Nvidia Release Geforce GTX 580

It has to fit into the 300watts power usage limit, for it to fit into the PCI-E standards, any thing over and it won't be allowed to use PCI-E.

Bleh, still uses 384bit line, has 512 cores and not 480 core, 7% increase, and these things are seldom linear :p. Sure, there's clock increases, and also memory speed bump, but in most games, you'll only see 20% increase, 35% increase is probably something that's optimized (possibly something that uses tessellation) for this card/raw power.

I also have a feeling AMD now has got Nvidia by the balls, the 69x0 range just needs to be well priced and there's little room for nvidia to move :eek:
 
Yea amd have nvidia nailed to the wall big time. You could buy 2 6870's for the same price more than likely and thump it :D plus you would be using less power.
 
killadoob said:
Yea amd have nvidia nailed to the wall big time. You could buy 2 6870's for the same price more than likely and thump it :D plus you would be using less power.
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I'm not quit sure about lower power, we don't know what this thing will consume, but I do see it above 250 watts, maybe even close to 300 watts.

Also, you have to look at it this way, the main reason why you'd get a gtx 480 is because it has so much raw grunt, it's like a massive 10l v8... It also can be used as a secondary processor (well, you can by an Nvidia development kit, and program straight on it). This is attractive for certain applications. However, with the gtx 580, Nvidia has just made it better at playing games, but that doesn't really do their whole marketing CUDA any good. They running out of options and need to design something completely new if they want to be competitive...

I'm also worried about the next die shrink. AMD's current architecture looks as though it can make the leap. But Nvidia's might have the most disgusting yield, it's only on 45nm and the yields were truly crap.

However, anyone else think the power consumption on the next gen cards is a little too high? Like I just feel as though the midrange cards will need you to get a decent psu, which isn't cheap :(
 
scotty777 said:
I'm also worried about the next die shrink. AMD's current architecture looks as though it can make the leap. But Nvidia's might have the most disgusting yield, it's only on 45nm and the yields were truly crap.
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Nvidia & AMD both use 40nm die sizes...

I think AMD wanted to use 32nm but the yields were too low or something like that.

I would love to see a comparison between 2x GTX 460's vs 1x GTX 580 - both at stock and overclocked speeds - because the GTX 580 really looks like 2x GF104 chips stuck when you look at the specs.

One thing that also bothers me is that these high end cards still have fairly high idle power consumption values, and the same goes for the CPU's.
Most of the time, my PC's are idling.
 
Good performance bump for CUDA though. The high memory bandwidth in particular looks promising.
 
Pada said:
Nvidia & AMD both use 40nm die sizes...

I think AMD wanted to use 32nm but the yields were too low or something like that.

I would love to see a comparison between 2x GTX 460's vs 1x GTX 580 - both at stock and overclocked speeds - because the GTX 580 really looks like 2x GF104 chips stuck when you look at the specs.

One thing that also bothers me is that these high end cards still have fairly high idle power consumption values, and the same goes for the CPU's.
Most of the time, my PC's are idling.
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Sorry, wasn't thinking straight :p, yes, it's 40nm :p.
 
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