Official June 2016 Tests Thread

dunkyd said:
Happens with all the mid year tours south. Should scrap them.
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http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/irish-pull-outs-devalue-sa-tour-20160603

Cape Town – It has become increasingly difficult to fill South African Test stadiums anyway … Ireland’s greatly diluted troops will make that even more of a challenge for SARU over the course of the three June home fixtures.

Mass Irish squad withdrawals through injury, including an unwelcome fresh wave this week, have damagingly sucked gravitas from their first visit to these shores since 2004.

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The debilitating whammy now, however, is the confirmed non-presence for this trip of several current Irish names well known and admired by closer followers of the global rugby scene in South Africa.

It is an awful shame to be deprived, especially, of seeing Johnny Sexton (64 Test caps, including three for British and Irish Lions), Rob Kearney (72, including three for Lions), Tommy Bowe (72, five for Lions), Sean O’Brien (44, two for Lions), Luke Fitzgerald (35, one for Lions) and other stalwarts like Simon Zebo, Peter O’Mahony and Cian Healy.

I would argue that, in cricket terms, this is roughly the equivalent of an Australian Test team of their late 1990s or early 2000s heyday coming to South Africa minus Shane Warne, Glenn McGrath and the Waugh twins: just not quite the same.
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England, Scotland and Wales are looking quite strong on their respective tours. The Springboks should better be able to pull this one over the Irish... All in all, the biggest games are those between the Brits and the Aussies.

Whiteley is enthusiastic, but the Hurricanes has shown how one team can adapt and disrupt an attacking play.

http://www.iol.co.za/sport/rugby/springboks/boks-can-match-all-blacks---whiteley-2029974

Coetzee wants the Boks to play a similar kind of a game, one which the All Blacks have successfully implemented for a long time.

And Whiteley believes there is no reason why the Boks can’t follow their lead.

“It took the Lions time to develop that game and from a Springbok perspective, we don’t want to move far from the aspects that have made Bok rugby strong – set-piece superiority, physical contact and dominating the contact zone,” the 28-year-old said.

“But we also have players with fantastic skills and talent. We need to utilise those skills, and the secret is getting the balance between the two approaches right.

“I totally believe that we have the players to match New Zealand. You just have to go to a school rugby game in SA, even from Under-13, and you can see those skills.

“What you need to have is the correct mindset and to believe in what you’re doing. That’s what we did at the Lions, and that’s what is beginning to happen at the Boks. You have to be able to play with freedom, but you can’t be scared to make mistakes.” - Cape Times
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Any tier 1 nation has the current skills and abilities to beat a New Zealand side, rugby is more than only individual skill, it is a tactical game. Once you play like New Zealand they will adapt and beat you at their own game, this is applicable to any rugby team, strategy and style. Nonetheless, we need more enterprising rugby.

Personally I believe that the Sharks has the right recipe, but it took them a while to settle in...
 
A bit OT:

http://www.supersport.com/rugby/springboks/news/160606/Future_of_overseas_Boks_being_decided

Future of overseas Boks being decided

The High Performance department at SA Rugby was working on a plan earlier this year to introduce a policy related to the selection of overseas-based players. In its initial raw form, the plan worked around an incremental formula building up to the next World Cup in Japan in 2019. Overseas-based players with something like 25 caps would be eligible for the Boks this year, next year a player would have had to play 35 times for his country, and then 45 the following season.
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That is adopting the ARU policy.

Were that dispensation accepted and adopted, the plan was that all players had to be back in the country playing Super Rugby if they wanted to be considered for selection during the World Cup year. It made sense in terms of the South African Rugby Union drive to strengthen the franchises and keep South Africa’s top players in the country.

There was to be an extra regulation governing uncapped players related to how long they played in South Africa, and thus repaid the debt to the country that taught them their rugby, before heading abroad.

The plan was not adopted, however, and it is understood that Coetzee was not eager to work within any regulations or stipulations regarding overseas-based players in his first year. He has made it clear at the same time that he will only look at overseas-based players in areas where there are no locally based players challenging strongly for places.

Coetzee confirmed to journalists in Cape Town on Sunday though that a policy is being worked on.
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The way that our politics are steering our rugby there will be a strict policy implemented, and that policy will drive players abroad. I can only hope that Coetzee knows that he need a world cup team in accordance with the political restrictions by 2019...

We are playing a down watered Irish team, could had experimented.
 
Probable Springbok starting team: Willie le Roux, JP Pietersen, Lionel Mapoe, Damian de Allende, Lwazi Mvovo, Patrick Lambie, Faf de Klerk, Duane Vermuelen, Siya Kolisi, Francois Louw, Lood de Jager, Eben Etzebeth, Frans Malherbe, Adriaan Strauss (captain), Tendai Mtawarira.
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2 Lions :erm::wtf:
 
OrbitalDawn said:
When is the match day 23 being named?
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They will probably announce the team on Thursday, it is usually done with the captain run. Du Toit has also returned to active duty, Elton is still declared unavailable. Ackermann at the A team has selected Oupa to captain the team. The U/20 play tomorrow. That is all that I know…
 
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/boks-release-4-players-to-sa-a-squad-20160607

Boks release 4 players to SA ‘A’ squad

Cape Town - The Springboks have released four squad members to the SA 'A' side for the first of their two matches match against the England Saxons in Bloemfontein on Friday evening.

Hooker Scarra Ntubeni, flank Sikhumbuzo Notshe, scrumhalf Nic Groom and flyhalf Garth April are all members of the 31-man Bok training squad that first got together last week in Stellenbosch. They will join coach Johan Ackermann and his SA 'A' side on Tuesday evening in Bloemfontein and will be in action on Friday.
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Yay! I got tickets for the Ellis Park game! Haven't been to an international game in a couple of years now.
 
Solitude said:
Yay! I got tickets for the Ellis Park game! Haven't been to an international game in a couple of years now.
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Also got. But those prices are crazy expensive for the "better seats".

Got the R250 ones, seated as close to the R400 seats as possible :p
 
Solitude said:
Yay! I got tickets for the Ellis Park game! Haven't been to an international game in a couple of years now.
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/Wonders if Solitude is going there to watch rugby or join disruptors... :p
 
Agent_Smith said:
/Wonders if Solitude is going there to watch rugby or join disruptors... :p
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Haha I'll be the one asking the disruptors if they can name the black players in the squad currently and if they can't then I'll tell them to f off.

Leave rugby to those who love the game.
 
Solitude said:
Yay! I got tickets for the Ellis Park game! Haven't been to an international game in a couple of years now.
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i probably have tickets as well... got through wife's work... just waiting for them to dish them out.... until then, I won't celebrate just yet :(
 
SA 'A' Team for the game against the Saxons.

15. Leolin Zas, 14. Travis Ismaiel, 13. Francois Venter (vice-captain), 12. Howard Mnisi, 11. Courtnall Skosan, 10. Garth April, 9. Nic Groom, 8. Nizaam Carr, 7. Oupa Mohoje (captain), 6. Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 5. Stephan Lewies, 4. JD Schickerling, 3. Vincent Koch, 2. Scarra Ntubeni, 1. Thomas du Toit.

Replacements: 16. Malcolm Marx, 17. Lizo Gqoboka, 18. Coenie Oosthuizen, 19. RG Snyman, 20. Jean-Luc du Preez, 21. Piet van Zyl, 22. Francois Brummer, 23. Lukhanyo Am
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Will be interested to see how young Garth April goes.
 
English team, note Don Armand the former Stormers and UCT player. Funnily enough I had a tutorial with him and Nick Mallet's son in my 1st year at UCT.


England Saxons

15 Mike Haley, 14 Alex Lewington, 13 Nick Tompkins, 12 Ollie Devoto, 11 Semesa Rokoduguni, 10 Danny Cipriani, 9 Dan Robson, 8 Sam Jones, 7 Matt Kvesic, 6 Don Armand, 5 Charlie Ewels, 4 Dave Attwood (c), 3 Kieran Brookes, 2 Tommy Taylor, 1 Alec Hepburn

Substitutes: 16 George McGuigan, 17 Ross Harrison, 18 Jake Cooper-Woolley, 19 Mitch Lees, 20 Dave Ewers, 21 Micky Young, 22 Sam James, 23 Christian Wade
 
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