Next-generation web browser in testing

I know I should download it for debugging but I dont know if I can. :o
 
Also interesting in this vein is that Microsoft offered help to the Mozilla Group in helping integrate Firefox and Thunderbird into Vista. Mozilla has accepted this offer.
 
We've been developing with IE7 in mind for a while now and I must say that compared to IE6 it's leaps and bounds ahead when it comes to fundamental CSS support (fixed layouts now work, etc.). It's certainly not perfect, and compared to FF and Opera its standards support is still really lacking, but I've found less need for CSS hacks and fooling around with JS to get IE7 to render a page in a similar way to Opera and FF.

The only problem is you still have to make your pages compatible with IE6 for at least a while, and that negates any benefits you may have seen were you to support only IE7, Opera and FF as your base browsers (you still gotta write hacks to get IE6 to render correctly, and certain features just won't work in IE6).

The UI on the other hand is a real pain to use, it's really unintuitive and things that were easy to do before now require you search around the UI to try and find where that option went.

Hopefully if MS can roll out IE to the majority of its Windows users we can start to rely less and less on having to make our pages compatible with IE6.
 
I've found the opposite. We have had to add change our code to accommodate FF. But it turned out the percentage of FF users was much less than we thought and the effort required to change the code just for them was too much, so we pretty much gave up
 
Raithlin said:
Also interesting in this vein is that Microsoft offered help to the Mozilla Group in helping integrate Firefox and Thunderbird into Vista. Mozilla has accepted this offer.
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They've obviously come to realise that they have to accept that a significant minority use browsers other than IE.

I can't find anything about IE7 that would make me consider using it instead of Firefox.
 
Never guessed this was about IE7, from the title I thought this was about some new real next-generation browser.
But this is a generation up for MS I geuss, its mile better than IE6.
I just downlaoded it, not much changed since Beta 3.

but its looking nice.

They also have exstentions now apparently, but its obviously not a very big feature. Does anyone know if there is a ad bloker I can use with IE7?
Or will it have to be a system wide adblocker to get rid of ads in IE.
 
mmm does anybody have a link to this pls ? can't seem to spot it on the MS site...
 
JStrike said:
I've found the opposite. We have had to add change our code to accommodate FF. But it turned out the percentage of FF users was much less than we thought and the effort required to change the code just for them was too much, so we pretty much gave up
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Normally that means that there is a problem with the standards support of your code, are you using css while following the guidelines? (don't worry - I don't claim to have a perfectly coded page..)

noxibox said:
They've obviously come to realise that they have to accept that a significant minority use browsers other than IE.

I can't find anything about IE7 that would make me consider using it instead of Firefox.
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Seconded ... MS should rather help develop FireFox and distribute it with windows instead :rolleyes:
 
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JStrike: As klips has said, it means that you are not following the standard in your web page development.

You might say but it works in IE. But you still aren't following the standards.
 
Suspersport is a site I know that doesn't follow standard coding. You can never get that site to give you programming info for a particular sport for however long they give the info.
 
As long as Mozilla still stays open source there is no problem with MS offering help.
 
Jongi said:
As long as Mozilla still stays open source there is no problem with MS offering help.
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Wish they'd help at Cupertino too. Feels clunky on a mac.
 
kilps : True, but I code to an accepted standard (IE). I love FF as a user, but as a developer I hate it. Until they start trying to get 100% IE support before whatever rubish w3c standard they wish to follow, I wont attempt to port the code again
 
JStrike said:
kilps : True, but I code to an accepted standard (IE). I love FF as a user, but as a developer I hate it. Until they start trying to get 100% IE support before whatever rubish w3c standard they wish to follow, I wont attempt to port the code again
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I hope you were joking, otherwise you should direct that flame to microsoft's door.
 
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