Nuclear power does makes sense, if you understand data

@47Ronin You make sound arguments I will agree. The problem as i see it apart from the "30% staffers", and our government is external factors.

If it goes wrong for a multitude of reasons its not like cleaning up an oil spill. Suffice to say even if we had a calm and technically astute society like Japan its still worrying. They still trying to clear debris from the fukushima reactors.
 
@47Ronin You make sound arguments I will agree. The problem as i see it apart from the "30% staffers", and our government is external factors.

If it goes wrong for a multitude of reasons its not like cleaning up an oil spill. Suffice to say even if we had a calm and technically astute society like Japan its still worrying. They still trying to clear debris from the fukushima reactors.
Unfortunately, it is a reality that Eskom is blatantly corrupt and this will not change. Even if South Africans elect a new government, this will not change. That said, we already have a nuclear power station. It is surviving even now. So we may have a problem eventually.

The bigger problem is staying globally competitive. Love or hate Eskom, without Eskom we don't have an economy, food storage, healthcare and the list goes on. So we are between the devil and the deep blue sea.

Now think selfishly, yes you want a strong economy, yes you want a modern lifestyle and yes you want a functioning country.

Can things go wrong? Yes it will. But does it matter?

I say this very carefully because I do understand that nuclear fallout needs more than a mop and water. But truth be told, it is simply not our responsibility. As scary as it sounds, we need to power our economy. Because without power we don't have an economy, nor will we have a country. Truth is, we take a risk regardless.

Green energy offer a lot of promise but even now our municipalities are imposing and enforcing new municipal laws to make solar unaffordable, thus unsustainable for the public. In closing solar will become unsustainable for South Africans, that unsustainability will be artificial, but we will still be subject to it. So why lose your own money on this? Let them build the power stations and worry about what happens next. It is simply not our problem.
 
Unfortunately, it is a reality that Eskom is blatantly corrupt and this will not change. Even if South Africans elect a new government, this will not change. That said, we already have a nuclear power station. It is surviving even now. So we may have a problem eventually.

The bigger problem is staying globally competitive. Love or hate Eskom, without Eskom we don't have an economy, food storage, healthcare and the list goes on. So we are between the devil and the deep blue sea.

Now think selfishly, yes you want a strong economy, yes you want a modern lifestyle and yes you want a functioning country.

Can things go wrong? Yes it will. But does it matter?

I say this very carefully because I do understand that nuclear fallout needs more than a mop and water. But truth be told, it is simply not our responsibility. As scary as it sounds, we need to power our economy. Because without power we don't have an economy, nor will we have a country. Truth is, we take a risk regardless.

Green energy offer a lot of promise but even now our municipalities are imposing and enforcing new municipal laws to make solar unaffordable, thus unsustainable for the public. In closing solar will become unsustainable for South Africans, that unsustainability will be artificial, but we will still be subject to it. So why lose your own money on this? Let them build the power stations and worry about what happens next. It is simply not our problem.
The only problem I have with external companies building stations is that its not 'kak on their voorstoep'. If something does go wrong essentially they can raise their hands and say sorry. Its not like you can line their executives up and execute them.

One would assume then to mitigate this then 3rd party access would need to perform mandatory and consistent checks. Who would do this?
 
The waste is not the same.

What would you rather have on your kitchen floor: 1kg of crumpled paper or 20g of human faeces? The paper is more waste, but the shít is a much bigger headache.
Lead and Cadmium are toxic to humans as well and far more of it is released with solar panel creation vs nuclear waste. It also doesn't get less toxic ever
More radiation is pumped into the air from coal power stations in one year then an entire nuclear plants life time. All HLW which is waste that will be radioactive over 30 years in the entire world will fill a football pitch this is after 70 years.
 
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The waste is not the same.

What would you rather have on your kitchen floor: 1kg of crumpled paper or 20g of human faeces? The paper is more waste, but the shít is a much bigger headache.
I understand your concern about Nuclear waste. It is scarier than a fresh nappy from a one-month-old baby, and it smells so bad you don't know if you will ever be able to forget it.

Truth is nuclear waste will degrade with time as seen with Chernobyl. Yes, it is still radio active, but for the most part it is safe after 36 years. Some poisons solar will generate will retain its toxicity indefinitely.

Apart from hydropower, there aren't many ways to generate power cleanly. That said, Eskom can deal with Eskom problems. They want to monopolize power generation, so let them deal with their own problems. Remember, they are keeping the private sector out of power generation, so why should the private sector concern itself with Eskom's problems.

Eskom created this crap-storm, let them deal with it.
 
I understand your concern about Nuclear waste. It is scarier than a fresh nappy from a one-month-old baby, and it smells so bad you don't know if you will ever be able to forget it.

Truth is nuclear waste will degrade with time as seen with Chernobyl. Yes, it is still radio active, but for the most part it is safe after 36 years. Some poisons solar will generate will retain its toxicity indefinitely.

Apart from hydropower, there aren't many ways to generate power cleanly. That said, Eskom can deal with Eskom problems. They want to monopolize power generation, so let them deal with their own problems. Remember, they are keeping the private sector out of power generation, so why should the private sector concern itself with Eskom's problems.

Eskom created this crap-storm, let them deal with it.
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Ask SpaceX to launch all the nuclear waste into the sun. They can do so twice a week, easy.
 
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Yeah that journalist is a little biased in her views, seems to be more geared towards the greenie side

Also can't find anyone else saying 1 million years.
 
Yeah that journalist is a little biased in her views, seems to be more geared towards the greenie side

Also can't find anyone else saying 1 million years.
Does it matter?

They mention 100000 years in this one:
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Anyway, who's going to decommission Koeberg when it's EOL?
 
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