Nqukula enjoys double security

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http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,9294,2-7-1442_2070242,00.html

Even our esteemed minister Charlie is using private security firms... Shows the trust he got in the police force :rolleyes:


Johannesburg - Safety and Security Minister Charles Nqukula's home is protected 24/7 both by the police and a private security firm, and yet he has told people who whinge about crime to leave the country. So says Jack Bloom, DA MPC in the Gauteng legislature and resident of a neighbouring suburb.

Bloom said in a statement that it cost Nqukula's neighbours in a security village in Bruma more than R25 000 a month for a private security firm to protect the neighbourhood, where access is restricted by a boom-gate. The boom is manned 24 hours day by Top Security.

Nqukula's neighbours each have to fork out about R300 a month to the security company.

But Nqukula, who enjoys round-the-clock protection, has not paid a cent for this privilege since he moved into the suburb 18 months ago.
 
Personally I couldn't care less about the name being wrong.... But its pathetic that he gets his home protected by the Police AND a private security company. Why is he so special that he gets a special police guard?. what is he afraid of?
 
Bottom line is that Nqakula and his missus stole R300 000 from the SA public and are mere criminals themselves, they should be in jail, finish and klaar.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Personally I couldn't care less about the name being wrong.... But its pathetic that he gets his home protected by the Police AND a private security company. Why is he so special that he gets a special police guard?. what is he afraid of?
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He is afraid that the perception of crime might reach him
 
It's a translation of a story in Beeld. Also, if I had to use spelling and grammar mistakes to determine accuracy then a lot of your arguments would be completely left-field.

You make a logical misstep in interpreting a small flaw in presentation to determine the accuracy of the subject matter.
 
Leitmotif said:
It's a translation of a story in Beeld. Also, if I had to use spelling and grammar mistakes to determine accuracy then a lot of your arguments would be completely left-field.

You make a logical misstep in interpreting a small flaw in presentation to determine the accuracy of the subject matter.
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The article should not be dismissed on a spelling mistake, but it does point to laziness or carelessness on the journalist's part which creates doubt about whatever they are saying. It is unprofessional and sadly common place.

On topic: I feel that our government ministers should set the example. They say crime is not out of control and that people don't live in fear, so they should live in ordinary house with no more security that a single lock on the door etc...

Anything else is hypocritical, but we all know that story.
 
Leitmotif said:
You make a logical misstep in interpreting a small flaw in presentation to determine the accuracy of the subject matter.
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Maybe it is just my feeling. I can accept a spelling error in a presentation but I get shocked by a spelling error in a subject/title of a presentation.

I guess, I'll get used to it with time.
 
When it comes to matters of housing, what tabs does the state pickup?

Cause clearly the issue here is not that he mistrust the SAPS but that he happens to stay in a boomed suburb. So the real questions are: (i) is it the state that is paying the R300pm, and (ii) is that payment within what is provided for by whatever legislation relates to ministers?
 
Jongi said:
When it comes to matters of housing, what tabs does the state pickup?

Cause clearly the issue here is not that he mistrust the SAPS but that he happens to stay in a boomed suburb. So the real questions are: (i) is it the state that is paying the R300pm, and (ii) is that payment within what is provided for by whatever legislation relates to ministers?
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and iii) why does he have SAPS protection as well
 
On iii, I imagine that it is protocol that a minister is always protected by the SAPS as there is accountability to the state should something go wrong.
 
Jongi said:
On iii, I imagine that it is protocol that a minister is always protected by the SAPS as there is accountability to the state should something go wrong.
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I don't see the need or point of that. Are government ministers not just regular civilians that have chose pubic service? Why should they get personal police protection?
 
icyrus said:
I don't see the need or point of that. Are government ministers not just regular civilians that have chose pubic service? Why should they get personal police protection?
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Because in South Africa all the commrades got equal status MP's + President included :D
 
Well if he is entitled to SAPS protection then so am I because I pay his salary. One of these days I think i'm going to get creative with my taxes and deduct percentages based on the wastage from guavamint.
 
icyrus said:
I don't see the need or point of that. Are government ministers not just regular civilians that have chose pubic service? Why should they get personal police protection?
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Using the same arguement does the leader of any country have more right to personal protection from one of the arms of the state? No. But there is no country that does not provide its leader that. I suspect most countries do the same for their ministers.
 
Jongi : point being, these people spout this nonsense about crime not being out of control, etc etc etc... but they have bodyguards, and police protection and private security companies..... Until they live the same lives as the rest of the population they should NOT speak. We can't afford the waste of resources, and their lives are not in danger...
 
Their lives would be in danger is some of the families of victims found them unattended. Very much in danger indeed. They recognise this personal danger, but it's not politically expedient to recognise crime as being out of control...
 
Jongi said:
Using the same arguement does the leader of any country have more right to personal protection from one of the arms of the state? No. But there is no country that does not provide its leader that. I suspect most countries do the same for their ministers.
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Nelson Mandela flew by public aircraft, only took on half his alloted protection personnel and today only has a very small security detail. If anyone was a potential target, it was him.

Most countries have a specialised units assigned to the head of state's protection. In most countries the ministers do not have a large contingent of Secret Service agents protecting them. They also travel by regular car instead of a high speed, elaborate and costly travelcade. In SA, however, the gravy really flows. 24x7 SAPS protection, Secret Service Agents, Metro Police accompanied convoys and private security firms all paid for by The SA tax payer. Just another **** you from the SA government. And every time they talk in public there is a massive SAPS sweeping operation before anyone gets to the venue.

One has to wonder, wtf are these [-]monkeys[/-] baboons afraid of?
 
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