Official Super Rugby 2016 Thread

[Agent_Smith]

Good that I used that first sentence: as it stands now. Just want to get a clearer picture of how its suppose to happen.

So as it stands now, If the Lions do play the sharks and beat them, then they will most probably face the brumbies/crusaders?

Yup, I think that's about it!

 

[Fulcrum29]

nervous? no. we will lose this game.

That depends on the Argies playing against the rules…

 

[samrai.jck]

Yup, I think that's about it!

Well then, good luck Ackerman

 

[Fulcrum29]

Japan brought structured rugby to Japan by introducing rugby through an industrial league in the early 2000's, and only now they have adopted these outlaying plans,

http://www.worldrugby.org/news/175092

Headline achievements:

1. 24 new level two immediate pitch-side care-qualified medical personnel (20 from JRFU and four from Asia Rugby)
2. One new medical trainer, which helps move JRFU towards self-sufficiency to deliver more courses
3. World Rugby Immediate Pitch-Side Care Management Group met
4. Successful meeting with JRFU and Top League management regarding HIA. Outline plan:

- HIA runs in Top League from August 2016
- World Rugby provide two-day HIA and concussion recognition training in August
- All Top League medical staff have Level Two ICIR by September 2018

5. Successful meeting with JRFU coaching and referee departments identifying outline plans to:

- Increase workforce to deliver Rugby Ready (need 48)
- Identify high-profile individuals who can lead on delivery of Level Three
- Level Three becomes a prerequisite for coaching in the Top League
- Increase the delivery of Levels One and Two coaching
- Referee pathway and alignment discussed
- Referee education material prioritised for translation

They are way behind the standards... this was only rushed to be adopted when their captain in the Bulls game had to continue play with a concussion, did Hammett not know?

 

[Fulcrum29]

As it stands now:

Will the playoffs be as follows:

Lions vs Sharks,
Chiefs vs Canes,
Stormers vs Highlanders,
Brumbies vs Crusaders

What do you guys think?

I think that one should not underestimate the Aussies, though they had an lacklustre Super Rugby season they will up their game. The Brumbies and the Waratahs are still in the balance… the Tahs has more depth to their available squad and should be the greater threat entering the elimination rounds, luckily we have the Brumbies playing the Force where they should be able to pick up the bonus points.

I am not an anti-Bull supporter, but I would much rather have a quality Sharks side going through with Lambie back to health. Then again, I also want to see the Sunwolves having a little bit more gas in their tanks this weekend and I do expect a game where they will take all the risk to score which may end up very badly or superbly.

So… the Tahs and the Bulls may still go through. Ugh… I would love to see the Cheetahs beat the Bulls.

Lastly, back to the Aussies, the Wallabies will be no easy team at The Rugby Championship. The Argies, they are shell shocked. In my opinion the Argies should also adopt a regulated standard like the Japanese did as both teams are not with depth and have a lacking understanding when it comes to the rules which may also be due to a language barrier.

 

[Fulcrum29]

+1 for SA teams playing against NZ sides. -1 for more local derbies.

Agree, and that is why we have premier domestic competitions. The issue with the Super Rugby is that the teams need to go on tour within a limited schedule.

 

[SlowInternet]

nervous? no. we will lose this game.

No Fanie we will take the game. We are Lions !

 

[faniebraai]

That depends on the Argies playing against the rules…

nah, they are strong(er) at home, and we will suck.

 

[faniebraai]

No Fanie we will take the game. We are Lions !

NoSlow... we are lions, yes... but don't be a stupid lion now

 

[DanDango]

Japan brought structured rugby to Japan by introducing rugby through an industrial league in the early 2000's, and only now they have adopted these outlaying plans,

http://www.worldrugby.org/news/175092



They are way behind the standards... this was only rushed to be adopted when their captain in the Bulls game had to continue play with a concussion, did Hammett not know?

The J-League started in 1993 but before soccer was run like rugby is now. Each team is own by title sponsor and players have day jobs at title sponsor. The J-League went full pro, player play soccer, not work day jobs, till Japan change rugby to full professional sport they will always lag behind. The second problem Japan average height is 171 cm, if a young Japanese boy is tall he'll most like play basketball. The Slam Dunk (manga) start a basketball thing in Japan in the early 90's. Next big problem is baseball japan favorite sport, baseball started in 1936 with a league. Next problem Japan play American Football ( Japan love American sports)

American football[edit]
Main article: American football in Japan
The X-League is the top league in Japan. It was founded in 1971, it has 60 teams split into 4 divisions. In 1999 Japan won the first ever 1999 IFAF World Championship, and also won in the 2003 IFAF World Championship. Japan hosted the 2007 IFAF World Championship, but placed 2nd to the United States. Japan placed 3rd in the 2011 IFAF World Championship.

Additional, Japan has eight major college football leagues. These leagues are the top level of college football in the country, with the East and West champions playing in the annual Koshien Bowl in Nishinomiya. The eight leagues are:

Rugby is get more popular in japan, 2 rugby manga is out and an anime will start in 3 months time.
15: Meisetsu Kougyou Koukou Rugby-bu (manga)
All Out!! (manga/ Anime)
In the early 1970's a manga artist tried to get rugby manga publish, the publishers like the theme but not the sport and the story got changes to baseball. The manage was named captain. 15: Meisetsu Kougyou Koukou Rugby-bu was publish is 2010. Japan rugby need a global super star that gets young kids to play rugby.

 

[Fulcrum29]

nah, they are strong(er) at home, and we will suck.

The Stormers has beaten them at home...

 

[faniebraai]

The Stormers has beaten them at home...

With a b team?

 

[greg0205]

With a b team?

I'm holding thumbs, there's always the chance that we sneak it. Would have made the same call as coach 'tho... Playoffs are way more important.

 

[DanDango]

I'm holding thumbs, there's always the chance that we sneak it. Would have made the same call as coach 'tho... Playoffs are way more important.

+1 People talk about home final but to get to the final we have to win 2 games. Playing with a team that's sick and tired will not win you games.

 

[Fulcrum29]

With a b team?

More or less, it was the old team with Juan de Jongh and Malherbe carrying the captaincy. Eben and de Allende still out, Schalk on the bench and when Nic Groom was still too slow on the ball delivery. What the Stormers had was the Kolbe factor.

 

[modern10]

+1 People talk about home final but to get to the final we have to win 2 games. Playing with a team that's sick and tired will not win you games.

But most of the guys have only played twice in 6 weeks.

 

[Fulcrum29]

http://www.supersport.com/rugby/super-rugby/news/160713/JP_to_lead_Sharks_against_Sunwolves

JP to lead Sharks against Sunwolves

JP Pietersen will lead a Cell C Sharks that has a mixture of first choice and rotation selection about it in Friday night’s final Vodacom Super Rugby round robin game against the Sunwolves at Kings Park.

Beast Mtawarira is being rested this week while regular captain Patrick Lambie has clearly failed to rid himself of all the symptoms of the concussion he suffered four weeks ago as he has not been included in the match day 23. What is surprising is the choice of Pietersen to lead the side ahead of Keegan Daniel, who is an experienced captain.

With Willie le Roux out again this week and Lambie still on the sidelines, Rhyno Smith and Garth April get another chance to pick up form and experience at fullback and flyhalf respectively. Sharks director of rugby Gary Gold will be hoping that his team fares better with their kicking/territory game than it did in the first half last week against the Cheetahs.

The Sharks team that Gold has come up with makes a strong transformation statement, with no less than seven black players in the starting team...

CELL C SHARKS TEAM: Rhyno Smith, Odwa Ndungane, JP Pietersen, Andre Esterhuizen, Lwazi Mvovo, Garth April, Stefan Ungerer, Philip van der Walt, Tera Mtembu, Keegan Daniel, Ruan Botha, Etienne Oosthuizen, Coenie Oosthuizen, Chiliboy Ralepelle, Thomas du Toit. Replacements: Kyle Cooper, Dale Chadwick, Lourens Adriaanse, Stefan Lewies, Jean Deysel, Michael Claassens, Heimar Williams, Curwin Bosch.

I would actually not take this chance against the Sunwolves, they may be depleted but their scrummagers has adapted to the Super Rugby game. Though the Sunwolves will have debutants, that Panasonic winger is highly rated in the Top League and they have added weight to their little arsenal. The question, will the Sharks be capable to bully over the Sunwolves?

Immelman should also be questioned as he gave a clear team warning to the Bulls, yet the Bulls continued with their dirty play on the ground, not rolling away, illegal entry, etc. which seemingly went ignored.

http://www.sanzarrugby.com/superrugby/news/super-rugby-referees-round-171/

Sharks v Sunwolves @ Growthpoint Kings Park, Durban

Date Friday: 15 July 2016

Kick-Off: 19:00 local

REF: Rasta Rasivhenge
AR1: Cwengile Jadezweni
AR2: Archie Sehlako
TMO: Marius Jonker

I'm okay with Rasta, he knows how to deal with players.

 

[Mephisto_Helix]

Coenie is obviously Gold's lover ..... no other reason for him to persist with awful scrumming like that

 

[Fulcrum29]

Sunwolves vs Sharks

1. Keita Inagaki; 2. Takeshi Kizu; 3. Shinnosuke Kakinaga; 4. Hitoshi Ono; 5. Faatiga Lemalu; 6. Liaki Moli; 7. Taiyo Ando; 8. Edward Quirk; 9. Kaito Shigeno; 10. Yu Tamaru (c); 11. Yasutaka Sasakura; 12. Mifiposeti Paea; 13. Derek Carptenter; 14. Hajime Yama****a; 15. Riaan Viljoen

16. Futoshi Mori; 17. Masataka Mikami; 18. Takuma Asahara; 19. Naohiro Kotaki; 20. Yoshiya Hosoda; 21. Yuki Yatomi; 22. Ryohei Yamanaka; 23. Kentaro Kodama

Their replacement lock, Kazuhiko Usami, and replacement hooker, Ryuhei Arita, which they had brought in are not in the team. They are essentially sticking to their Super Rugby hardened team, naming Yu Tamaru as the captain. Yamanaka and Kodama will have their debuts, on the bench, and as I had speculated they moved Paea back to centre. They have 3 backline replacements on the bench vs the 2 they had last week, they will push their loosies to the very end.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Blues/Waratahs game is a nailbiter...