space to keep the case on the table. I once again did a few stress tests and no problems have occurred (yet).

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On the one hand I am relived, but on the other I would sure like to know what caused the short circuiting to happen, since it can still technically happen.
 
One thing worth checking is the GPU alignment. I've had it before where the GPU wasn't completely vertical, it was at a slight angle. This meant that when you plug the HDMI or DP cable in, the cable is both in the GPU and touching the side of the expansion slot in the case causing a short. Aligning the GPU correctly solved it.
 
This is exactly what happened. Had you taken it out ASAP it likely would have come out smoothly. But yea, I usually replace the stock thermal compound with something better - both for temps and to prevent this sort of nonsense.
But that quickly? It was maybe an hour at most
 
One thing worth checking is the GPU alignment. I've had it before where the GPU wasn't completely vertical, it was at a slight angle. This meant that when you plug the HDMI or DP cable in, the cable is both in the GPU and touching the side of the expansion slot in the case causing a short. Aligning the GPU correctly solved it.
Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for this when problem occurs again.
 
But that quickly? It was maybe an hour at most
It's a heatsink, it's sole purpose is to dissipate heat. What did you think it was doing for that hour?

EDIT: That came out way more snarky than I intended. I haven't tested this myself, but an hour is a long time for a heatsink to dissipate heat from something as small as a CPU.
 
It's a heatsink, it's sole purpose is to dissipate heat. What did you think it was doing for that hour?

EDIT: That came out way more snarky than I intended. I haven't tested this myself, but an hour is a long time for a heatsink to dissipate heat from something as small as a CPU.
There was snark there :p. Yeah stupid pool interrupting me working on the pc.
Really didn't think it would go rock hard again after an hour, my cooler master paste is still viable after months. That thermal paste of AMDs is hectic
 
There was snark there :p. Yeah stupid pool interrupting me working on the pc.
Really didn't think it would go rock hard again after an hour, my cooler master paste is still viable after months. That thermal paste of AMDs is hectic
I think it's kak paste. Thermal paste does harden but over years. Maybe yours was years old so never really softened nicely in the first place?
 
I think it's kak paste. Thermal paste does harden but over years. Maybe yours was years old so never really softened nicely in the first place?
My coolermaster paste is still good :-) and it was still super easy to remove the cooler from it after years of it being on. This one was the stock paste on the stock cooler and it was roughly 4.5 years old :-).
Put on another wraith cooler + new fresh paste on the 5600 that replaced the 1600AF
 
My coolermaster paste is still good :) and it was still super easy to remove the cooler from it after years of it being on. This one was the stock paste on the stock cooler and it was roughly 4.5 years old :).
Put on another wraith cooler + new fresh paste on the 5600 that replaced the 1600AF
Yea, sounds like that paste just died bro. Should be good with the new stuff then hopefully.
 
So I did some more tests, and I definity think it is some sort of short circuit, in stead of an internal MB problem.
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On the one hand I am relived, but on the other I would sure like to know what caused the short circuiting to happen, since it can still technically happen.

Sounds like it could potentially be an earthing problem? Maybe try a different PSU cable and/or plug point?
 
Sounds like it could potentially be an earthing problem? Maybe try a different PSU cable and/or plug point?
Read about that also, so what I did was to swap out to a cable I know works, as part of the testing.

Also, during the stress testing used different outlets, no effect, i.e. the stress tests concluded successfully. :)

Using the swapped out cable on my old pc, will see if it also conks out after use.

So far with further use, new PC hasn't experienced the short problem again (touch wood....).
 
I have a question.
I am currently using an m-link 450 watt PSU on a very basic rig running an gtx 1060 graphics card.

Everything works fine but from. all my research I was told that a 450w psu is marginal.

I have an old server psu 750w dell 60 amp.
That i used to power a 40 amp charger.

I do not have the charger anymore and the psu is sitting unused.

Is it possible to use this server PSU to plug in Only to the graphics card 6 pin plug ?

Or will it interfere/blow my existing 450w psu residing in my pc. Or damage the card or mb ?
 
It will be tricky to wire but it can be done. You'll need to short the power pins to get it to power up seperately to the normal PSU.

It will also be extremely loud I would imagine, server PSUs generally spin those fans like nobody's business. Maybe sell it and your current 450W and just get a good 650/750W PSU?

Also, is your current PSU giving you issues? If not, you should be fine. What are the rest of the components - CPU specifically?
 
Sounds like it could potentially be an earthing problem? Maybe try a different PSU cable and/or plug point?

Sounds like this possibly.

Try running either a UPS/Multiplug with protection - with a voltage/spike regulator as well and check Earthing. Also check that the plugpoint that the pc is connected to is not "overloaded" with other connections like a Microwave (that is #1 culprit). alos check mainboard mountings are properly done (earthed to the case).

I've seen a lot of expensve setups get damaged by 'bad' electricity.

Edit: What PSU are you using? I can't seem to see it in the pic. Sometimes a low quality or lower Wattage PSU can cause random issues. But like you said stress tests ran fine so I doubt it's that.
 
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It will be tricky to wire but it can be done. You'll need to short the power pins to get it to power up seperately to the normal PSU.

It will also be extremely loud I would imagine, server PSUs generally spin those fans like nobody's business. Maybe sell it and your current 450W and just get a good 650/750W PSU?

Also, is your current PSU giving you issues? If not, you should be fine. What are the rest of the components - CPU specifically?
Thank you Spec is attached.
Currently the server psu start up whenever it's plugged into the wall.

Yes it's loud but I shorted out some pins advised by someone long ago and now the fan basically idles so can live with that noise.

TL story short:
I blew 2 600 watt psu's eventually figured out it was the wall plug that was faulty. Having lost a lot of money I could only afford an mlink 450 watt psu from matrix.

It seems to be ok so far I added a stronger fan to blow over the heatsinks, then i ran a graphics program rendering an edited video which works my card to the max.

Ran it for 5 minutes and the air blown from the stronger fan felt medium touching warmish.

It would be great if I can make the server psu work as my current psu is open to accommodate the big strong fan.

But if it's OK to use as is I guess I need to live with it as is ?

Running Adobe premiere and will do a few rounds on msfs 2020 and xplane12 now and then on weekends.
 

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Thank you Spec is attached.
Currently the server psu start up whenever it's plugged into the wall.

Yes it's loud but I shorted out some pins advised by someone long ago and now the fan basically idles so can live with that noise.

TL story short:
I blew 2 600 watt psu's eventually figured out it was the wall plug that was faulty. Having lost a lot of money I could only afford an mlink 450 watt psu from matrix.

It seems to be ok so far I added a stronger fan to blow over the heatsinks, then i ran a graphics program rendering an edited video which works my card to the max.

Ran it for 5 minutes and the air blown from the stronger fan felt medium touching warmish.

It would be great if I can make the server psu work as my current psu is open to accommodate the big strong fan.

But if it's OK to use as is I guess I need to live with it as is ?

Running Adobe premiere and will do a few rounds on msfs 2020 and xplane12 now and then on weekends.

GTX1060 uses like 120 watts or something. 450W is more than enough. Even overkill for that card.

If you're worried about heat then install MSI afterburner and undervolt the GPU. Then you can usually also do a slight memory overclock. At the end you'll have better thermals and better performance. Lots of guides on youtube.
 
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GTX1060 uses like 120 watts or something. 450W is more than enough. Even overkill for that card.

If you're worried about heat then install MSI afterburner and undervolt the GPU. Then you can usually also do a slight memory overclock. At the end you'll have better thermals and better performance. Lots of guides on youtube.
Really... that's good news I did see quite0 a lot of people on international forums that even for this old card a 450w psu is not ideal and some won't run it at all.

The card runs at 54 degrees max with full fan using afterburner when card is used to the max.

I just worried about someone that said a low powered psu will eventually fry your components ? And the fact that some said a 450w PSU will work but hard with a gtx 1060.

If anyone wants a 750w 60 amp server psu to swap for a 600w pc supply please let me know !
 
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