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Ordered an RX 9060 XT. For me, this isn't exactly an upgrade, since I do have an RX 7900 XT, though I am not gaming with that machine. It will be a good, appropriate replacement. No RX 6000/7000 GPUs are available almost anywhere. Nvidia has an odd premium here... For me, it was either the Arc B580 or the RX 9060 XT 16GB. I took a long time to ponder over this option, but the instruction set won.

Heh. I have also decided to do a repair on the Vega 64 since my server is currently without a GPU. I am convinced where the short is, so I assume I know which cap is cracked, but Vega is a complicated design. One cap gone would mean that other caps are also nearing their end, which would mean some transistors are likely dead, too. Now I need to order some parts and do some reworking. There is an IC or two that I can't get here, but I don't think the ICs are harmed (but potentially are). Could be the HBM, but I can't do that work and say it is so; then it is a lost errand. Oh well, it's been some time since I did something like this, so it could count as practice. Served me since 2018, and I only paid R3 500.

Also, what is up with used pricing? Many hard sells that I have encountered.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Ordered an RX 9060 XT. For me, this isn't exactly an upgrade, since I do have an RX 7900 XT, though I am not gaming with that machine. It will be a good, appropriate replacement. No RX 6000/7000 GPUs are available almost anywhere. Nvidia has an odd premium here... For me, it was either the Arc B580 or the RX 9060 XT 16GB. I took a long time to ponder over this option, but the instruction set won.

Heh. I have also decided to do a repair on the Vega 64 since my server is currently without a GPU. I am convinced where the short is, so I assume I know which cap is cracked, but Vega is a complicated design. One cap gone would mean that other caps are also nearing their end, which would mean some transistors are likely dead, too. Now I need to order some parts and do some reworking. There is an IC or two that I can't get here, but I don't think the ICs are harmed (but potentially are). Could be the HBM, but I can't do that work and say it is so; then it is a lost errand. Oh well, it's been some time since I did something like this, so it could count as practice. Served me since 2018, and I only paid R3 500.

Also, what is up with used pricing? Many hard sells that I have encountered.
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Used pricing is nuts and is only going to get worse going on.

I think you bit the bullet at the right moment. I've seen people blame the stagnant performance increases year on year causing artificially high pricing on older cards. I was genuinely shocked to see some 1660 Super's go for close to R3k on the secondhand market.

I wonder if you could find a scrapped Vega 56/64 and see if you can harvest some parts. They might be hard to come by, though.
 
PhireSide said:
Used pricing is nuts and is only going to get worse going on.

I think you bit the bullet at the right moment. I've seen people blame the stagnant performance increases year on year causing artificially high pricing on older cards. I was genuinely shocked to see some 1660 Super's go for close to R3k on the secondhand market.

I wonder if you could find a scrapped Vega 56/64 and see if you can harvest some parts. They might be hard to come by, though.
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2nd hand market here has been nuts. You could pick up 1660s in UK for like 25 pound, here it's been R1500 upwards
 
Lupus said:
2nd hand market here has been nuts. You could pick up 1660s in UK for like 25 pound, here it's been R1500 upwards
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Randomgaminginhd has shown me how bad we have it here with GPU pricing.
 
For those with Nvidia RTX GPUs. Nvidia has now with driver release R590 introduced Optix 9.1. I assume this is why AMD dropped Redstone now. For those with RTX 50, expect your hardware to get a little bit better now.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
For those with Nvidia RTX GPUs. Nvidia has now with driver release R590 introduced Optix 9.1. I assume this is why AMD dropped Redstone now. For those with RTX 50, expect your hardware to get a little bit better now.
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Is this something more relevant to creatives or will it have positive impact on performance for gaming?
 
RogueTr00per said:
Is this something more relevant to creatives or will it have positive impact on performance for gaming?
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Both. I assume this OptiX release, or at least when it was planned to be released, is also why Nvidia took so long to introduce a CUDA 32-bit translation layer to work with RTX 50. In short, this is what Optix 9.1 brings to the table:

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OptiX 9.1 Release

OptiX 9.1 has been released! NOTE: support for OptiX 6 based applications has been removed from the driver as of R590. You can continue to use OptiX 6 by using the R580 driver or earlier. Here are the main highlights from OptiX version 9.1: Module creation can now be cancelled midway New API...
forums.developer.nvidia.com forums.developer.nvidia.com

OptiX 9.1 has been released!

NOTE: support for OptiX 6 based applications has been removed from the driver as of R590. You can continue to use OptiX 6 by using the R580 driver or earlier.

Here are the main highlights from OptiX version 9.1:
  • Module creation can now be cancelled midway
  • New API enables customizable application-side compile caching
  • Added pipeline global variables
  • Improved denoiser image quality
  • NVRTC support for cooperative vectors
  • Several new pipeline options for increased control & build performance
NOTE: there is a new pipeline launch params size setting that is optional in OptiX 9.1, but will become mandatory in the next major version.
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Non-RTX GPUs can't use this, their pipelines can't handle this, and they are in any case not supported by R590.

In addition, there is also new updates to Windows that improves things on Nvidia's side, but they are also working on improving things on AMD's side.
 
For those with AMD Ryzen 7000 Series processors. AMD have updated their latest Ryzen Master to support Ryzen 7000. Their latest chipset has also, seemingly, brought over optimisations they made with Ryzen 9000. I am yet to benchmark my 7950X3D, but I am curious to see whether there are any improvements in gaming compared to the 7800X3D. Don't expect wonders.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
For those with AMD Ryzen 7000 Series processors. AMD have updated their latest Ryzen Master to support Ryzen 7000. Their latest chipset has also, seemingly, brought over optimisations they made with Ryzen 9000. I am yet to benchmark my 7950X3D, but I am curious to see whether there are any improvements in gaming compared to the 7800X3D. Don't expect wonders.
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What do you use for benchmarking?
 
Not sure if this is normal behavior.

New PC with Ryzen 5 5600X and Asus Radeon RX7600 8GB Graphics Card. When playing Youtube videos the Win 11 task manager shows 100% utilization which drops to 2% and jumps back up again. It also shows temps of 45 - 50 °C. (Ambient temps would be around 28-32°C). It's the first time I'm using Win 11 and an AMD card.

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The AMD Adrenalin (?) software shows 10% utilisation or thereabouts.
 
Crusader said:
Not sure if this is normal behavior.

New PC with Ryzen 5 5600X and Asus Radeon RX7600 8GB Graphics Card. When playing Youtube videos the Win 11 task manager shows 100% utilization which drops to 2% and jumps back up again. It also shows temps of 45 - 50 °C. (Ambient temps would be around 28-32°C). It's the first time I'm using Win 11 and an AMD card.

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The AMD Adrenalin (?) software shows 10% utilisation or thereabouts.
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Chrome? Try with and without extensions. Also, updating Chrome and all drivers.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Chrome? Try with and without extensions. Also, updating Chrome and all drivers.
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No Firefox. No extensions. Seems to show similar regardless of browser used. (Tested Chrome, Edge & Firefox).

What's weird is that the Adrenalin software doesn't show the same spikes. Just the Win 11 performance tab.

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I'm just interested to know if the temps are normal. It's been years since I had a desktop PC. Haven't had any visual glitches or issues, so don't want to mess around with drivers just yet. Not even quite certain how to go about updating them. The Adrenalin software doesn't show an update option.
 
Crusader said:
No Firefox. No extensions. Seems to show similar regardless of browser used. (Tested Chrome, Edge & Firefox).

What's weird is that the Adrenalin software doesn't show the same spikes. Just the Win 11 performance tab.

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I'm just interested to know if the temps are normal. It's been years since I had a desktop PC. Haven't had any visual glitches or issues, so don't want to mess around with drivers just yet. Not even quite certain how to go about updating them. The Adrenalin software doesn't show an update option.
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My 5600x temp varies between 35 and 50 degrees, under normal loads. Stress testing increases temp to about 65.
 
Crusader said:
Not sure if this is normal behavior.

New PC with Ryzen 5 5600X and Asus Radeon RX7600 8GB Graphics Card. When playing Youtube videos the Win 11 task manager shows 100% utilization which drops to 2% and jumps back up again. It also shows temps of 45 - 50 °C. (Ambient temps would be around 28-32°C). It's the first time I'm using Win 11 and an AMD card.

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The AMD Adrenalin (?) software shows 10% utilisation or thereabouts.
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Hardware acceleration will let the browser use a tiny amount of GPU power to decode video...it's not even enough usage to pull the GPU out of its idle clocks on my PC.

I'd install something like HWINFO64 to check but I suspect a Win11 bug.
 
Crusader said:
No Firefox. No extensions. Seems to show similar regardless of browser used. (Tested Chrome, Edge & Firefox).

What's weird is that the Adrenalin software doesn't show the same spikes. Just the Win 11 performance tab.

View attachment 1870801

I'm just interested to know if the temps are normal. It's been years since I had a desktop PC. Haven't had any visual glitches or issues, so don't want to mess around with drivers just yet. Not even quite certain how to go about updating them. The Adrenalin software doesn't show an update option.
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Disable ambient mode in YT and check then?
 
Here is my 5600x/6700XT PC for comparison playing a video in Native 4K res. GPU seems to hover around 50%. When I had it set to 1440p, GPU util was 25% playing in fullscreen mode.

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My experience has been that AMD chips do seem to run hotter than Intel chips, for some or other reason.

BTW, my 5600x seems to be a pretty decent one. I am running -30 on Curve Optimizer on all cores (I did the 'per core' setting in Ryzen Master and it came back with the same results after an hour) and benching it shows it is performing above average. I still need to run a Cinebench cycle, but CPU-Z results are 646 (1T) and 4863 (12T) which seems above where these generally perform
 
@Crusader I see you are a few months behind with driver updates. Latest is 32.0.21033.3005 which you should be able to install via AMD Adrenalin.

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