Likely... didn't even think about that. Dive computers have been around forever so I'd imagine that there's an app for that by now. Good thought!
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Likely... didn't even think about that. Dive computers have been around forever so I'd imagine that there's an app for that by now. Good thought!
SauRoNZA
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Maybe it comes very natural to the two of you which is why you don't see it as technical.
Personally it was virtually impossible for me to breathe for extended period and resulted in monstrous headaches within twenty minutes.
Then there's the mask clearing and pushing out through the respirator. That's a highly technical process as you need to breathe correctly to actually have the air in your lungs to so it, it's all about timing.
Maybe you okes have done this too long and forgotten what it was like just starting out.
Part of the problem was the "throw you in be pool and put a mask on you" instant training.
PADI seems to be a quick cash in and not all that focused on really teaching people. Compared to the likes of the Navy Divers who I believe spend days training, not an hour in the pool and then out to sea.
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Wow. You must have had a really bad instructor. I spent hours in the pool before doing my first open water dive in a very controlled environment. And I had hours of theory lecturing before I even got wet.
Headaches - you were skip breathing (not breathing enough) - probably due to your difficulties. Can you honestly not breathe through your mouth with your nose pinched closed?
SauRoNZA
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Yes it was a rather rushed affair.
Obviously on land I can breath like that without blinking.
Which is exactly why I say it's pretty technical when diving because it doesn't come naturally.
Not Natural = Technical
It's a technique (aka technical) you need to learn and be taught.
There is no way you are strapping a mask to someone and dumping them in a pool without instruction that they won't be coming up in five minutes in a panic.
Even if this thing would give you adequate air for survival, what would you inflate your BCD with? Also, the basic concepts behind a tank and regulator is fairly simple and dependable. I wouldn't want to trust my life to a new device with unproven track record. Let's suppose that it does generate enough air - I'd still prefer to use this as an add-on to a full equipment kit.
Even if this thing would give you adequate air for survival, what would you inflate your BCD with? Also, the basic concepts behind a tank and regulator is fairly simple and dependable. I wouldn't want to trust my life to a new device with unproven track record. Let's suppose that it does generate enough air - I'd still prefer to use this as an add-on to a full equipment kit.
It's a simple matter of breathe in, breathe out. I'm not sure if it CAN be taught.
I also believe that if you tell someone that it is scuba kit and that they can breathe through the mouthpiece, they'll be able to breath without any additional training. Well, that was all the training I had on "breathing". Mask clearing, buoyancy control, safety... yes, but not much more on breathing as far as I can remember.
It's a simple matter of breathe in, breathe out. I'm not sure if it CAN be taught.
I also believe that if you tell someone that it is scuba kit and that they can breathe through the mouthpiece, they'll be able to breath without any additional training. Well, that was all the training I had on "breathing". Mask clearing, buoyancy control, safety... yes, but not much more on breathing as far as I can remember.
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Datura
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I don't want to be limited to a couple of meters. It is dangerous. With 30m limitations at least you have a safety buffer of a few meters but if a diver is breathing under water and 'hard capped' at a couple of meters it is just down right dangerous. Even at just a few meters, if you take a breath and the device malfunctions and forces you to surface with your lungs filled. Well, that just breaks the golden rule of diving and will in all likelihood not end well.
About all it would be good for imo.
There are loads of apps for diving. Most of them are super reliable but the casing for the device is where the problem lies. I will stick to my Mares Puc DC thank you
Yep, totally!
I love one of the previous posts (too lazy to go back and dig it up) about how he went through the training but had trouble breathing. In through the nose??? I know he rectified it but I still had a :wtf: moment when I read it hahahaaha. Thanks for the laugh...
And on that note, I am going for a regular dive tomorrow with regular (safe) gear that is heavy on the surface but part of my body underwater and will hopefully have a fscking awesome dive! No time for 'may work' gadgets that may not work at 18 - 20 m depth...
There are loads of apps for diving. Most of them are super reliable but the casing for the device is where the problem lies. I will stick to my Mares Puc DC thank you
Oh dear me... not for taking under water with you, but for planning your next dive. Like dive tables with drop down boxes
Yeah... I want to see an article (not even an in-depth one necessarily) where they resolve some of the issues I raised. All these sites look like click candy for add revenue. Renders of a product do not a product make.
Haven't been back in the cape sea's since coming back from Mauritius... don't think my wet suit fits anymore
Datura
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Oh dear me... not for taking under water with you, but for planning your next dive. Like dive tables with drop down boxes
You get those too but why not just get a dive computer? They do all of that anyway. You want a pretty GUI?
Drifter
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Come again? Your Reg is in your mouth, you cant breathe in through your nose.
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he corrected his mistake
I have seen many people struggle with the basic concept of just snorkeling, in a pool, or in the ocean on perfectly calm days.
They tend to rush breathe and completely panic with the slightest bit of water in the snorkel or mask.
Its about having faith in the equipment and your own ability really, both of which take a different amount of time depending on the individual. Same with a scuba rig.
I agree with Sauron its not natural for a lot of people.
My old man used to dive and when we were laaitjies still in the pool with water-wings on he taught us to clear a mask with a breath of air.
Datura
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Haven't been back in the cape sea's since coming back from Mauritius... don't think my wet suit fits anymore
I am going for a warm water dive this year (will be my first). 9 out of ten divers I know that used to dive in the Western Cape that after years of cold dives experienced warm water dives will no longer dive here.
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There is NOTHING like doing a 70 minute dive in just baggies and a BCD...
Completely different, I've only done fairly shallow dives around here, I'd imagine deeper wreck dives to be more interesting... I'm just tired of the silver fish, jellyfish, and occasional seal. Warmer water is an explosion of colour...