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Longboi said:
Imma try and see if some buddies can help with a used cheaper 500W psu that has 2 of those 6/8 pin GPU connectors ...

I'm running short on cash after paying child support for 6 kids.

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Sorry if I missed anybody.
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Unfortunately I don't deal in used parts at all - the cheapest new option is going to be something like this:

progenix.co.za

Cooler Master ELITE NEX WHITE Series W500 80 PLUS White ATX PSU, 500w — Best Deals at Progenix — South Africa

The ELITE NEX White is the dependable choice for entry level builders looking for a strong, reliable PSU. Capable of comfortably operating at 40°C under full loads, allowing for a longer lifespan even in warmer environments. Constructed with protective me
progenix.co.za progenix.co.za
 
Progenix Oj101 said:
Unfortunately I don't deal in used parts at all - the cheapest new option is going to be something like this:

progenix.co.za

Cooler Master ELITE NEX WHITE Series W500 80 PLUS White ATX PSU, 500w — Best Deals at Progenix — South Africa

The ELITE NEX White is the dependable choice for entry level builders looking for a strong, reliable PSU. Capable of comfortably operating at 40°C under full loads, allowing for a longer lifespan even in warmer environments. Constructed with protective me
progenix.co.za progenix.co.za
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Looks good.

I'll order one in a few days
 
The_David said:
250 Euros? Serious?
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The price says "starting at" and the heading says "Show all 10 variants", so I think that was the cheapest of the 9000 series, which is the 9600X. Price has changed a bit since that screenshot was taken.

When you click on it it disappears and says "no available offers".

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So small update on my rig, have been having blast with the games on it.

However, it seems there is a 'wonkyness' when it comes to the B650 and AM5 chipsets, but on random motherboards (or at least Asus and MSI).

Now and again my pc would, what I would call 'short circuit', i.e. everything would trip (mouse, keyboard, screen etc.) except the fans in the case which would all just go on full load indefinitely until I reset or shutdown/startup again. This seemed to happen at random, whether the CPU/GPU was under load or not - no real pattern - I just assumed at the time maybe there was a short (cable maybe) somewhere touching the case.

Yesterday, however, my PC did not want to boot up - not even showing the BIOS options etc. It would start booting, the LED of the GFX card would lite up (as well as the keyboard and mouse) but then would just die down again with no boot.

Fortunate, found someone with the exact same problem and board on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/z9sbfr/solved_asus_motherboard_b650plus_pc_wont_boot/

My BIOS is the latest stable version when I checked, so what I did was to switch my secondary HD from Sata 1 to the last one Sata port. Hey presto, now the PC at least booted correctly again.

However, when I tested the pc using 3dmark, every time during the test, the PC would go into the 'short circuit' as described above - every single time after a reset and testing out in 3dmark.

I stumbled upon this fix:

Note, this is for a MSI motherboard, but still for a B650 and AM5 chipset.

I have a wireless network card installed in my pc, where I connected the card to one of the USB pins on my MB, to access the BT of the card. When I unplugged this cable, all of the sudden no 'short circuit' problem when I ran the 3dmark demo.

I repeated this a few times and the demo ran without any problems. Next I ran some video compiling with Davinci Resolve to see if the CPU would trigger anything, but no problems occurred.

So, yeah, not sure exactly what the problem here is. In the MSI thread, 'motherboard tension/flexing' is suspected, in other thread it was just bad quality control from ASUS/MSI (people claim they got board sweepouts and problem was not there anymore etc).

I am going to test it further this week, otherwise I might contact Wootware for either a swap-out, or switch to another manufacture and pay in the difference.
 
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Okty said:
So small update on my rig, have been having blast with the games on it.

However, it seems there is a 'wonkyness' when it comes to the B650 and AM5 chipsets, but on random motherboards (or at least Asus and MSI).

Now and again my pc would, what I would call 'short circuit', i.e. everything would trip (mouse, keyboard, screen etc.) except the fans in the case which would all just go on full load indefinitely until I reset or shutdown/startup again. This seemed to happen at random, whether the CPU/GPU was under load or not - no real pattern - I just assumed at the time maybe there was a short (cable maybe) somewhere touching the case.

Yesterday, however, my PC did not want to boot up - not even showing the BIOS options etc. It would start booting, the LED of the GFX card would lite up (as well as the keyboard and mouse) but then would just die down again with no boot.

Fortunate, found someone with the exact same problem and board on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/z9sbfr/solved_asus_motherboard_b650plus_pc_wont_boot/

My BIOS is the latest stable version when I checked, so what I did was to switch my secondary HD from Sata 1 to the last one Sata port. Hey presto, now the PC at least booted correctly again.

However, when I tested the pc using 3dmark, every time during the test, the PC would go into the 'short circuit' as described above - every single time after a reset and testing out in 3dmark.

I stumbled upon this fix:

Note, this is for a MSI motherboard, but still for a B650 and AM5 chipset.

I have a wireless network card installed in my pc, where I connected the card to one of the USB pins on my MB, to access the BT of the card. When I unplugged this cable, all of the sudden no 'short circuit' problem when I ran the 3dmark demo.

I repeated this a few times and the demo ran without any problems. Next I ran some video compiling with Davinci Resolve to see if the CPU would trigger anything, but now problems occurred.

So, yeah, not sure exactly what the problem here is. In the MSI thread, 'motherboard tension/flexing' is suspected, in other thread it was just bad quality control from ASUS/MSI (people claim they got board sweepouts and problem was not there anymore etc).

I am going to test it further this week, otherwise I might contact Wootware for either a swap-out, or switch to another manufacture and pay in the difference.
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Motherboard is on standoffs and not perhaps touching something to short?
 
Okty said:
So small update on my rig, have been having blast with the games on it.

However, it seems there is a 'wonkyness' when it comes to the B650 and AM5 chipsets, but on random motherboards (or at least Asus and MSI).

Now and again my pc would, what I would call 'short circuit', i.e. everything would trip (mouse, keyboard, screen etc.) except the fans in the case which would all just go on full load indefinitely until I reset or shutdown/startup again. This seemed to happen at random, whether the CPU/GPU was under load or not - no real pattern - I just assumed at the time maybe there was a short (cable maybe) somewhere touching the case.

Yesterday, however, my PC did not want to boot up - not even showing the BIOS options etc. It would start booting, the LED of the GFX card would lite up (as well as the keyboard and mouse) but then would just die down again with no boot.

Fortunate, found someone with the exact same problem and board on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/z9sbfr/solved_asus_motherboard_b650plus_pc_wont_boot/

My BIOS is the latest stable version when I checked, so what I did was to switch my secondary HD from Sata 1 to the last one Sata port. Hey presto, now the PC at least booted correctly again.

However, when I tested the pc using 3dmark, every time during the test, the PC would go into the 'short circuit' as described above - every single time after a reset and testing out in 3dmark.

I stumbled upon this fix:

Note, this is for a MSI motherboard, but still for a B650 and AM5 chipset.

I have a wireless network card installed in my pc, where I connected the card to one of the USB pins on my MB, to access the BT of the card. When I unplugged this cable, all of the sudden no 'short circuit' problem when I ran the 3dmark demo.

I repeated this a few times and the demo ran without any problems. Next I ran some video compiling with Davinci Resolve to see if the CPU would trigger anything, but now problems occurred.

So, yeah, not sure exactly what the problem here is. In the MSI thread, 'motherboard tension/flexing' is suspected, in other thread it was just bad quality control from ASUS/MSI (people claim they got board sweepouts and problem was not there anymore etc).

I am going to test it further this week, otherwise I might contact Wootware for either a swap-out, or switch to another manufacture and pay in the difference.
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Gigabyte boards have always been good to me. Solidly built.
I has issues with Asus in the past as well.
ASRock is another solid option.
 
Lupus said:
Motherboard is on standoffs and not perhaps touching something to short?
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Had a look, but nothing seems to be loose and motherboard not touching anything it isn't supposed to. :(
 
Okty said:
Had a look, but nothing seems to be loose and motherboard not touching anything it isn't supposed to. :(
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Can we get a few pics from different angles? Might help if we could see exactly how the setup is done.
 
I tested the pc out again, no problems in the afternoon, however, last night after a boot I wanted to play a game, and just after starting it up the "short circuit" problem occured. Rebooted PC and then game loaded and ran without issues.

Later the night the "short circuit" occurred again after playing a low load game. :(

Longboi said:
Gigabyte boards have always been good to me. Solidly built.
I has issues with Asus in the past as well.
ASRock is another solid option.
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Thanks, I send an email last night to Wootware explaining my issues with the board. I have asked if I can courier it back to them and pay in the difference for a getting a Gigabyte B650-EAGLE-AX. Seems people are happy with the performance.
 
Longboi said:
Can we get a few pics from different angles? Might help if we could see exactly how the setup is done.
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Ok, will take some tonight, maybe someone can spot something wrong/weird. But at this stage I think it might be internal MB related.

As a side note, I read some people also recommended enabling Memory Context Restore for AM5 mobos in the BIOS. Did it this morning, and at least my PC now boots faster (normally) - usually it took a bit of time before the system component (GFX card, mouse, keyboard etc) would lite up during the boot sequence (something about the MB 'training' the ram timings or something like that before a boot).

Tested again with 3dmark (GPU test and CPU benchmark) and no "Short circuit" occurrence - but then again, the whole "Short circuit" occurrence feel almost random.
 
Sadly it happened:( trying to get the 1600af out of the mobo, funny thing is I left it running for about 4 hours, though I did turn it off for about an hour and got stuck having to sort out a pool issue.
It shouldn't have solidified that quickly though :(.
At least the 5600 is now in and I had a spare wraith cooler laying around. I'll need to get a proper cooler for this machine20241030_170131.jpg
 
Lupus said:
Sadly it happened:( trying to get the 1600af out of the mobo, funny thing is I left it running for about 4 hours, though I did turn it off for about an hour and got stuck having to sort out a pool issue.
It shouldn't have solidified that quickly though :(.
At least the 5600 is now in and I had a spare wraith cooler laying around. I'll need to get a proper cooler for this machineView attachment 1769069
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Pins still look fine from the photo.

Amd can be quite tricky if the cooler has been on for a while.
 
If that happens, what is the right way to remove it?
 
Düber said:
If that happens, what is the right way to remove it?
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Take it to a tech shop and ask them to replace the cpu in motherboard and say you dont know how.. if they rip out the pins its their fault hehe :P .. but chances are they updated terms to get out of that liability too.
 
Gtx Gaming said:
Pins still look fine from the photo.

Amd can be quite tricky if the cooler has been on for a while.
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Yeah I assume it'll be fine, there are no bent pins the system boots with the newer cpu and nvme, but man it took awhile to actually beepm
 
Düber said:
If that happens, what is the right way to remove it?
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Generally you run the pc for awhile and get that cpu nice and toasty, I got it to around 65 degrees and it was 28 in the study.
But I think I let it cool down to much again
 
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