Official AMD Ryzen Reviews

[video=youtube;RZS2XHcQdqA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZS2XHcQdqA[/video]
 
Since I'm not in a hurry, I have the luxury of waiting for more reviews to pour in from technology websites and enthusiasts before I can spend my very hard earned money (I'm not ideal gender and color for ANC government) on some overpriced CPU from either of Intel or AMD.
 
Chevron said:
That's actually quite interesting. Especially the GTA5 result.
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Yes, GTA5 is significantly slower on a amd cpu or gpu in general compared to intel & nvidia so much so that I would not have been able to run all my mods if I had a rx480.

I would like to see others replicate & confirm these results which will be a good thing.
 
The Voice said:
Anyone have details on the Ryzen Windows 10 update he mentioned?
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Dunno, maybe it's part of the forthcoming 11Apr update which you can manually install now or would have received if you're on the insider track.

There was also a 720MB gta5 update a few days ago, not sure what that was about.
 
The Voice said:
The thing is this: we've had multicore CPU's for years now, yet most consumer apps and games still only use single cores/threads. Ergo, it still makes sense to go for the CPU with the higher core speed, and that's still Intel.

Ryzen was supposed to be AMD's comeback into the CPU market. For everyone who previously had to pay over £1000 for an Intel CPU to do the gruntwork, it's really good value, not disputing it. It's not only 1/3 of the price, its also a better product in many cases.

For Joe Average, like me and 90% of gamers, it fell a bit short, unfortunately. Ryzen 7 was brought in for people who wanted but could never afford the 6850k or 6900k. Those chips aren't meant for gaming. That's what Ryzen 5 will be for hopefully, but it won't hit the mark unless EVERY gaming company and hardware manufacturer gets on board NOW. Intel does what it says on the box, and it does it really well, tried and tested - right now. You don't have to buy an Intel chip and hope that it'll live up to the hype 2-3 years from now. You install it, and you're on your way immediately.

I'm not knocking AMD at all. I was really excited for Ryzen 5 (and still am), and can't wait to see the reviews and benchmarks next week. But if the current leaked benches are anything to go by, I'm going to have to go for Team Blue this round.
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I don't know why you say that. Ryzen is more than 50% the performance for 50% of the price. So unless you're really looking for the best CPU Ryzen seems the obvious choice. Like we've seen in the reviews it also depends on the game, resolution and gfx card.
 
ponder said:
Yes, GTA5 is significantly slower on a amd cpu or gpu in general compared to intel & nvidia so much so that I would not have been able to run all my mods if I had a rx480.

I would like to see others replicate & confirm these results which will be a good thing.
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GTA issue is mentioned in a later video.

[video=youtube;5GhoYs2VDns]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GhoYs2VDns[/video]
 
If anybody wants to use a single PC to do high quality game streaming, the R7s do present a very good option when compared to the 4 core Intel parts.

[video=youtube;oXeenX0FZAY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXeenX0FZAY&t=0s[/video]
 
Another video touching on the Ryzen memory issue:

https://youtu.be/G80uG3acg44

Sweet spot is 3200MHz? So in addition to having to wait for BIOS and software updates, one should also factor in having to purchase high speed RAM, or at least trying to overclock what you currently have. And then maybe Ryzen will do what it's capable of.
 
The Voice said:
Another video touching on the Ryzen memory issue:

https://youtu.be/G80uG3acg44

Sweet spot is 3200MHz? So in addition to having to wait for BIOS and software updates, one should also factor in having to purchase high speed RAM, or at least trying to overclock what you currently have. And then maybe Ryzen will do what it's capable of.
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I think the Hardware Unboxed video did a good job of breaking this down. Both AMD and Intel benefit from faster memory when it comes to gaming performance, it's not something specific to AMD - in some cases the Ryzen processors benefit more from the memory speed bump than the Intel chips but that's not a given in all cases.

You don't have to buy faster rated memory if you don't want to, you will get a performance boost if you do but again not specific to AMD.

[video=youtube;XOsYOASddeo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOsYOASddeo[/video]
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
I think the Hardware Unboxed video did a good job of breaking this down. Both AMD and Intel benefit from faster memory when it comes to gaming performance, it's not something specific to AMD - in some cases the Ryzen processors benefit more from the memory speed bump than the Intel chips but that's not a given in all cases.

You don't have to buy faster rated memory if you don't want to, you will get a performance boost if you do but again not specific to AMD.

[video=youtube;XOsYOASddeo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOsYOASddeo[/video]
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Ok cool, good to know. My build was delayed by quite a while because of finances being a bit tight. I've currently got two builds I'm mulling over, one i7 and one Ryzen, but waiting on the dust to settle before I make my final decision. All the info you guys have given has been really helpful up to now.
 
So Ryzen 5 reviews have started pouring in.

1600 and 1600x kill the 7600K and 7700K in productivity as expected because of the extra cores, but sadly still lag behind in most games. I guess a few more tweaks from devs and AMD may improve things.
 
^, it's hard to catch up with a decade of optimisation for Intel in a one generation. I reckon Ryzen will be a different mainstream proposition in a year.
 
The Voice said:
So Ryzen 5 reviews have started pouring in.

1600 and 1600x kill the 7600K and 7700K in productivity as expected because of the extra cores, but sadly still lag behind in most games. I guess a few more tweaks from devs and AMD may improve things.
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1600X = $249
7700K = $349
So it's competing with the 6600K/7600K.

Not sure what benchmarks you're looking at, https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-review-benchmarks

Putting the new Ryzen 5 up alongside the historical benchmarking data we got from our i5 7600K Kaby Lake sample and you can see the more modern 14nm chip doesn’t offer a huge amount more. While it can overclock like a hero, the 7600K isn’t going to be able to really push that far ahead of the 1600X’s gaming skills.

While you are still compromising gaming performance for multi-threaded power when it comes to choosing the Ryzen 7 chips over similarly-priced - or cheaper - Core i7 processors, in this more mainstream segment of the market that compromise pretty much vanishes. With the Ryzen 5 1600X you’re paying the same price, getting practically the same gaming speeds, but with the added bonus of significantly higher multicore performance....
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With its eight threads of Intel CPU performance the Core i7 7700K, and those which are to follow, might still be the best bet for top-end gaming prowess, but will always be another $100 (£100) on top of the cost of the Ryzen 5. And that makes a big difference from a price/performance point of view.


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It's an 1800X with two cores lopped off for $100/£100 less, and that makes it a far more important gaming processor. Up against Intel's K-series i5 the 1600X is essentially its gaming equal but with a whole lot more multi-threaded performance to back it up. For us, AMD's Ryzen 5 1600X is now the go-to gaming CPU for your next rig.
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Still waiting for more benches.
 
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