Notre Dame on fire

[f2wohf]

Every hot works permit I have worked on has a clear requirement to have a fire watchman, that stays behind an hour after the hot works have been completed.

This is because some works may have led to a spark that has ignited a source which has a slow burn that only becomes visible some time later.

it is common practice and stipulated in various fire policies.

So it is possible for the fire to have only become quite visible sometime after the works had been completed.

An architect from the French heritage agency said on TV yesterday that it has sometimes seen fires starting up to 8 hours after the hot works stopping and that it’s almost impossible to detect.

He was citing it as the reason for Nantes’ cathedral fire.

 

[buka001]

Where? I'm under the impression that no investigation has concluded any such thing.

And it's not all that far-fetched. The Notre Dame is of course a major target for an Islamic terrorist attack given its huge significance in Europe, especially for Christians. What greater success for Islamic terrorists then the destruction of one of Europe's greatest cathedrals?

By the way, the French foiled a plot by three Muslims 3 years ago: https://www.france24.com/en/2016091...er-foiled-notre-dame-terror-plot-paris-france

Chris the BRIT fails at English comprehension.

My sentence said ... The french Authorities CAN come out with crystal clear evidence ... BUT.

Future tense. Go back to school.

 

[SeRpEnT]

Every hot works permit I have worked on has a clear requirement to have a fire watchman, that stays behind an hour after the hot works have been completed.

This is because some works may have led to a spark that has ignited a source which has a slow burn that only becomes visible some time later.

it is common practice and stipulated in various fire policies.

So it is possible for the fire to have only become quite visible sometime after the works had been completed.

And sometimes such a fire watchman might end up watching the latest episode of GOT instead of doing his rounds...

 

[f2wohf]

The south and west windows are gone but the Rosace Nord survived. Of the three, this is the only one that hasn’t been restored and the glass dates back 800 years.

All the 12 and 13th century rosace are fine.

https://www.bfmtv.com/culture/notre...-l-orgue-epargne-par-les-flammes-1674129.html

 

[Nanfeishen]

Walked around the entire island again, can get to Sainte Chapelle but not close to Notre Dame itself. Rather sombre in the area, people all over but actually a tad quiet in comparison to other areas we've been this morning. Got to do a sound bite for some US reporters.

That scaffolding is going to be really fun to dismantle

 

[SeRpEnT]

An architect from the French heritage agency said on TV yesterday that it has sometimes seen fires starting up to 8 hours after the hot works stopping and that it’s almost impossible to detect.

He was citing it as the reason for Nantes’ cathedral fire.

Thanks.

https://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2015/06/15/cathedral-in-nantes-on-fire/

If again renovation related then they should come down very hard on the contractors.

 

[f2wohf]

I’ve seen over 11 million € of private and regional emergency funds have already been unlocked.

And 300 million € for the long term words by 2 billionaires.

That’s not even taking into account what the state (owner of the building) is going to put in.

Russia’s ministry of culture proposes to unlock some of its budget too and the 28 EU members launch a collection too.

I guess money will not be a problem.

 

[greg0205]

All the 12 and 13th century rosace are fine.

https://www.bfmtv.com/culture/notre...-l-orgue-epargne-par-les-flammes-1674129.html

This is... so close.

 

[Cius]

Arson of major landmarks is something I suspect will happen more and more. Drone technology is so cheap it is easy to attach an incendiary device to a smallish drone, fly it to a hard to reach but flammable spot, and trigger a fire.

 

[buka001]

I work in construction and will add this -

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

If arson is ruled out, it will be those damned contractors ...

 

[Emjay]

Arson of major landmarks is something I suspect will happen more and more. Drone technology is so cheap it is easy to attach an incendiary device to a smallish drone, fly it to a hard to reach but flammable spot, and trigger a fire.

Before we ascribe something to malice, let us rather cross out other, more plausible causes, such as human fallibility.

 

[Sinbad]

 

[The_Librarian]

This is... so close.

Looks like something out of a dystopian setting.

 

[f2wohf]

Arson of major landmarks is something I suspect will happen more and more. Drone technology is so cheap it is easy to attach an incendiary device to a smallish drone, fly it to a hard to reach but flammable spot, and trigger a fire.

Except that the roof is tin hence not flammable.

You’d have to make the drone enter the frame under the tin and start burning 12” oak beams.

 

[The_Librarian]

Remember this :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Windsor_Castle_fire

 

[greg0205]

Looks like something out of a dystopian setting.

Yeah.

It looks like the vaults had one job and they waited 800 years to do it.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Chris the BRIT fails at English comprehension.

My sentence said ... The french Authorities CAN come out with crystal clear evidence ... BUT.

Future tense. Go back to school.

'Can' is a modal verb that does not have all the normal tenses, best not to school people in grammar on the interwebs I've found, the odds are too high of getting schooled yourself.

'Can' typically does imply present tense or at the very least a finite timeframe or position, what you were looking for in this case is the word 'could'.

https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2013/07/01/can-or-could/

 

[buka001]

'Can' is a modal verb that does not have all the normal tenses, best not to school people in grammar on the interwebs I've found, the odds are too high of getting schooled yourself.

'Can' typically does imply present tense or at the very least a finite timeframe or position, what you were looking for in this case is the word 'could'.

https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2013/07/01/can-or-could/

Fair enough.

I can win the lottery.

I have won the lottery.

Which version has me smiling?

Context of my sentence is identical to the 2nd definition per your source.

.) When talking about what is possible in a given situation, or about an opportunity that is open to someone, use can or be able to:

...

It would be acceptable to use can in the first example, where a suggestion is being discussed

Is exactly what I did. Suggested that the French may find evidence that it was an accident, but it would be ignored.

 

[Solarion]

London still takes the cake with the Great Fire. It is suspected even today it was deliberately set on fire by people wanting to build new structures in London and do away with all the old. I think it was king James (history a little fuzzy) that warned Londoners for years that the city was a tinderbox about to explode.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

I can win the lottery.

I have won the lottery.

Which version has me smiling?

Both, if you 'can' win the lottery that's a definite, if there was any doubt of you winning you 'could' win it. Knowing that one will definitely win the lottery will surely make you smile as much as actually having won it.

Interwebs grammar lessons cut both ways too often of course, I should get off this topic before being schooled myself.