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Is there a Govan Mani in Jhb ? They always have good package specials on Nikon and Cannon cameras when I got mine they where cheaper than Game and Makro and I got more goodies with it.
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MisterBigglesworth
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On my searching for D3000 info, came across a review on the camera. Sheesh...pretty damn harsh review! Cant remember the link now...was by Ken something. He basically ripped it to shreds.
So you D3000 owners, is the camera worth it. Is it a good camera for someone looking for SLR...but not having the cash to fork out for top of the range? Just a bit concerned after that review
So you D3000 owners, is the camera worth it. Is it a good camera for someone looking for SLR...but not having the cash to fork out for top of the range? Just a bit concerned after that review
On my searching for D3000 info, came across a review on the camera. Sheesh...pretty damn harsh review! Cant remember the link now...was by Ken something. He basically ripped it to shreds.
So you D3000 owners, is the camera worth it. Is it a good camera for someone looking for SLR...but not having the cash to fork out for top of the range? Just a bit concerned after that review
Ken rockwell? He is not the be alland end all of cam reviews.
D3000 is kind of the next gen D60.
I have a D60 it works great for beginners and I have not been left wantng anything more as I am not serious enough about photography.
Here are other reviews:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0907/09073004d3000handson.asp
http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/nikon_d3000_review/
http://photo.net/equipment/nikon/D3000/review/
Ps Ken has sex with his D40... How does an upgraded model become worse than the original? New features and all that..... Silly ken.
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On my searching for D3000 info, came across a review on the camera. Sheesh...pretty damn harsh review! Cant remember the link now...was by Ken something. He basically ripped it to shreds.
So you D3000 owners, is the camera worth it. Is it a good camera for someone looking for SLR...but not having the cash to fork out for top of the range? Just a bit concerned after that review
I read his interview before I bought mine and chose to ignore it because he seems like a fuucking tool, he bitches about all entry level dSLRs and tells us how good his old D40 is(which is useless info for us as it was discontinued years ago)
There are other good reviews of the camera, only real concern on all of them is noise at high ISO(800+). Since I have had the camera only taken one ISO 800 photo and it wasn't too bad at all.
Besides that 99% of my photos have been superb, a massive step up from my Fuji S2000HD.
Its important to remember that this is an entry level dSLR. I played around with all of the others in the price range and found its user interface, ergonomics and build quality to be superior IMO.
Very happy with mine
koffiejunkie
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MisterBigglesworth
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I read his interview before I bought mine and chose to ignore it because he seems like a fuucking tool, he bitches about all entry level dSLRs and tells us how good his old D40 is(which is useless info for us as it was discontinued years ago)
There are other good reviews of the camera, only real concern on all of them is noise at high ISO(800+). Since I have had the camera only taken one ISO 800 photo and it wasn't too bad at all.
Besides that 99% of my photos have been superb, a massive step up from my Fuji S2000HD.
Its important to remember that this is an entry level dSLR. I played around with all of the others in the price range and found its user interface, ergonomics and build quality to be superior IMO.
Very happy with mine
Treat his opinions as such - opinions.
PMSL!
Yeah, thats the guy. Ok kewl, thanks for the heads up....he did seem like a tool
koffiejunkie
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Yeah, thats the guy. Ok kewl, thanks for the heads up....he did seem like a tool
He's obviously not clueless by any stretch of the imagination, but his writing littered with BS like this:
ken rockwell said:
I have a Connor hard drive that's 15 years old - still works like when I got it. I have a whole crate filled with audio tapes that all still work. Most of them spent many hours baking in my car in the sun. I also have a number of 110mm negs that are scratched and/or discoloured because I didn't store them properly.
ken rockwell said:
No, they used film because that was the *only* way. They didn't know they "could always scan" because there was no way to scan film.
While I agree that film still stands it ground, the problem with idiotic statements like these are that it discredits everything else he writes. To someone who is new to photography (which is arguably his target audience), it is impossible to know which of his statements is accurate and fair, and which are just BS.
Mier
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A word of caution regarding the D3000 bundles. Not all bundles include the VR lens. I've seen the D3000 + 18-55 lens advertised for R4999, but this is not the 18-55 VR lens.
BTW. Totally agree about Ken "The Tool" Rockwell. I have a D3000 and I'm really happy with it so far.
BTW. Totally agree about Ken "The Tool" Rockwell. I have a D3000 and I'm really happy with it so far.
D3000 on special @ Kalahari.net for R4852.
That is just with the 18-55 VR lens.
Dunno if thats a good deal or not.
http://www.kalahari.net/sale_normal/Nikon-D3000-Single-VR/42665/34759636.aspx
That is just with the 18-55 VR lens.
Dunno if thats a good deal or not.
http://www.kalahari.net/sale_normal/Nikon-D3000-Single-VR/42665/34759636.aspx
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ok, I guess that is because the 18-200mm you can zoom in so much more?
I still have my eye on the Makro special with both lenses for R6999.
SubliminalThought
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Rule of thumb states that you need around 1/focal length (take into account FOV multiplier) to get a sharp image. On longer lenses you need to shoot at a faster shutter and thus loose light. The VR/IS can let you shoot at a bit of a slower shutter speed.
Coupled to that, common logic dictates that when you zoom out further, any slight motion is exagerated as the arc length for the same rotation degree gets larger the further you move away from the center. So at extreme zoom lengths, you want to keep shake down to a minimum.
Lastly, big zooms bring a bit of balance considerations using them hand-held. IS/VR helps tremendously over the smaller lighter counterparts.
SubliminalThought
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Give me a faster lens over IS any day of the week. (I'm sure fast and IS would be great but generally they're prohibitively expensive.)
+1 for fast lenses, but I am a fan of IS. Never really had a steady hand.
aedro
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For a beginner, which one would you recommend, will be for normal family activities...
Nikon D3000 DSLR Twin Lens VR Bundle ---- R6 999
OR
Nikon D3000 Digital SLR Camera ---- R4 999
Nikon D3000 DSLR Twin Lens VR Bundle ---- R6 999
OR
Nikon D3000 Digital SLR Camera ---- R4 999
I also need a bit of help. I know next to nothing about photography. I currently have a 5.2 MP camera (basic cheap ones). I went to Makro and the salesman said that the D3000 only allows you to use the view finder and you cannot see the image on the screen until you click. Is this correct? This seems quite weird. Even my R1000 cheapie allows you to view the picture and then click. Is he talking nonsense?
Also, is the D3000 good or should I rather put in more cash and get the D5000. Bear in mind that I just need to to take pictures on holiday or with the family. Wont really be using it very often.
Thanks in advance
Also, is the D3000 good or should I rather put in more cash and get the D5000. Bear in mind that I just need to to take pictures on holiday or with the family. Wont really be using it very often.
Thanks in advance
It is a SLR camera, you don't see what you shooting on the screen. Only ones with Live view can do that. But even then its better to use the view finder.
It sounds like you should rather get yourself a point and shoot cam, something like what you have but maybe a bit better. It sounds like a D3000 would be wasted.
greg_SA
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Traditionally DSLRs (due to their design) only allow you to use the viewfinder, but recently some DSLRs are coming out with "live-view" which allows you to use the LCD for view finding.
I was very worried about this when I was looking for a DSLR, but after playing with a friends DSLR, and using the viewfinder, I was hooked - DSLRs have proper viewfinders (the little ones on a compact camera is rubbish).The viewfinder is really the preferred way to take pictures anyway... you can frame your shots and focus your attention much better using the viewfinder (well, me anyway). It also allows you take hold the camera much more stable, up to your face instead of out in front of you. I think using the viewfinder actually makes you a better photographer (if that makes sense)
So for me, haveing "live-view" isn't really an issue - I think it is something that will put first time DSLR users at ease, but probably won't get used thereafter. There are some situations where it may come in handy, like macro shots... maybe someone else can comment?
I'm sure you'll be more than happy with the D3000...
Regards,
Greg
On SLR's you don't shoot by looking at the screen. You look through the viewfinder because you are then looking directly through the lens. "Live view" was introduced so that people coming from point and shoots would be more comfortable but:
1) The auto focussing is generally very iffy with live view enabled and someone using live view will most likely be using auto focus.
2) The shutter has to stay up the whole time for live view as opposed to just a "snap" so it could mean more dust on your sensor.
The only real justification is when your cam is in awkward positions etc, but then one of those flip out screens would make it a lot more useful than live view with the normal screen on the back.
1) The auto focussing is generally very iffy with live view enabled and someone using live view will most likely be using auto focus.
2) The shutter has to stay up the whole time for live view as opposed to just a "snap" so it could mean more dust on your sensor.
The only real justification is when your cam is in awkward positions etc, but then one of those flip out screens would make it a lot more useful than live view with the normal screen on the back.