Open letter to iBurst

Rustum

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Check this thread for some backstory. As you'll see, the issue has been resolved and my thanks and appreciation to Shaun Green for an eventual speedy resolution.

Nevertheless, as this saga has now dragged on for 3 years, I remain highly irritated with iBurst and had to write the following screed. Check it.
 
Accounts? !@#&!

Rustum - possibly A LOT MORE to follow here from myself re. the INCOMPETENT accounts dept. at iBurst's latest screw up!
(This after the COUNTLESS sagas I have been going through with specifically accounts over the past 3 years - It has been a living nightmare!)

I sent off a scathing e-mail to iBurst accounts last night and cc'd Shaun Green on it as well..

I am still blissfully awaiting reply of any kind from iBurst...
 
There is certainly a lot of anger in that letter, and understandably so. I would probably have reacted in a similar way had this happen to me.

I just hope Jannie & his boys takes this kind of thing to heart when strategising ways to improve their service offering to us existing customers and new ones. Its these kind of occurances that could potentially cost iBurst millions in lost revenue. All it takes to lose R1M per year is to consider 185 new subscribers (or existing ones) each spending around R449 per month for a year. I can see how a letter like this could, with enough visibility, cause significant damage to iBurst if left unchecked.

My 2 cents....
 
A lot of anger.

Also, I do hope Jannie and his boys turn the behemoth around and make it one of the most succesful companies.

We shall see....
 
A lot of anger.

Also, I do hope Jannie and his boys turn the behemoth around and make it one of the most succesful companies.

We shall see....

Although I might seem to be a very negative iBurst user, I can't but to agree that I do hope iBurst will be converte to a major ISP enterprise in SA.

On a technical level, the service is better than Ok (for now! Needs to speed up for the future!)

if the the paperwork would just catch up as well.

Best of luck to Jannie & co for the struggle.

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My conspiracy theory: a very angry employee handed over the accounts that caused all the problems - after Jannie&co told him he'll get fired unless creditors in arrears are under control by months end. :)
 
I dont' think it is going to happen.
I have been paying them via EFT for nearly three years..
Just over 2 Months ago they cut my service and INSISTED that I MUST PAY BY DEBIT ORDER.

Now for 2 months in a row they have managed to screw up my debit ORDERS TOTALLY!!
I am PISSED to say the least.

I have mailed Shaun re. this and am awaiting some form of resolution.
But I think.. I think.. I think..
I want to.. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
I dont' think it is going to happen.
I have been paying them via EFT for nearly three years..
Just over 2 Months ago they cut my service and INSISTED that I MUST PAY BY DEBIT ORDER.

Now for 2 months in a row they have managed to screw up my debit ORDERS TOTALLY!!
I am PISSED to say the least.

I have mailed Shaun re. this and am awaiting some form of resolution.
But I think.. I think.. I think..
I want to.. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Would pre-paid work for you? Or do you need month-to-month?

In general, how do you guys feel about a pre-paid product?

BTW, I've posted what happened to Rustum in the relevant thread.
 
Would pre-paid work for you? Or do you need month-to-month?

In general, how do you guys feel about a pre-paid product?

BTW, I've posted what happened to Rustum in the relevant thread.

I am on month-to-month.
I purchased my modem outright when I joined +- 3 years ago...
(At the moment I feel like dumping it in the toilet!)
And yes prepaid would have been a better option from the start.

None of this however gets rid of the incredible anger and frustration that has built up within me re. iBurst (Specifically ACCOUNTS!) over the past 3 years.
I have had my service cut a number of times due to accounts.
There was (and is still going on...) the whole 'stealth package change' from April last year which iBurst did not have the decency to inform any of their current users about.. which I eventually had some details of published on www.iol.co.za...
There is the issue of debit orders being levied TWICE in the same month against all iBurst customers..
They cannot get a simple thing like a statement, Invoice or Debit order done correctly.
When I e-mail them it takes ages (up to 7 days in some cases) to get a response.
Then it is some stupid 2 line reply which addresses NONE of the issues that I raised.
Then the whole thing turns into a 2-4 week e-mail debate (and I still don't get answers...)
I try to phone them - get put on hold for 10 minutes (while stupid 'we care about you.. crap is played in my ear..) - and then get cut off!
I keep phoning.
IT CANNOT GO ON LIKE THIS!:mad:

Shaun Green has eventually helped me to resolve some issues for which I am deeply grateful.

Why is it that I NEVER have these kinds of problems with DSTV and other companies etc?
I never have to check their billing.
They never get a debit order wrong...

IT IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
Would pre-paid work for you? Or do you need month-to-month?

In general, how do you guys feel about a pre-paid product?

BTW, I've posted what happened to Rustum in the relevant thread.

Jannie,

Its a pleasure meeting you.

I think a pre-paid solution could work, although it would need some capital from iBurst to set up a secure pay site to accept credit card payments. To try and sell vouchers (like scratch cards) and keep it accessible throughout iBurst's physical subscriber areas might be a challenge.

A pre-paid solution would make sense should one travel often outside iburst coverage areas (international) for example when on holiday, where one would ideally want to "suspend" one's service for a few weeks at a time. A really efficient accounts department would be able to suspend and reactivate your account with a few clicks upon request, although I would not try it right now if I was you :) ). Perhaps consider allowing a m2m subscriber to suspend/activate as many times as he/she wishes, and limit contract subscribers to say a total suspension of 4 weeks for every 12 calendar months. Does this make sense?

Having said all of this, one thing has become clear to most (if not all) of us; your biggest effort should be directed towards optimising (no correct that, start from grass-roots level) your accounts and billing department. You as CEO will undoubtly know that efficient people need efficient support systems to be able to function optimally.

Please view this as positive critisism, but wouldn't offering a pre-paid service just shift the focus from the problematic accounts department instead of fixing it?

I have been a subscriber of iBurst (m2m) basically since its inception, and would personally not be too interested in pre-paid. I am much more looking forward to efficient, trouble-free billing & accounts, faster access times and more bandwidth for the same subscription fees. I had quite a long telephone conversation with Shaun this afternoon about some of my other suggestions, and I am actually quite excited about things to come!

All the best, Rudi
 
Er, I have a debit order for Cybersmart - it generally runs on the 1st of each month. For the last several months, I've had cash trouble at around that time. I email them a request - 3 days before end of month - to suspend my debit order for that month, and within 24 hours I get an email from accounts saying that it has been done and they include a reminder to pay before the 15th of the month, either manually and fax proof, or EFT. I've done this three times in a row once. They promise to disconnect you if they haven't received payment by 15th.

That seems a good system: a mixture of bureaucratic strictness, with a friendly human face.

So, why does iBurst not accept EFT payments?
 
Jannie,

Its a pleasure meeting you.

I think a pre-paid solution could work, although it would need some capital from iBurst to set up a secure pay site to accept credit card payments. To try and sell vouchers (like scratch cards) and keep it accessible throughout iBurst's physical subscriber areas might be a challenge.

A pre-paid solution would make sense should one travel often outside iburst coverage areas (international) for example when on holiday, where one would ideally want to "suspend" one's service for a few weeks at a time. A really efficient accounts department would be able to suspend and reactivate your account with a few clicks upon request, although I would not try it right now if I was you :) ). Perhaps consider allowing a m2m subscriber to suspend/activate as many times as he/she wishes, and limit contract subscribers to say a total suspension of 4 weeks for every 12 calendar months. Does this make sense?

Having said all of this, one thing has become clear to most (if not all) of us; your biggest effort should be directed towards optimising (no correct that, start from grass-roots level) your accounts and billing department. You as CEO will undoubtly know that efficient people need efficient support systems to be able to function optimally.

Please view this as positive critisism, but wouldn't offering a pre-paid service just shift the focus from the problematic accounts department instead of fixing it?

I have been a subscriber of iBurst (m2m) basically since its inception, and would personally not be too interested in pre-paid. I am much more looking forward to efficient, trouble-free billing & accounts, faster access times and more bandwidth for the same subscription fees. I had quite a long telephone conversation with Shaun this afternoon about some of my other suggestions, and I am actually quite excited about things to come!

All the best, Rudi

Thanks Rudi,

You would've read in my first post here that a new billing system is of topmost priority and we're still on track for the dates I mentioned to deliver this.
 
I am on month-to-month.

None of this however gets rid of the incredible anger and frustration that has built up within me re. iBurst (Specifically ACCOUNTS!) over the past 3 years.

Why is it that I NEVER have these kinds of problems with DSTV and other companies etc?
I never have to check their billing.
They never get a debit order wrong...

IT IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

My question too. Why do other companies get it right, well, mostly, but iBurst seems to get it wrong mostly, and then massively so. I would close the company and start anew. Recruit new people, hire new software engineers, train call agents properly - I mean properly. And treat them like you want them to treat the customers, etc.

But Gekco I feel for you, you know I've been there; I know what it's like. You can always get out, you know. It is possible.
 
I do understand the frustrations and how you guys are feeling, but I feel there is too much negativity at the moment here on the forums. I know both Shaun and Jannie are trying their best to help you guys :)

iBurst is just recently under new management and after speaking to Shaun today and over the past few weeks I have a lot of faith in what Jannie has planned for iBurst and its customers over the next few weeks and months. Just remember things don't change suddenly overnight and we need to be a bit more patient.

Both him and Shaun work long hours and weekends to make iBurst even better. They have mentioned their has been problems in the past and I know they trying their hardest to sort and rectify them as quickly as possible, big chear for that :).

I personally want to thank them for this and also helping me out with my WoW latency problems this month, especially Shaun who always goes the extra mile trying to sort them out for me with upstream guys and I know they working on it at the moment to help us.


I do see they are busy turning around many things to make iBurst even better.

I feel what good now is that they listening to their customers and taking many suggestion/criticisms and trying to implement them. Not many companies do that.

So far I think Jannie and Shaun both done fantastic job and looking forward to road ahead.

Anyways, good night and have a wonderful weekend :)
 
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I do understand the frustrations and how you guys are feeling, but I feel there is too much negativity at the moment here on the forums. I know both Shaun and Jannie are trying their best to help you guys :)

iBurst is just recently under new management and after speaking to Shaun today and over the past few weeks have alot of faith in what Jannie has planned for iBurst and its customers over the next few weeks and months.

Both him and Shaun work long hours and weekends to make iBurst even better. They have mentioned their has been problems in the past and I know they trying their hardest to sort and rectify them as quickly as possible, big chear for that :).

I personally want to thank them for this and also helping me out with my WoW latency problems this month, especially Shaun who always goes the extra mile trying to sort them out for me with upstream guys and I know they working on it at the moment to help us.

Just remember things dont change suddenly overnight and we need to be a bit more patient.
I do see they are busy turning around many things to make iBurst even better.

I feel what good now is that they listening to their customers and taking many suggestion/criticisms and trying to implement them. Not many companies do that.

So far I think Jannie and Shaun both done fantastic job and looking forward to road ahead.

Anyways, good night and have a wonderful weekend :)

That's great for you. And you obviously have an insider track. And, yes, Shaun goes out of his way. But please, don't try and dismiss me as being negative. To reiterate: I would not have felt this way if this saga had not raised itself into a third chapter. I did not bring this negativity. And once again, it is not just a few people on this forum; neither is this the only forum.

I think all in all my experience has been shabby, and I have been treated shabbily until I had the gumption to go onto HelloPeter in 2008. So, yes, Shaun goes the extra mile and kudos to him, but he would not have to go the extra mile if the company had not pushed its customers out that way.

Remember, I am also no longer a customer at iBurst, but that must be an achievement, don't you think: that a company can inspire such vituperation in someone who was a customer of theirs last in 2006. It says something about the intensity of the negative experience. It's not a matter of me being negative; if it wasn't for the **** rearing its head again, i wouldn't have been here.

How many different ways can one spell that out? The negativity is due to bad experience. Simple as that.

I'm sorry that they have to try their hardest and put in the hours. That in itself is an index of something else. I can't help it if they feel they have to do that.

But this is also not a personal blame game. If hours had been put in 3 years ago, or 4 years ago, or whatever, then you sensibilities would have been spared all this negativity.

I do wonder though: why you cover for them when I haven't attacked either of them personally.
 
tough thread :) I must say.

What i do read inbetween the lines is the following.

Shawn has been doing excellent work trying to sort out all the niggles/issues, Iburst is now under new Management also trying to Fix problems from the past and looking forward with a positive attitude. (Services, New Products etc)

Unfortunately these 2 guys are now suffering the wrath of all the Old Clients that had suffered through various issues for the past few years.


Iburst is changing but will not happen overnight.


I've been with Iburst for the Past 5months, all i cans say is : Keep up the good Work.
 
In general, how do you guys feel about a pre-paid product?

I would not spend money upfront for a specialised expensive modem - hence pre-paid would not work.

But, I would love to use prepaid for top-ups, provided the VAT invoice requirements are honoured and the vouchers are easily available and not linked to a specific modem/account until loaded.

But I would prefer a more cost effective product to pre-paid - Neotel has set the cost for fixed wireless at 8c/MB :-)

My neighbours are reporting excellent Neotel service :-)
 
I would not spend money upfront for a specialised expensive modem - hence pre-paid would not work.

But, I would love to use prepaid for top-ups, provided the VAT invoice requirements are honoured and the vouchers are easily available and not linked to a specific modem/account until loaded.

But I would prefer a more cost effective product to pre-paid - Neotel has set the cost for fixed wireless at 8c/MB :-)

My neighbours are reporting excellent Neotel service :-)

OK, thanks for the feedback. What is a realistic price to pay for a modem?
 
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