Official Rugby World Cup 2015 Thread

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Nothing wrong with having Dom krag in a squad. But if you build on a physical forward pack, at least have your game plan coupled with it.

What use is having these massive forwards when you keep kicking the ball to the opposition?

What use if those massive forwards if all they do is bash into the same players phase after phase.
Our back line stands around with twiddling their thumbs while our forwards bash into the defense, over and over and over.
We never actually utilize the space we create.
 

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What use if those massive forwards if all they do is bash into the same players phase after phase.
Our back line stands around with twiddling their thumbs while our forwards bash into the defense, over and over and over.
We never actually utilize the space we create.

And that has happened because they don't play to their strength. With the make-up of the team, the game plan didn't fit the team make-up.

Trying to bash through the defence is the wrong tactic with the team we had. We should have used the set pieces and not try and bash them up with Schalk playing Flyhalf... With our team the best would have been to play the territorial game and compete for the ball at the set phases in their half. When we have quick ball to let the backline do their thing.

Meyer tried to play bash through the middle using the forwards which is completely wrong and it worked for the Bulls till the world adapted to it and rekt them. The Rugby world knows how he plays, so they just adapt.
 

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Let's get one thing very clear.... This All Black team is one awesome unit.

Any team that tried to open up the game and went on an all out attack got their arses handed to them on a plate. In spades.

And the same would have happened to us on Saturday.

So when was the defining moment when we spoilt our chance to win?

It was the line out in the AB's 22 just a few minutes from the end... and just like the Scots last week, WE blew it. That's how simple it is.

12-7 up at halftime was an amazing result for us. The heavy rain didn't really suit us going into the 2nd half. Sure it may have neutralized the AB attack to some extent but it completely blunted ours. We were living off scraps and had a 5 point buffer to boot and then it rained and we spent the rest of the game pinned in our own half.

It was an odd game. Perhaps the score line flattered us some what? NZ dominated possession and territory for 65 minutes of the match yet we finished within 2 but was it really that close?? Other than in the first minute of the game we never looked like scoring a try but scoring tries was clearly never our game plan. Avoiding an embarrassing 49 point defeat was.

Our performance may have been courageous and our gameplan, in theory, was probably the right one (remember we were 5 points up at the break), but in the 2nd 40 our tactical kicking was atrocious and along with our poor lineout performance, cost us. I reckon NZ probably under performed too. I just wonder what the outcome may have been had it not rained?!!

This NZ team is outstanding but they beatable. Argentina outplayed them for 60 minutes of their pool match, playing beautiful expansive, attacking rugby, the same rugby that totally bamboozled the much fancied Ireland side in the QF's, the same rugby that gifted Australia an early lead, which they never relinquished. Those are the risks!! The Boks, since Japan, haven't taken any. I reckon we would have in that 2nd half though!!! :eek:
 

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Bok rugby has always been built around big, brash, bollocking bruisers up front. That's still a fundamental of the game but we need to find finesse too. Right now we all brute force and little to no finesse.
 

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Bok rugby has always been built around big, brash, bollocking bruisers up front. That's still a fundamental of the game but we need to find finesse too. Right now we all brute force and little to no finesse.

Yup, that’s the thing. Not only bok rugby but rugby in RSA generally, including schools.

Asking the bok side to fundamentally change the way they play to game to something like how NZ plays the game (and then beat them at their own game) is the same as asking for transformation to take place instantly at the top level off the game (and then retain the quality of the side…)

NZ plays how they are taught from school level. If you want to play like them, I’m afraid you’ll need time and a mindset change from junior level rugby coaches/schools.

Nothing wrong in the way we want to play the game. If it comes off, it comes off big time. It has won us WC’s, Lions series and S14’s. We just need to tweak and find ways the scores tries again.

The execution sorely lacks and there are too many unforced errors creeping in time and time again. The bulls kick and chase was successful because of constant highly accurate kicks. We can't kick this accurately anymore, why is this?

It wasn’t necessarily our game plan letting us down over the weekend. We screwed up all our line outs….something we are traditionally strong in.

As I understand Meyer will probably continue coaching. I do however wish we can have an eddy jones as backline coach / assistant coach permanently for the next four years though.
 
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Werner Harding

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Picture of the Tournament IMO

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This is the reason why I love this game, as it is never fun to loose but to be the winner and still be humble takes a lot.

Sonny Bill Williams comforting Jesse Kriel after the 18-20 lost.
 

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It looks like we will have to endure another 4 years of domkrag rugby.
 

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If Jones works some magic at the Stormers, it's not inconceivable that a change of gameplan and mindset for the national team will follow. It will come down to how the Lions and Stormers do in Super Rugby, I think - if they can do well against the NZ teams especially while playing a decent brand of rugby, we might get what we want.
 

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Bok rugby has always been built around big, brash, bollocking bruisers up front. That's still a fundamental of the game but we need to find finesse too. Right now we all brute force and little to no finesse.
I'm not so sure that the "always" tag is applicable.

We have had some superb backlines over the years. The 80s with Naas, Danie, Carel Dup, Errol Tobia, Gysie Pienaar, Johan Heunis, Colin Beck, etc etc etc really stands out.

I firmly believe that, even today, we have the backline players that can set the world alight. What we need is a change in game plan, starting with... making the flyhalf the general.
 

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So Jean de Villiers has signed with Leicester Tigers. Joining them beginning of December.
 

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Has the team for Friday night been announced?

I see the game is at 10pm :(

Gets announced tonight.

In other news:

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Now I understand why he is so cocky with the players on the field.

His dislike for soccer antics rivals my own :D

The other day he tuned some guy to come back the next day (implying for the soccer game), I had a good chuckle :D
 
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His dislike for soccer antics rivals my own :D

The other day he tuned some guy to come back the next day (implying for the soccer game), I had a good chuckle :D

Come back in 2 weeks... that's was the Scot fullback, against SA in the pool stages

/hands ponder omega-3 supplement
 
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