Obama supports ground-zero mosque

Do you support the building of the Mosque near Ground Zero?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 40.9%
  • No

    Votes: 22 50.0%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 4 9.1%

  • Total voters
    44

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This definitely isn't going to end well :erm:. Especially since the majority of Americans are against such a thing (and rightly so). The Muslims who are pushing for this are extremely insensitive... of course people are going to very emotional about this - do the victims' relatives really want to reminded of their anguish every day? In a perfect world - without emotion attached - this could go ahead... but that's not reality.

WASHINGTON – After skirting the controversy for weeks, President Barack Obama is weighing in forcefully on the mosque near ground zero, saying a nation built on religious freedom must allow it.

"As a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country," Obama told an intently listening crowd gathered at the White House Friday evening to observe the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

"That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances," he said. "This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable."

The White House had not previously taken a stand on the mosque, which would be part of a $100 million Islamic community center two blocks from where nearly 3,000 people perished when hijacked jetliners slammed into the World Trade Center towers on Sept. 11, 2001. Press secretary Robert Gibbs had insisted it was a local matter.

It was already much more than that, sparking debate around the country as top Republicans including Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich announced their opposition. So did the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish civil rights group.

Obama elevated it to a presidential issue Friday without equivocation.

While insisting that the place where the twin towers once stood was indeed "hallowed ground," Obama said that the proper way to honor it was to apply American values.

Harkening back to earlier times when the building of synagogues or Catholic churches also met with opposition, Obama said: "Time and again, the American people have demonstrated that we can work through these issues, and stay true to our core values and emerge stronger for it. So it must be and will be today."

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, an independent who has been a strong supporter of the mosque, welcomed Obama's words as a "clarion defense of the freedom of religion."

But some victims' advocates and Republicans were quick to pounce.

"Barack Obama has abandoned America at the place where America's heart was broken nine years ago, and where her true values were on display for all to see," said Debra Burlingame, a spokeswoman for some Sept. 11 victims' families and the sister of one of the pilots killed in the attacks.

Building the mosque at ground zero, she said, "is a deliberately provocative act that will precipitate more bloodshed in the name of Allah."

Sally Regenhard, whose firefighter son was killed at the World Trade Center, said the president had failed to understand the issue. "As an Obama supporter, I really feel that he's lost sight of the germane issue, which is not about freedom of religion," she said. "It's about a gross lack of sensitivity to the 9/11 families and to the people who were lost."

Added Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.: "President Obama is wrong. It is insensitive and uncaring for the Muslim community to build a mosque in the shadow of ground zero."

Entering the highly charged election-year debate, Obama surely knew that his words would not only make headlines in the U.S. but be heard by Muslims worldwide. The president has made it a point to reach out to the global Muslim community, and the over 100 guests at Friday's dinner in the State Dining Room included ambassadors and officials from numerous nations where Islam is observed, including Saudi Arabia and Indonesia.

While his pronouncement concerning the mosque might find favor in the Muslim world, Obama's stance runs counter to the opinions of the majority of Americans, according to polls.

Opponents, including some Sept. 11 victims' relatives, see the prospect of a mosque so near the destroyed trade center as an insult to the memory of those killed by Islamic terrorists in the 2001 attacks.

Source: Yahoo News
 
He could choose to pander to the fear and hatred or he could do something that will be viewed positively by moderate Muslims.
 
should not be considered as any more worthy than say building a giant 13 story swastika there would be worthy.
Because Hinduism is also a government system?

And which religions are not government systems then?
 
Quite unfair seeing how they lynch Christians in Islamic countries.
And you think fundamentalist Christians wouldn't love to do the same to everyone else? Are you saying we should be no better than these extremists?
 
Omama has not read the Koran, and thus shouldn't simlply parrot the Al-Taqiyya that his phony Islamic advisory provides him with. The common problem here is that the public is not aware of the fact that what Islam is perfectly mirrors what is to ve considered as a Governmental system, Islam IS a governmental system, and should be considered as such. And not as simply as another religion, and thus this mosque should not be considered as any more worthy than say building a giant 13 story swastika there would be worthy.

I agree... just look these muslim Americans...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Muslim_Americans.png
they are definitely up to something...
 
As the president of the USA how the fk can he be for this?

Ground zero is exactly that because of an attack in the name of Isalm. God be with Obama as the Amricans will go Ape on his arse :o
 
Huh?

You are aware that an Islam mosque has certain criteria that needs to be met right? No way a mosque will be in that building, if so it's not a mosque.

You don't know much about the building being planned do you.
 
If this is true, I hope some crazed lunatic takes him out.
What the f does he think?
He is completely anti Israel and completely pro Islam, serves the US right for voting him into office, I wonder if he will survive another term. :rolleyes:
 
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