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AirWolf

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Interesting stat:
Ireland have 3 of the 6 successful chases over 300 in World Cups.
 

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Of the matches so far, Zim and Ireland out-performed England, SL and Pakistan (and the WI obviously). Good job so far...looking forward to more contests and surprises.
 

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If SA, India and Pakistan are a top 3 in our group, then WI, Ireland and Zim are chasing the final spot.

Seems a little unfair.
 

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If SA, India and Pakistan are a top 3 in our group, then WI, Ireland and Zim are chasing the final spot.

Seems a little unfair.
Why? The seeding rewards consistent performance between tournaments.
 

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Why? The seeding rewards consistent performance between tournaments.

What I mean is, both Zim and Ireland deserve to go through based on their improvement.

Additionally, I don't think the other teams play as much international cricket with the test playing nations and more between themselves, which doesn't help their rankings much. The WI would definitely be ranked lower than they are now.

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How is NZ 9???
 
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If SA, India and Pakistan are a top 3 in our group, then WI, Ireland and Zim are chasing the final spot.

Seems a little unfair.

Big If

Pakistan were terrible. The best teams will go through, which is the way it should be, nothing to do with unfair
 

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What I mean is, both Zim and Ireland deserve to go through based on their improvement.

I get what you're saying but the seedings don't effect progression...you still have to do well in your fixtures.

So it is possible for Zim and Ireland to go through...the seedings just say it's less likely than SA, India and Pakistan.
 

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I am not sure that the win by Ireland could be seen as "unforeseen". West Indies have been turning mediocre to poor results for some time now. Credit to Ireland for making it happen in the middle. They have bounced back nicely after their loss to Scotland in the warm up matches.

For West Indies, this is a major blow to their hopes of making the next round. It remains to be seen if they have the will to shrug off political turmoil and lack of confidence, and turn it around. They have the team sheet to do it. For their sake, I hope they find the way. Do it for (Dwayne) Bravo. Do it for (Keiron) Pollard. Do it for someone. Anyone.
 

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Does it really though?
We all know West Indies are an amazing side if they choose to pitch up and play like a proper side.

I honestly think that the Proteas are in more trouble in the one day format than we think.

This Windies side is probably the worst that I have ever seen. When last did you see them pitch up to a game as you suggest?

The way we battled to put Zim away shows how mediocre this team actually is even though it looks good on paper.
 

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We are hardly mediocre, we have the best players in the world, we need a better Behardien and killer instinct and we ill be ok
 

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@Kilgore_Trout_Redux, I am not going to knock your theory. However, I am going to say this. Zimbabwe played extremely well yesterday and they deserve credit for their spirited performance. They never gave up and put up a valiant fight. No one gave they a half a chance, but they performed out of their socks to make a game of it.

The so-called top 3 did not fire yesterday, i.e. Amla, AB and Steyn did not feature with bat or ball respectively. AB was brilliant in the field. But it is with the bat they he is king. The top 4 in batting did not give them the start they usually get. They had to consolidate and build toward the formidable 339/4. I was quite proud of the team and how other players stepped up and made a difference.

Is this Proteas team mediocre? I sincerely doubt it. I'd rather wait and talk about their performance after the next game or two.
 

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I honestly think that the Proteas are in more trouble in the one day format than we think.

This Windies side is probably the worst that I have ever seen. When last did you see them pitch up to a game as you suggest?

The way we battled to put Zim away shows how mediocre this team actually is even though it looks good on paper.

A contrasting view - we batted when the pitch was at it's worst and I thought it was a very mature performance by Duminy and Miller to get them to a competitive total. Mediocre teams don't respond to adversity like that.

This same SA team beat New Zealand 2-0 in a 3 match ODI series in New Zealand in October 2014.

I think the team is better than you imply by your post...you can only play what's in front of you. The WI team not playing well shouldn't lead anyone to think SA is a mediocre team...that's illogical.
 

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One of the most picturesque grounds I've ever seen.

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@Kilgore_Trout_Redux, I am not going to knock your theory. However, I am going to say this. Zimbabwe played extremely well yesterday and they deserve credit for their spirited performance. They never gave up and put up a valiant fight. No one gave they a half a chance, but they performed out of their socks to make a game of it.

The so-called top 3 did not fire yesterday, i.e. Amla, AB and Steyn did not feature with bat or ball respectively. AB was brilliant in the field. But it is with the bat they he is king. The top 4 in batting did not give them the start they usually get. They had to consolidate and build toward the formidable 339/4. I was quite proud of the team and how other players stepped up and made a difference.

Is this Proteas team mediocre? I sincerely doubt it. I'd rather wait and talk about their performance after the next game or two.

Thus far they have not faced high caliber opposition. Windies and Zim.

We were lucky, if Zim got one more wicket we were under 300 and Zim could have won.

I say our bowling is our weakest point, this will get us kicked out of the WC. But who do we have, Behardien, Parnell, Abbott?
All 3 are mediocre. Parnell would be my pick but even then we not a world class bowling unit.
The big teams will murder Steyn if he bowled like he did against Zim.
 
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