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so highflyer wants to keep the news server to itself and its cronies, i always thought the more people who knew about it the more fresh content one would get rather than browsing through the same ***** everyday.

either way it is neither here nor there my intention was not to stir the pot so vigorously - i apologize to everybody who got insulted in any way, shape or form
 
OK, can this thread please get locked.

To the OP Sparhawk, if you need help you have options:

(1) Search, your question has been answered a million times.

(2) PM someone, by reading posts in the Gen ADSL section you'll get an idea who knows their stuff so rather keep it to PM.

(3) Wait for an answer on newshost's forum.
 
Sparhawk said:
i always thought the more people who knew about it the more fresh content one would get rather than browsing through the same ***** everyday.
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If you're referring to the Newshost site, then yes, maybe more people will result in more NZBs being uploaded. But that has nothing to do with the news server. I'd guess that close to 100% of the content on Usenet (news servers) are uploaded by people not from SA. So basically, we have nothing to do with the content on the news server.

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I wish people would stop confusing Newshost with news servers. They are not the same thing.
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I would say that the OP should have perhaps done a bit of Googling or even searched this forum before posting this question, but the manner in which he has been treated in this thread by some experienced members, yes that's you Highflyer, is childish and frankly appalling.

The newsservers have been discussed to death on this forum and others. The information is out there. It is not a secret any more. It may well be the case that more people on there results in slower speeds and things staying cached for less time, but really people, grow up!
 
hj2k_x said:
I would say that the OP should have perhaps done a bit of Googling or even searched this forum before posting this question, but the manner in which he has been treated in this thread by some experienced members, yes that's you Highflyer, is childish and frankly appalling.
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Fine, let's take a look at the sequence of events. Bolded parts shown for demonstrative purposes.
Sparhawk said:
I did and got no response whereas generally here i get a fast response to questions i may have and if you have a problem with it tough titties!!!
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Highflyer_GP said:
So just because you have no patience to wait a bit for a reply you post it here? And then once you have things figured out you'll start bitching about poor speeds right? They have a chat feature too which you could use if you don't want to wait.
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Sparhawk said:
@ Highflyer_GP i am sure at one time in the far distant past you too knew nothing about something and asked questions that intolerant fools who thought they knew everything scoffed at your stupidity. I apologized already for posting in the wrong section - and as i asked this question on their forum a while back and got no response i tried here. As for a chat room i obviously missed that link on their site for i am sure that if i had seen it i damn sure would have used it instead asking for help from a schmuck like you!
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He was rude to someone else. I step in and point him towards a chat, and then he acts rude towards me. And judging by his join date, it's not as if he doesn't know how to search.

But yes Henry I can see how I was the one who initiated any childish behaviour </sarcasm>
 
Highflyer_GP said:
Fine, let's take a look at the sequence of events. Bolded parts shown for demonstrative purposes.





He was rude to someone else. I step in and point him towards a chat, and then he acts rude towards me. And judging by his join date, it's not as if he doesn't know how to search.

But yes Henry I can see how I was the one who initiated any childish behaviour </sarcasm>
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I am just saying that the moment someone comes on here and mentions anything to do with newshost or the newsserver they get shot down like they were asking advice on child rape or something.

I get that it would be better for all the people on the IS and SAIX newsservers if there were fewer people out there who knew about it. But the fact remains it is too late for that now.

I agree that the 'tough titties' remark was a bit silly, but I am sure I would have said something similar, had I been in his position.

Not everyone here knows everything about everything. Cut the guy a bit of slack, man.
 
hj2k_x said:
I agree that the 'tough titties' remark was a bit silly, but I am sure I would have said something similar, had I been in his position.

Not everyone here knows everything about everything. Cut the guy a bit of slack, man.
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It's out in the open, fine. I usually just ignore these kinds of threads. So why can't the poster just ignore the people who were giving him grief? Did he have to retort to insults and further expect people to help him? I only jumped in after his little outburst. Stuff that man, guys like this don't deserve help.
 
You guys do realise that by continually posting in this thread you're bumping it to the top of the list.

Ooops, now look what I did..:o

:D
 
Highflyer_GP said:
It's out in the open, fine. I usually just ignore these kinds of threads. So why can't the poster just ignore the people who were giving him grief? Did he have to retort to insults and further expect people to help him? I only jumped in after his little outburst. Stuff that man, guys like this don't deserve help.
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No way man. I am gonna have to call you on that as well.

Go and read this thread from the start and see how many posts it took for anyone to even come close to addressing the question that was asked!

I agree with GDiza. Just help the guy out already. I can fully understand his frustration.

Just as strongly as you feel about the whole NS issue and NOT wanting to help people out, I feel for the other side of the argument.

As for pointing people to the newshost 'forum' or 'chat room'. Please! That thing is the deadest place on earth. I would also not want to wait two days for my simple question to be answered.
 
Maybe because there is an ADSL ISP SECTION - this is the appropriate place to post - if you want a newshost/torrent addon ask the mods for a filesharing section - but dont sit and spam me with questions when you could have just used the search with regards to news host - there is a thread popping up every day its a bit much.

In the beginning I used to reply to them in detail , pm them help etc, but if people keep bringing it up its becomes tiring and well a pain in the ass.

gdiza said:
People have problems with WebAfrica or OpenWeb and post here... why don't I ever see you posting "Why Don't you use their forums?!?!"
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jsheed_sa said:
Maybe because there is an ADSL ISP SECTION - this is the appropriate place to post - if you want a newshost/torrent addon ask the mods for a filesharing section - but dont sit and spam me with questions when you could have just used the search with regards to news host - there is a thread popping up every day its a bit much.

In the beginning I used to reply to them in detail , pm them help etc, but if people keep bringing it up its becomes tiring and well a pain in the ass.
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Then just ignore them. No one is spamming you my friend.

I agree with Gdiza's assessment of you. If you don't have something good/useful to say then STFU.

You do not deserve the courtesy paid to HighflyerGP. He is cool oke, he has been on this forum for ages and often helps people with his comments/insight/directions. You, on the other hand, contribute nothing.

Edit: *Waits for thread to be locked due to the personal attacks that have occurred. I care not. I have made my point and stand by it.
 
hj2k_x said:
No way man. I am gonna have to call you on that as well.

Go and read this thread from the start and see how many posts it took for anyone to even come close to addressing the question that was asked!

I agree with GDiza. Just help the guy out already. I can fully understand his frustration.

Just as strongly as you feel about the whole NS issue and NOT wanting to help people out, I feel for the other side of the argument.

As for pointing people to the newshost 'forum' or 'chat room'. Please! That thing is the deadest place on earth. I would also not want to wait two days for my simple question to be answered.
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Dude, not once did I ever say I that I'm against helping people. But do it the proper way. Do a search and PM someone who appears knowledgeable seeing that this topic has been discussed to death. Or post in the Newshost chat if the forum takes too long, it might be dead as a chatroom but you get replies relatively quickly to any questions.

And yes the first few replies were not constructive, but he did not have to start being vindictive. A simple 'guys I'm sorry, but who might I be able to PM with regards to this?' would have sufficed.

We need a sticky or something, with rules relating to these discussions.
1. Any NS related questions are better suited to Newshost forum/chat.
2. If no success after x amount of time, PM the following members.
3. Assign members who are willing to deal with these types of queries via PM.

End result, forum = less cluttered. Bob's your aunty, problem solved.
 
Both of you are intelligent guys so please use your brains and just let this thread fall to the bottom, the question has already been answered.
 
Highflyer_GP said:
Dude, not once did I ever say I that I'm against helping people. But do it the proper way. Do a search and PM someone who appears knowledgeable seeing that this topic has been discussed to death. Or post in the Newshost chat if the forum takes too long, it might be dead as a chatroom but you get replies relatively quickly to any questions.

And yes the first few replies were not constructive, but he did not have to start being vindictive. A simple 'guys I'm sorry, but who might I be able to PM with regards to this?' would have sufficed.

We need a sticky or something, with rules relating to these discussions.
1. Any NS related questions are better suited to Newshost forum/chat.
2. If no success after x amount of time, PM the following members.
3. Assign members who are willing to deal with these types of queries via PM.

End result, forum = less cluttered. Bob's your aunty, problem solved.
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None taken. I see this as a constructive argument first and foremost :)

I don't know that I agree with you, however. I am not sure that one is sposed to smell that you are apparently not allowed to discuss anything to do with newsservers on this forum.

In that regard, to save future strife and threads like these, I think your idea about a sticky is a good one.

Then, if some noob still comes on acting the fool and asking stoppid questions you can burn him all you want :)

I nominate myself to be on the list of people to be pm'ed. Unlike some here, I don't mind giving help to others. I know you know I don't mean you Highflyer. :)
 
feo said:
Both of you are intelligent guys so please use your brains and just let this thread fall to the bottom, the question has already been answered.
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I think we are nearing a positive outcome that will help for the future.

Now when it comes to threads like this one discussing illegal torrent sites...These should be outlawed, no matter how open the owners of said sites are about what they do, justifiably or otherwise.
 
Ok I'm going to take the plunge and create the thread. Please let me know via PM about suggestions for a possible procedure that one should follow to avoid any such animosity in the future. Also please let me know who is wiling to provide advice to NS related queries via PM.
 
Why PM? If you help people through PM the next guy has to ask the same question again. I think rather have the answers in open forum.
 
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