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Brawler said:
Yeah need a board as well but you can pick them up very cheap both new and 2nd hand. RAM obviously is the main issue and I already have 32GB of good RAM. 32GB DDR5 is a fortune.

I've watched countless videos of 8700 vs 5700x and in Battlefield especially it seems like the difference is not 40%. Maybe 20% (but better 1% lows). 5800X3D is right up there with 9600x and 9700x so I am happy to spend less than half the amount to get similar performance (and accept dead end platform but I think 5800x3d is good for a long time still).
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The 5700x3D is a beasty so the 5800x3D would definitely be an improvement. My son is using my 5700x3D and it runs beautifully, glad I did my AM5 upgrade last year now.
 
People are making a lot of noise over AMD's announcements, yet almost none of the products are new. All of this could have been communicated via social media or press releases.

Good on them for extending longevity though, but I wouldn't trust any MSRP attached to a product that has memory. I don't think that the next quarter will be all too consumer friendly.
 
A bit annoying.

Had to RMA one of my a 32GB Gkill Ripjaws DDR3600 kits with wootware (I run 4x 16GB modules)

Their tests confirm that both DIMMs in the kit are faulty (purchased in August 2024)

But, it seems like they don’t have stock of Ripjaws anymore, so they are going to replace it with GSkill Trident Z RBG kit - same speed, timing, voltage.

Going to look a bit weird, but more “concerning” is that I could potentially have different IC modules.
Maybe it won’t be an issue, but Ryzen is quite sensitive to memory (5900X and Gigabyte X570), so really hoping that I’m not going to be introducing system instability.

A refund/credit is out of the question - that would be at invoice value - about R1400
 
_kabal_ said:
A bit annoying.

Had to RMA one of my a 32GB Gkill Ripjaws DDR3600 kits with wootware (I run 4x 16GB modules)

Their tests confirm that both DIMMs in the kit are faulty (purchased in August 2024)

But, it seems like they don’t have stock of Ripjaws anymore, so they are going to replace it with GSkill Trident Z RBG kit - same speed, timing, voltage.

Going to look a bit weird, but more “concerning” is that I could potentially have different IC modules.
Maybe it won’t be an issue, but Ryzen is quite sensitive to memory (5900X and Gigabyte X570), so really hoping that I’m not going to be introducing system instability.

A refund/credit is out of the question - that would be at invoice value - about R1400
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If I can allay your fears, I am running GSkill TridentZ's on my PC with a 5900X and I have had zero complaints.

I actually have slightly mismatched sticks - two are TridentZ sticks, and two are TridentZ Neo's - I had to force both to run at 3600C18 (The Neo's are 3600C16) but I can't say I noticed an impact in performance at all.

I will run a CPU-Z in a bit and tell you what IC's each pair has. Give me +- ten or so minutes
 
PhireSide said:
If I can allay your fears, I am running GSkill TridentZ's on my PC with a 5900X and I have had zero complaints.

I actually have slightly mismatched sticks - two are TridentZ sticks, and two are TridentZ Neo's - I had to force both to run at 3600C18 (The Neo's are 3600C16) but I can't say I noticed an impact in performance at all.

I will run a CPU-Z in a bit and tell you what IC's each pair has. Give me +- ten or so minutes
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Thanks.

I’m probably being more sensitive than the system will be 😁

But at least the limited life time warranty works - but it’s not something you really consider - will this product/line exist come warranty time.
 
_kabal_ said:
Thanks.

I’m probably being more sensitive than the system will be 😁

But at least the limited life time warranty works - but it’s not something you really consider - will this product/line exist come warranty time.
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For sure. Easy for a company to shrug their shoulders and go 'not my problem' and give you a minuscule amount (as in your case would probably be).

Anyways, slots 1 and 2 (confusingly it is actually slots 1 and 3 on the board):

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Slots 3 and 4 (confusingly it is actually slots 2 and 4 on the board):

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I dig the 5900X but 12 cores is definitely overkill for my needs. I am looking to swap for a 5700X3D or 5800X3D with cash from my side as I don't really use the system for homelabbing as much anymore. I feel someone else could probably utilise the cores more than I could.
 
PhireSide said:
For sure. Easy for a company to shrug their shoulders and go 'not my problem' and give you a minuscule amount (as in your case would probably be).

Anyways, slots 1 and 2 (confusingly it is actually slots 1 and 3 on the board):

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Slots 3 and 4 (confusingly it is actually slots 2 and 4 on the board):

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I dig the 5900X but 12 cores is definitely overkill for my needs. I am looking to swap for a 5700X3D or 5800X3D with cash from my side as I don't really use the system for homelabbing as much anymore. I feel someone else could probably utilise the cores more than I could.
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Ok awesome, so you have a mismatched but stable system 🙏

I just bought the 5900x at lockdown because I wanted a beast developer workstation.

But even for me it’s probably overkill, but the business paid 😀
 
_kabal_ said:
Ok awesome, so you have a mismatched but stable system 🙏

I just bought the 5900x at lockdown because I wanted a beast developer workstation.

But even for me it’s probably overkill, but the business paid 😀
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@_kabal_

So interestingly enough I decided to download and run OCCT for the fun of it and it appears that the Linpack test that it runs unearthed some stability issues with my RAM that was not being detected by Ryzen Master, Memtest86 or Windows Memory Diagnostic.

The only symptoms I had was that, every now and again I would get a crash in Palworld, but I put it down to it being an Early Access game and just overall pretty buggy so I paid it no mind as I haven't had any other issues.

OCCT gave me errors within three minutes of running it. I reset things to default in my BIOS (CO, PBO, RAM timings, etc.) and then slowly brought things up one by one. It seems that I can get it stable at 3333MHz but at 3400 it starts to give errors again. I've tried upping the voltage slightly, but for now I am keeping it at 3333MHz until I can find some time and sit down and test them stick by stick and see what's what.

It could be that 4x 8GB sticks is putting too much load on the IMC, or maybe I actually have a bad module, but further analysis is required. If I get time tonight or this weekend I will fiddle some more and let you know.

I just wanted to warn you about my findings before you commit to saying yes to a new pair from the retailer.
 
PhireSide said:
@_kabal_

So interestingly enough I decided to download and run OCCT for the fun of it and it appears that the Linpack test that it runs unearthed some stability issues with my RAM that was not being detected by Ryzen Master, Memtest86 or Windows Memory Diagnostic.

The only symptoms I had was that, every now and again I would get a crash in Palworld, but I put it down to it being an Early Access game and just overall pretty buggy so I paid it no mind as I haven't had any other issues.

OCCT gave me errors within three minutes of running it. I reset things to default in my BIOS (CO, PBO, RAM timings, etc.) and then slowly brought things up one by one. It seems that I can get it stable at 3333MHz but at 3400 it starts to give errors again. I've tried upping the voltage slightly, but for now I am keeping it at 3333MHz until I can find some time and sit down and test them stick by stick and see what's what.

It could be that 4x 8GB sticks is putting too much load on the IMC, or maybe I actually have a bad module, but further analysis is required. If I get time tonight or this weekend I will fiddle some more and let you know.

I just wanted to warn you about my findings before you commit to saying yes to a new pair from the retailer.
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So good news actually.

They contacted me today to say they had found a new kit of Ripjaws - it was sent out today and I’ll get them tomorrow 🙏🙏

But your findings actually mirror my research - 4x modules in Ryzen 5 not ideal, and it might be best to try not run at full 3600mhz.
 
_kabal_ said:
So good news actually.

They contacted me today to say they had found a new kit of Ripjaws - it was sent out today and I’ll get them tomorrow

But your findings actually mirror my research - 4x modules in Ryzen 5 not ideal, and it might be best to try not run at full 3600mhz.
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4x modules aren't ideal yes, but 4x the same modules aren't as much as an issue. I had 4x trident Z for 3 years without any issues. Though it was 3200mhz not 3600mhz
 
Lupus said:
4x modules aren't ideal yes, but 4x the same modules aren't as much as an issue. I had 4x trident Z for 3 years without any issues. Though it was 3200mhz not 3600mhz
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I think if mine were all the same IC then it wouldn't be a big deal, but sadly the TridentZ and the Neo's use different IC's hence why I had the silent instability that I mentioned above.

I actually got them running now at 3200 with tight timings and performance is slightly better than the 3333 JEDEC settings that the BIOS offered. 3466 ran fine but had OCCT errors after about 15 minutes.

Oddly enough 3200 boots, 3333 boots, 3400 fails to POST and 3466 posts again but I haven't done too much in depth testing thus far. 3200 and 3333 are the only ones that seem OCCT stable.
 
Could you guys please help me put together a mid-range PC / Workstation for 30-35K. It is for professional software, one is heavy reliant on CPU and RAM and the other GPU. GPU needs to be min 8 GB , but 12GB will be better. 32GB ram min. I havent built a PC in many many years and it would be nice if it is upgrade proof for the future. 30K will be better as still need monitor and mouse and keyboard. Can always upgrade but need to handle at least medium workflow.

A single supplier will be nice, e.g. Wootware. Preferably not the other one that starts with E and ends with a dumpster.

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RedViking said:
Could you guys please help me put together a mid-range PC / Workstation for 30-35K. It is for professional software, one is heavy reliant on CPU and RAM and the other GPU. GPU needs to be min 8 GB , but 12GB will be better. 32GB ram min. I havent built a PC in many many years and it would be nice if it is upgrade proof for the future. 30K will be better as still need monitor and mouse and keyboard. Can always upgrade but need to handle at least medium workflow.

A single supplier will be nice, e.g. Woodware. Preferably not the other one that starts with E and ends with a dumpster.

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The cad program needs an SSD with 5 gig free space

Your poor wallet
 
As far as I know Archicad benefits from good single core performance, so an AMD might be good here. How about an AMD Ryzen 7 7700X paired with an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8GB to fit in with the budget.
 
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