New weapons act in effect

[LazyLion]

A new law preventing the carrying of dangerous weapons during public gatherings and protests came into effect early this month, police said on Tuesday.

The Dangerous Weapons Act prohibits the carrying of firearms, knives, spears, axes, knobkerries, crowbars, hammers and nunchakus, Lt-General Solomon Makgale said.

"If the possession of a dangerous weapon raises a reasonable suspicion that the person intends to use it to commit an unlawful act, the person may be found guilty of an offence and liable on conviction to a fine or to be imprisoned for a period not exceeding three years," he said.

Makgale said that, as of January 2, it was a criminal offence for a person to carry an airgun, firearm, an imitation of a firearm, or any harmful and sharp object capable of causing death or inflicting serious bodily harm.

Possession of a dangerous weapon would not lead to an arrest if the person worked within law enforcement or if the weapon was used during religious or cultural activities.

Dangerous weapons could also be used for recreation, entertainment, legitimate collection, display, or exhibition.


Source : Sapa /ns/tk/ks/th
Date : 21 Jan 2014 12:34

 

[LazyLion]

This is an incredibly vague and problematic piece of legislation. It allows for too much leeway.
I have heard of cops using this to confiscate knives from people's cars at a roadblock.

 

[Ninja'd]

What if someone actually brings Jacob's machine gun?

 

[Arthur]

What if someone actually brings Jacob's machine gun?

Always a cultural or religious event.

 

[LazyLion]

What if someone actually brings Jacob's machine gun?

"cultural weapon"

 

[Electric]

Not to be this guy but why is there always a religious or cultural activities clause?

 

[MrGray]

And yet SAPS sat on their fat duffs watching houses in the West Rand being attacked, stripped and looted by rampaging mobs.

Laws are meaningless without intelligent enforcement.

http://www.looklocal.co.za/lookloca...--Private-property-attacked-in-Princess-riots

 

[Paul Hjul]

beyond being vague it is entirely redundant if it is applied properly

It is already illegal to carry a dangerous weapon during a gathering (which covers all public protests) in terms of the RGA - and I should know

so all that the Act does is serve as a beacon point for people who want to infringe on the rights of others to do so and this makes the vagueness really a licence to misinterpretation.

 

[2026]

There must be a rather interesting story to why the Lt. had to specifically mention nunchakus?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

"cultural weapon"

 

[2026]

beyond being vague it is entirely redundant if it is applied properly

It is already illegal to carry a dangerous weapon during a gathering (which covers all public protests) in terms of the RGA - and I should know

so all that the Act does is serve as a beacon point for people who want to infringe on the rights of others to do so and this makes the vagueness really a licence to misinterpretation.

I consider Zuma's penis a dangerous weapon, he should be arrested and the weapon removed.

EDIT: oh wait, cultural weapon... nevermind.

 

[Paul Hjul]

the RGA doesn't have an exemption for cultural weapons if they are made a reasonable condition to avoid violence so he really shouldn't be attending gatherings with it

 

[scotty777]

A new law preventing the carrying of dangerous weapons during public gatherings and protests came into effect early this month, police said on Tuesday.

The Dangerous Weapons Act prohibits the carrying of firearms, knives, spears, axes, knobkerries, crowbars, hammers and nunchakus, Lt-General Solomon Makgale said.

"If the possession of a dangerous weapon raises a reasonable suspicion that the person intends to use it to commit an unlawful act, the person may be found guilty of an offence and liable on conviction to a fine or to be imprisoned for a period not exceeding three years," he said.

Makgale said that, as of January 2, it was a criminal offence for a person to carry an airgun, firearm, an imitation of a firearm, or any harmful and sharp object capable of causing death or inflicting serious bodily harm.

Possession of a dangerous weapon would not lead to an arrest if the person worked within law enforcement or if the weapon was used during religious or cultural activities.

Dangerous weapons could also be used for recreation, entertainment, legitimate collection, display, or exhibition.


Source : Sapa /ns/tk/ks/th
Date : 21 Jan 2014 12:34

nunchakus!? I'm no expert but how many nunchakus have you seen in riots of late


Other wise, I suppose this law makes sense. If it's a peaceful protest, I don't see why you would need to have weapons on you.

 

[Electric]

Most dangerous weapon of all;

http://alcase.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/karate-chop-is-not-the-deadliest-weapon-in-all-of-karate/

 

[Wall]

no fireworks then?

 

[Wyzak]

Will an attempt be made to disarm them or will they just be shot Marikana-style?

I struggle to see how this will really change anything. Will this act also be used to arrest woman carrying pepper spray? Or kids carrying cricket bats on their way to a veld?

 

[Seriously]

A new law preventing the carrying of dangerous weapons during public gatherings and protests came into effect early this month, police said on Tuesday.

All other times are OK then?

Now I am confused!

The Dangerous Weapons Act prohibits the carrying of firearms, knives, spears, axes, knobkerries, crowbars, hammers and nunchakus, Lt-General Solomon Makgale said.

"If the possession of a dangerous weapon raises a reasonable suspicion that the person intends to use it to commit an unlawful act, the person may be found guilty of an offence and liable on conviction to a fine or to be imprisoned for a period not exceeding three years," he said.

Makgale said that, as of January 2, it was a criminal offence for a person to carry an airgun, firearm, an imitation of a firearm, or any harmful and sharp object capable of causing death or inflicting serious bodily harm.

Possession of a dangerous weapon would not lead to an arrest if the person worked within law enforcement or if the weapon was used during religious or cultural activities.

Dangerous weapons could also be used for recreation, entertainment, legitimate collection, display, or exhibition.

 

[Takkies]

Some civil servants are very intelligent people!



Not this one.

 

[RandomGRK]

Not sure how they are going to crackdown...

But I agree, if you are striking there is no need to take a panga with you!

 

[Fingolfin]

Pick a deity, based on your preferred weapon:

http://home.comcast.net/~ftm3/JHtB/FavoredWeapons.html