Ouch! JZ snubs Thabo

no surprises there. Jacob Zuma is not much older than Julius Malema when it comes to maturity.
 
Can't wait to see how he f*cks up.. cause if you start like this... its virtually written in stone...
I do however hope we are all wrong about this Moegoe ... but very unlikely... very very unlikely
You can't expect no fire ... where there's always been smoke

Hopefully his stupidity will benefit the poor... damn.. I'm one of them :D... but cursed too... cause I'm white ;)
 
blunomore said:
I was in the gym, listening to JZ's speech in Parliament this afternoon. He mentioned Madiba and Kgalema by name, but NOT ONE reference to Mbeki.

IMO, he would have gained more political miles out of his speech by being the magnanimous and forgiving leader than the one that tries to get even by pretending his enemy does not exist.
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Maybe it's because the drama isn't over and Mbeki is still trying to hurt him. I blame Thabo for the rumpus. He's a stubborn old goat.
 
Sackboy said:
Mbeki is accused of being behind COPE, for a start (denied). The NPA uncovered references to an anti-Zuma campaign with someone 'big' involved. Again suspected to be T-Bone.
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When are you guys going to understand, that the crimes zuma committed took place BEFORE any political interference. Zuma is a crook, FIRST and only later got hit with the politics. Stupid ANC supporters, it's only a crime if you get caught ??
:mad:
 
blunomore said:
I was in the gym, listening to JZ's speech in Parliament this afternoon. He mentioned Madiba and Kgalema by name, but NOT ONE reference to Mbeki.

IMO, he would have gained more political miles out of his speech by being the magnanimous and forgiving leader than the one that tries to get even by pretending his enemy does not exist.
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Its everything we've come to expect. At Obama's inauguration both Bushes were present and very visible; despite the fact that they were not democrats. Its called a mature democracy. Which also, incidently, wouldn't allow a criminal to become President.
 
Balstrome said:
When are you guys going to understand, that the crimes zuma committed took place BEFORE any political interference. Zuma is a crook, FIRST and only later got hit with the politics. Stupid ANC supporters, it's only a crime if you get caught ??
:mad:
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I think you misunderstand what the beef Zuma has with T-Bone. I for one believe Zuma did all those fraudulent activities. So is everyone else in the ANC (at least the ones involved in the Arms deal). The beef Zuma has with T-Bone is that T-Bona targeted only Zuma because he was going to be next president.
 
Balstrome said:
When are you guys going to understand, that the crimes zuma committed took place BEFORE any political interference. Zuma is a crook, FIRST and only later got hit with the politics. Stupid ANC supporters, it's only a crime if you get caught ??
:mad:
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Innocent until proven guilty. Regardless of what he has done or if he did it, nothing has stuck so until something does he is presumed innocent. I am no ANC supporter but the rape charge for me was bogus and i do not believe he raped anyone. Time will tell with Zuma and he is president now so i feel people should give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
 
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killadoob said:
Innocent until proven guilty. Regardless of what he has done or if he did it, nothing has stuck so until something does he is presumed innocent. I am no ANC supporter but the rape charge for me was bogus and i do not believe he raped anyone. Time will tell with Zuma and he is president now so i feel people should give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
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"Innocent until proven guilty" is a legal requirement, but surly we can make up our own minds. Why should I give him the benefit of the doubt if he does not want to go on trail to prove his innocence?
 
killadoob said:
Innocent until proven guilty. Regardless of what he has done or if he did it, nothing has stuck so until something does he is presumed innocent. I am no ANC supporter but the rape charge for me was bogus and i do not believe he raped anyone. Time will tell with Zuma and he is president now so i feel people should give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
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This isn't a court of law, killadoob. As such we can presume Zuma to be as guilty as sin, if we believe it to be so.
 
BBSA said:
"Innocent until proven guilty" is a legal requirement, but surly we can make up our own minds. Why should I give him the benefit of the doubt if he does not want to go on trail to prove his innocence?
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...No one goes on trial to prove their innocence. The burden of proof of guilt lies with the prosecution.
To this end the prosecution was unable to get their dicks in a row. They tried to screw Zuma but missed by a mile. :D
 
BBSA said:
Why should I give him the benefit of the doubt if he does not want to go on trail to prove his innocence?
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While I concede he has dodged the court room with aplomb, wouldn't it have been impossible had the case and evidence against him been significant enough?
 
JungleBoy said:
...No one goes on trial to prove their innocence. The burden of proof of guilt lies with the prosecution.
To this end the prosecution was unable to get their dicks in a row. They tried to screw Zuma but missed by a mile. :D
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:eek::eek::eek:
 
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