Outa warns government could hijack fuel price decrease to pay for e-tolls

Tman* said:
As long as the people in the Freestate, Limpopo, NW, Eastern Cape, etc etc dont have to pay, then I would say. Go ahead.
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Hang on, we're raising 75% of the children in those provinces!
 
system32 said:
IIRC, a 10c/l for 8 years would have paid off the inflated/corrupt etolls construction bill.
Now they want 30c/l with no time limit.
They can F*** Off.
I'm getting an electric car.
EDIT:
Before you ask, I'll charge on from home solar.
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They'll probably make more money off you when you buy your electric car than from the fuel bought over the life of the ICE car.
 
How the F did we get to 30c/l???

Budget
GFIP project was budgeted - R6.3b.
Not R23b that SCAMRAL wasted.
How cost of Gauteng freeway system rose from R6.3bn to R90bn | The Star | 24 May 2012, 09:00am
see https://web.archive.org/web/20170525125302/https://www.iol.co.za/the-star/how-cost-of-gauteng-freeway-system-rose-from-r63bn-to-r90bn-1303459

Already Paid
There was a March 2012 and May 2015 Government Taxpayers bailout of SANRAL’s for GFIP R8.6 billion total.
see gov budgets
We already paid more than the R6.3b.

The e-toll collection mechanism.
e-toll it is very inefficient, 74% of the money collected going to Austria Kapsch Trafficom.
see https://ewn.co.za/2017/06/12/outa-austrian-company-gets-74-of-sa-e-toll-income-1
e-toll will always have very low compliance ratios - only 14% of traffic fines get paid.
see https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Few-in-SA-pay-traffic-fines-Report-20121230

If SANRAL had used a small fuel levy, GFIP would already have been paid off.
There are are +/-1.94b liters of fuel consumed in ZA per month.
see http://www.energy.gov.za/files/media/SA FUEL SALES VOLUME/2018-National-Aggregated-FSV.xls
You can do your own calculations how long it would tale to recover R6b.
Hint: 10c gives R2.323b per year.

Road Improvement
Remember, only 185km of existing roads were improved.
In most cases they just painted new lanes.

Now they want 30c/l !!!


 
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wingnut771 said:
They'll probably make more money off you when you buy your electric car than from the fuel bought over the life of the ICE car.
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How are they going to make more money?

Is SARS going to tax sun light?
[Don't give them any ideas]

In US Government just approved a $7,500 rebate if you buy electric.
 
Is the govt inviting civil war?
If ALL MONIES FROM CORRUPTION and tenderpreneuring is recovered then there is more than enough to reduce a prices and taxes
 
Corelli said:
As long as the Cape Townians dont have to pay for the Gauteng petrol price increase, then I would say. Go ahead.

But if you want the entire country to pay because youre corrupt officials pilfered all the money for improving Gauteng roads, then now want us to cover for it. Then honestly. GOOD LUCK
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And if they do what you think is going to happen ? We'll be unhappy the DA will make some noise and then the ANC will get its way ..... they don't need luck they will do as they please
 
system32 said:
How are they going to make more money?

Is SARS going to tax sun light?
[Don't give them any ideas]

In US Government just approved a $7,500 rebate if you buy electric.
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Our government taxes electric cars twice or, put in another way, about half the price of an EV is tax.
 
skusku said:
So if I live 1000km away from gauteng, will I also pay the etoll fees even if I never go to there?
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You won't have to pay if you promise to keep Benedict Arsehole from leaving there...
 
So if implemented, how would it work? If the expected drop is R2.67/L and the levy is say 30c, does the decrease then only become R2.37?
 
This anc terrorist government is really playing with fire and fire is going to be where they find themselves. People are not going to play their stupid terrorist games.
 
shearder said:
This anc terrorist government is really playing with fire and fire is going to be where they find themselves. People are not going to play their stupid terrorist games.
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yes because when the EFF come into power it will be all daisies and harp music..
 
Jan said:
Big petrol price drop could be hijacked with e-toll levy

The Organisation Undoing Tax Abuse (Outa) worries that finance minister Enoch Godongwana will use an expected fuel price drop in September as an opportunity to squeeze in a levy to replace Gauteng's e-tolls.

Outa warned that Godongwana might increase the fuel levy by 25-30 cents per litre to cover the Gauteng freeway improvement bonds, something the e-toll "debacle" failed to do.
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They must be carefull with this move.it could bring big unrest.country fed up with anc
 
They should have used PART of the fuel levy for this in 2014 or 2015. GFIP inflated "debt" could have been paid off in 1 year from HALF the fuel levy of either of those years.
 
Corelli said:
As long as the Cape Townians dont have to pay for the Gauteng petrol price increase, then I would say. Go ahead.

But if you want the entire country to pay because youre corrupt officials pilfered all the money for improving Gauteng roads, then now want us to cover for it. Then honestly. GOOD LUCK
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The whole country pays for all the roads. Some municipalities are just better at utilising the money. But with that CT them vs us mindset I will suggest Cape Town needs to pay for the JHB ring road.
 
Moosedrool said:
The whole country pays for all the roads. Some municipalities are just better at utilising the money. But with that CT them vs us mindset I will suggest Cape Town needs to pay for the JHB ring road.
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It's bizarre. The money that would have been collected from the tolls would have went to national government, which would have been distributed to *shock* the Western Cape...
 
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