Overclocking advice for intel dual cores, please.

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I'm thinking of getting an E2160, as I've seen it OCs really well. I want a bit of clarity on OCing Intel.

Apparently with P965 chipsets there's an issue where the ram and CPU are linked and therefore OC at the same time when you change the FSB apparently.

What do you have to whatch out for in this case? Will standard ddr2-800 still get me a good result, and not make my Mem fry too early?

Apparently Nvidia's chipsets overcome this issue 'cos you can change mem cpu speeds independantly, is this right, how much of a performance difference is there likely to be in that scenario?

Also I was wandering is the p965 issue of having mem/cpu linked timings applicable to the P35 chipsets aswell?

Thanks.
 
P35 cpu mem not linked. I am using G31 now, linked. I got to lower the multiplier in mem to compensate the increase of FSB.
 
wtf is the problem that everyone wants to overclock? :sick:
Just buy a faster system. Overclocking doesn't make a very marked difference in performance anyway.
Overclocking is like driving a car at full throttle all the time - not very good for the engine...

Gone are the good ol' days of running a 286 or XT in "Turbo" mode! :))
 
Joe; maybe they can't afford too? I can't... If i can do a safe overclock, I will.
I'm not full of money eh!
 
Well, maybe, I wouldn't do it if I thought it was totally bad.

But from my research you can get really good results, E2160 can go to like E6700 speeds a lot of the time just on air cooling. If that brings down the lifespan of my cpu to 3 years, I don't really give a damn. Just google E2160 overclocking.

I can't "just buy a faster system", I'm desperately trying to get enough for a moderate one as it is.

INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6750 -> R1835
INTEL DUAL CORE E2160 -> R664

There is no fricking way I'm spending R1835 on a processor. That's almost half my whole budget for Mobo, cpu, ram, Graphics Card, Psu and case. Now my screen has turned yellow I think I need a screen too.

So does anyone have constructive advice relevant to my initial query?
 
Joe Masehare said:
wtf is the problem that everyone wants to overclock? :sick:
Just buy a faster system. Overclocking doesn't make a very marked difference in performance anyway.
Overclocking is like driving a car at full throttle all the time - not very good for the engine...

Gone are the good ol' days of running a 286 or XT in "Turbo" mode! :))
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Dude, if you don't understand the whole meaning of oc'ing, then you don't possess that deep, pulsating, driven passion for technology. I shall oc' my cpu, gpu, ram, ... heck i'll oc' anything thats in my PC :p
 
Joe Masehare said:
Just buy a faster system. Overclocking doesn't make a very marked difference in performance anyway.
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Some people don't have the cash. Some are managing 100% OCs on the CPU. If that falls under "not a very marked difference" then your a lost case.
 
Joe Masehare said:
wtf is the problem that everyone wants to overclock? :sick:
Just buy a faster system. Overclocking doesn't make a very marked difference in performance anyway.
Overclocking is like driving a car at full throttle all the time - not very good for the engine...

Gone are the good ol' days of running a 286 or XT in "Turbo" mode! :))
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Oh noez! That's like telling an average every day person to go and buy a lamborghini, instead of just driving there golf faster... Brilliant.
 
By the way what do you think is better?

I prefer being able to independantly OC the mem/cpu, I have never OC'ed before so I think that's safer. But I don't really understand how it would work the other way.
Mainly I want to know if it will be okay with standard ddr2-800, maybe kingston valueram.

I know sometimes people set their memory speed down to 667 or 533 before OC'ing, but I don't really know how to work out the changes to memory speed when increasing the FSB.

Also I was looking at this BIOSTAR T-SERIES 965P, cos it's most affordable Intel board from what I see (with the features that I'd like, except no FireWire.) Apparently it OC's reasonably. What else would you recommend?

My set up will probably be:

CPU - E2160
MOBO - Biostar mentioned above
RAM - 2gb ddr2-800
GPU - HD3850, maybe HD3870, maybe 8800gt depending on cash.
PSU - Zalman 460w - 500w
Box - Whatever cheap tomato crate I can find to put it all in (thus is the extent of my limited budget, for all you "just buy a faster system" types :-)
 
Even with the P35 boards ram is tied to fsb, checked on an asus and a giga board. Only board i have with untied (can't think of the proper word) is a 680 board i used to use.

Took an E2140 from 1.6 to 3.2 for the fun of it last week, rock steady and good temps. Removed it for an E8400
 
I'm sure you mean 680i nVidia chipset, I know that nVidia's are not tied together.

From that angle I was looking at a 650i chipset board, basically the same, few less features.
 
Threepwood said:
By the way what do you think is better?

I prefer being able to independantly OC the mem/cpu, I have never OC'ed before so I think that's safer. But I don't really understand how it would work the other way.
Mainly I want to know if it will be okay with standard ddr2-800, maybe kingston valueram.

I know sometimes people set their memory speed down to 667 or 533 before OC'ing, but I don't really know how to work out the changes to memory speed when increasing the FSB.

Also I was looking at this BIOSTAR T-SERIES 965P, cos it's most affordable Intel board from what I see (with the features that I'd like, except no FireWire.) Apparently it OC's reasonably. What else would you recommend?

My set up will probably be:

CPU - E2160
MOBO - Biostar mentioned above
RAM - 2gb ddr2-800
GPU - HD3850, maybe HD3870, maybe 8800gt depending on cash.
PSU - Zalman 460w - 500w
Box - Whatever cheap tomato crate I can find to put it all in (thus is the extent of my limited budget, for all you "just buy a faster system" types :-)
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Check the OC thread in the sticky sticky. :) There are some tutorials there on how to OC.
 
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