Official Rugby World Cup 2015 Thread

According to the rule book (as quoted from RugbyRefs.com) : He is offside under 11.7. Some situations 11.3 will put onside, but 11.9 stops this being one of them.

So the call was the correct one.
 
That just shows me he's flying by the seat of his pants.

Sit down and show some class.

Don't be stupid. He's well within his rights to react like that. The man is passionate. Blame Craig Joubert for the Scottish loss all you want, but don't be hating on all Saffas now, kapisch.
 
According to the rule book (as quoted from RugbyRefs.com) : He is offside under 11.7. Some situations 11.3 will put onside, but 11.9 stops this being one of them.

So the call was the correct one.

No matter how hard you try, the public has made up their minds, laws or no laws...

The only questionable decision by Joubert was the yellow, the severity, but that was also in accordance with the rugby laws. People only love laws when it suites their own purpose.
 
Or did Steyn exclude himself? Seems to be an open question.

Did himself no favors with the Saru conflict, but he has always said he would be at WC in a heartbeat if they wanted or needed him.
I mean Kirchner, really, lol.
 
No matter how hard you try, the public has made up their minds, laws or no laws...

The only questionable decision by Joubert was the yellow, the severity, but that was also in accordance with the rugby laws. People only love laws when it suites their own purpose.
+1. The yellow was hard but not wrong. Questioned but not questionable.
 
Or did Steyn exclude himself? Seems to be an open question.

He attended the Bok training camp. I'm sure he was ready to burry the hatchet. His brother's passing threw a spanner in the works, but that is not the reason he wasn't selected...
 
He attended the Bok training camp. I'm sure he was ready to burry the hatchet. His brother's passing threw a spanner in the works, but that is not the reason he wasn't selected...

Yup, a sad day in Africa he is not on the park wearing green and gold.
 
According to the rule book (as quoted from RugbyRefs.com) : He is offside under 11.7. Some situations 11.3 will put onside, but 11.9 stops this being one of them.

So the call was the correct one.

Just for clarification on the laws themselves...

http://laws.worldrugby.org/?law=11&language=EN

11.7 Offside after a knock-on
When a player knocks-on and an offside team-mate next plays the ball, the offside player is liable to sanction if playing the ball prevented an opponent from gaining an advantage.
Sanction: Penalty kick

But...

11.3 Being put onside by opponents
In general play, there are three ways by which an offside player can be put onside by an action of the opposing team. These three ways do not apply to a player who is offside under the 10-Metre Law.
(a) Runs 5 metres with ball. When an opponent carrying the ball runs 5 metres, the offside player is put onside.
(b) Kicks or passes. When an opponent kicks or passes the ball, the offside player is put onside.
(c) Intentionally touches ball. When an opponent intentionally touches the ball but does not catch it, the offside player is put onside.

However...

11.9 Loitering
A player who remains in an offside position is loitering. A loiterer who prevents the opposing team from playing the ball as they wish is taking part in the game, and is penalised. The referee makes sure that the loiterer does not benefit from being put onside by the opposing team’s action.
Sanction: Penalty kick at the offending player’s offside line

The bolded bit is key. He was put onside by Phipps' touching the ball, but he was still 'loitering' in an offside position. Am I correct in assuming the lineout's offside line still applies, since he never retreated back to his own side after the lineout before engaging in play?

The question becomes whether he was actually offside or not - was it open play (i.e. no offside line) or was there an offside line that applied?

*edit*

Another law... Not sure what to make of it, tbh.

11.8 Putting onside a player retiring during a ruck, maul, scrum or lineout
When a ruck, maul, scrum or lineout forms, a player who is offside and is retiring as required by Law remains offside even when the opposing team wins possession and the ruck, maul, scrum or lineout has ended. The player is put onside by retiring behind the applicable offside line. No other action of the offside player and no action of that player's team mates can put the offside player onside.
If the player remains offside the player can be put onside only by the action of the opposing team. There are two such actions:

Opponent runs 5 metres with ball. When an opponent carrying the ball has run 5 metres, the offside player is put onside. An offside player is not put onside when an opponent passes the ball. Even if the opponents pass the ball several times, their action does not put the offside player onside.
Opponent kicks. When an opponent kicks the ball, the offside player is put onside.
 
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Frans Steyn :cry:

It is way too late to bring Frans Steyn and Morne Steyn into the bigger picture, though Morne is in the team he isn't in the match day game plan. Training is one thing, playing a game is a whole other story. Morne Steyn has shown promise against the USA in the last 20 minutes, but by this time the Eagles was already playing a losing game.

We have to work with what is available. At this stage it would be hard to consider Zane Kirchner or Morne Steyn.

Another thing though, du Preez was slow on the delivery Saturday... I nearly thought Pienaar was in play.
 
No matter how hard you try, the public has made up their minds, laws or no laws...

The only questionable decision by Joubert was the yellow, the severity, but that was also in accordance with the rugby laws. People only love laws when it suites their own purpose.

I disagree. I think his decision not to go to the TMO for the late charge on Hogg was also a bad one.
 
Don't be stupid. He's well within his rights to react like that. The man is passionate. Blame Craig Joubert for the Scottish loss all you want, but don't be hating on all Saffas now, kapisch.

Hey, I'm hating on no-one and I'm not blaming anyone for the loss last night. Aussies won, Scots lost, end of, and good luck to them.

Otherwise, I'm backing the Boks and can see them beating the ABs in a close one, I'll be behind them 100%. That I think HM is flying by the seat of his pants is a different matter.
 
Another thing though, du Preez was slow on the delivery Saturday... I nearly thought Pienaar was in play.

Wash your mouth out with acid!!!! :D
I reckon Fourie is entitled to a slow game or 100 before the latter is even remotely considered!


On another note, seen on FB

Little known fact.
There is a Playoff for 5th Place at the Rugby World Cup.

It's called the 6 Nations
:D:D:D
 
According to the rule book (as quoted from RugbyRefs.com) : He is offside under 11.7. Some situations 11.3 will put onside, but 11.9 stops this being one of them.

So the call was the correct one.

No, rugbyrefs.com are only interpreting those rules.
 
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