OpenOffice 3 ready to battle

Cool.. Everybody loves free software but this can be a killer to innovation. Sad to say this but if there is nothing commercial happening and there is no income for the developers I fail to see what will drive innovation in the future of Open Office and Open Source for that matter. Microsoft is evil but they rule the Desktop market and the reason they do is because they innovate. (with hangups and all) If they don't they will die. (maybe soon if I look at Vista which is a piece of crap)

harsh words...

You know, you do deserve a hiding for those "harsh" words. If you haven't noticed, Open Source has been around for quite some time, has come a long way since it's started too. Why do you think Nokia is willing to buy out the rest of Symbian OS and make it open source? Because if Google beats them to it, Nokia is going to have a drop in sales.
I will let someone else drop the rest of the stuff on you.
 
We use OO here at CapeAds, it does the job pretty well, except there are many times when I have to e-mail this person to who MS Office to open the file because OO doesn't open it properly.

Something that is FREE will not always be PERFECT but as far as PERFECT goes, OO gets very very close.

plugger123 said:
Cool.. Everybody loves free software but this can be a killer to innovation. Sad to say this but if there is nothing commercial happening and there is no income for the developers I fail to see what will drive innovation in the future of Open Office and Open Source for that matter. Microsoft is evil but they rule the Desktop market and the reason they do is because they innovate. (with hangups and all) If they don't they will die. (maybe soon if I look at Vista which is a piece of crap)

harsh words...

Not to attack you or anything, but the fact that it's not perfect has nothing to do with it being free.

It's not perfect because Microsoft only opened up their proprietary formats a while ago, and as such much of the code was reverse engineered.

Quote from Wikipedia:

One of the greatest challenges is its ability to be truly cross compatible with other applications. Since Openoffice.org is forced to reverse engineer proprietary binary formats due to unavailability of open specifications, slight formatting incompatibilities tend to exist when files are saved in non-native format. For example, a complex .doc document formatted under OpenOffice.org, is usually not displayed with the correct format when opened with Microsoft Office.

You might also want to keep in mind that no one does anything for free. Money generated directly by writing a program is hardly the only ways to gain satisfaction.

For example: When everyone uses Open Office, these guys will be able to charge for professional support, and validly claim that they are better than the 1000x other people who are giving support because they /wrote/ the software.

OR:

Have it on their resumes that in their own time they worked on a highly succesful project like Open Office. Something like that might score you even more points than having another job reference there.

OR:

Gain personal satisfact from a job well done.

etc etc etc.

Know that people often have the wrong idea about Open Source. While you may not always be allowed to charge for the product itself, you are always able to charge for services rendered.

Take Apache for example, the most popular web server on earth. You cannot download it and then sell it, but look at all the hosting companies and how they are generating profit by using that behind the scenes, and charging you for hosting your website.

Most of the Linksys routers are running Linux, and they are selling like hotcakes. So, for Linksys they saved money and time by not having to write all the software running on their routers themselves, and are still making just as much money as they would have, had they written it themselves / or bought commercial software like embedded Windows...

Finally, there has been much, and still is alot of monetary backing for the project. Just because it's free, doesn't mean no one gets paid to do it...
 
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Cool.. Everybody loves free software but this can be a killer to innovation. Sad to say this but if there is nothing commercial happening and there is no income for the developers I fail to see what will drive innovation in the future of Open Office and Open Source for that matter. Microsoft is evil but they rule the Desktop market and the reason they do is because they innovate. (with hangups and all) If they don't they will die. (maybe soon if I look at Vista which is a piece of crap)

harsh words...

There are plenty of other ways of making money from open source. That's where the innovation lies. Companies like Canonical (Ubuntu), Red Hat, Turbocash, etc... all know how to make money and keep going and keep developing. The money has nothing to do with it being commercial software.

Read here for more info...

http://www.builderau.com.au/strateg...from-Open-source/0,339028271,339191343,00.htm

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Database/How-to-Make-Money-Off-Open-Source/

and plenty other Google Articles....

http://www.google.com/search?q=open...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
 
Cool.. Everybody loves free software but this can be a killer to innovation. Sad to say this but if there is nothing commercial happening and there is no income for the developers I fail to see what will drive innovation in the future of Open Office and Open Source for that matter. Microsoft is evil but they rule the Desktop market and the reason they do is because they innovate. (with hangups and all) If they don't they will die. (maybe soon if I look at Vista which is a piece of crap)

harsh words...

As already said Open Source can make money - but maybe think of it this way; it is perfect for competition ... because price is no longer an issue - and if someone decides to fork a project and build their own version then things can only get better - in other words everybody has a bit of everybody else's so if they want to stay on top they need to keep innovating
 
Few users need the added features in M$ Office

You can view all Microsoft Office documents in Open Office. However as Microsoft is stingy :p they do not support Open Office document format in Microsoft Office.

To go one step further though you can "save as" in Open Office as a Microsoft Office file format to view it in Microsoft Office so well done to Open Office!! :) in fact you can "save as" a lot of things in Open Office making it so much more user friendly. No more excuses that you can't send someone a format they can't open! :)

For the average user, MS Office does not have anything that OpenOffice can't offer. There are a couple of advanced features which probably a small percentage of users use that you can't get in OpenOffice. These include if your company uses Outlook for calendaring.

Revision tracking in MS Office is slightly more user-friendly (bubbles on the right hand side).

You will probably only really need MS Office if you work for a company that is really tied into Microsoft, and you need to make use of products like Sharepoint and Exchange.

For home and small business users, there is probably no reason to use MS Office. If they wanted to, many larger companies could also free themselves from MS Office.
 
MS Office 2003 can't even open a .docx file without a plugin, so maybe it will be the same for OO. :D

From the article:

And for those that still need to work with other Microsoft Office users, OpenOffice 3.0 includes a full array of Office 2007 format filter, so users can open, edit and save documents in .doc, .xls, .ppt formats among others.

This means it will work with docx.
 
Yawn! Its list of features pales in comparison to the Office feature set.
Spose thats why they cant charge for it.
 
Doesnt connect to exchange server without using OWA/POP3 .... so nope, no go for me.
 
Cool.. Everybody loves free software but this can be a killer to innovation. Sad to say this but if there is nothing commercial happening and there is no income for the developers I fail to see what will drive innovation in the future of Open Office and Open Source for that matter. Microsoft is evil but they rule the Desktop market and the reason they do is because they innovate. (with hangups and all) If they don't they will die. (maybe soon if I look at Vista which is a piece of crap)

harsh words...

Sheesh - if money is the only thing making you want to be a better person, you are a sad individual.
 
Oh, whew. I thought there for one minute Moederloos would forget to make a personal attack on someone with a different opinion to his.

True to form he came through.
 
I've switched to Open Office a short while ago, and find i can do everything i need to do on it. It's missing a replacement for Outlook, though. I'm currently using Thunderbird, but i'm having issues with my signature and a couple of other things. Any suggestions on what i could use instead of Thunderbird. Please exclude programs like incredimail, i don't need all that extra rubbish they put on your pc.
 
I've switched to Open Office a short while ago, and find i can do everything i need to do on it. It's missing a replacement for Outlook, though. I'm currently using Thunderbird, but i'm having issues with my signature and a couple of other things. Any suggestions on what i could use instead of Thunderbird. Please exclude programs like incredimail, i don't need all that extra rubbish they put on your pc.

Incredimail = teh :sick:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_FAQs_:_Signatures

that should be of any help?
 
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