Ovi Music versus iTunes

[rpm]

Ovi Music an iTunes killer?

Nokia just launched its rebranded music downloading services and Ovi Music is DRM free and platform agnostic

 

[Fader4]

i dont pay for music, i pay for my uncapped and thats it.

 

[kilps]

It would be interesting to know if the mp3s are watermarked...

 

[F1ve_Claw]

Nice to see nice international companies giving us support in our generally neglected country, unlike itunes . .Cough. . .

 

[Dyl106]

For downloading the odd local track I might like .... right on! But other than that ....

 

[pkid]

This is a really positive development but was I the only one that thought that the article was a massive Nokia advert? Full marks to Nokia for doing this but come on Mybroadband.

 

[VioAdmin]

i dont pay for music, i pay for my uncapped and thats it.

Co-Sign.
I only buy albums from iTUNES for 3 of my fav artists as their music is my monthly motivation to get work done! Other than that, stream and download the rest, for free.

 

[Hackson]

Shame Nokia you should know better that to to something like this!

 

[FoRmFacTor]

piracy is not cool.

stealing is stealing.

i am not going to say i have never downloaded a track illegally in the past but since nokia music launched i deleted all my illegal downloads and bought most of them back off nokia music.

now that it is drm free i am redownloading them to get them in that format.

The music and film industry is suffering because of piracy.

in 10 years try and look for a good movie or good songs without proper funding because people dont paid for what they produce.

What the hell makes it ok to download stuff illegally?

What gives you the right to enjoy other peoples work without paying for it?

what if your employer refuses to pay your salary next month because he feels like using your services for free?

people who do this are d bags.

rant over...

 

[arf9999]

Jan, please fix your use of apostrophe in "I'm not even among the journalist's who've received pre-release versions of the Nokia N8."

 

[g1mme]

Lame, Lame, Lame
Itune is missing out, they said something about licensing issues but then how is nokia able to get licenses to sell in SA but not Itunes.
Blerrie dissapointing

 

[Valis]

piracy is not cool.

stealing is stealing.

Pirating is not stealing.

The music and film industry is suffering because of piracy.

No they're not, this is industry propaganda. Their profits run into hundreds of billions of dollars a year, how is this suffering? If they are making a tiny fraction less profit than usual they should update their business models to suit the 21st century instead of trying to rip people off even more than they normally do.

in 10 years try and look for a good movie or good songs without proper funding because people don't (get) paid for what they produce.

The artists that produce these works get paid almost nothing at the moment anyway, the parasitic corporations take all the money. I'm quite happy to pay the artist directly, those that put up the facility to do so. Artists that are greedy and/or still prefer to get ripped-off by the parasitic corporations don't deserve even the little bit they would've gotten. Besides, there hasn't been any good movies/music coming from the corporate studios/music producers in at least the last twenty years, starting with SAW (Stock, Aiken and Waterman, look it up). All the good stuff is coming from independents, which I support.

What the hell makes it ok to download stuff illegally?

The parasitic corporations ripping people off for third-rate rubbish.

What gives you the right to enjoy other peoples work without paying for it?

Like I said, I do pay for the work that actually deserves payment. The rest wouldn't have gotten my money anyway.

what if your employer refuses to pay your salary next month because he feels like using your services for free?

That is a completely false analogy. I can only do one set of work, and I'm the only person that can do it. Say I figure out a way to do ten times the work with the same amount of effort, should my employer suddenly start paying me ten times the salary?

Think of it this way; say I shoplift a CD from a store, then they have lost something of value. They don't have the CD any more so they can't sell it so they've lost something. Now say I download that same CD off the internet, they haven't lost anything! They still have the original CD, they can still sell it and make money!

The problem is people are mired in 20th century thinking when we are living in the 21st century.

people who do this are d bags.

So are people who comment without doing their research and thereby turn into unwitting shills for the industry

 

[Fader4]

piracy is not cool.

stealing is stealing.

i am not going to say i have never downloaded a track illegally in the past but since nokia music launched i deleted all my illegal downloads and bought most of them back off nokia music.

now that it is drm free i am redownloading them to get them in that format.

The music and film industry is suffering because of piracy.

in 10 years try and look for a good movie or good songs without proper funding because people dont paid for what they produce.

What the hell makes it ok to download stuff illegally?

What gives you the right to enjoy other peoples work without paying for it?

what if your employer refuses to pay your salary next month because he feels like using your services for free?

people who do this are d bags.

rant over...

congrats, you have just exposed yourself as an uninformed drone who buys the entertainment industry's silly propaganda, in my opinion anyone who lines corporate pockets and reinforces exorbitant prices is a fool

 

[Lycanthrope]

It can be if... they decide to allow you to buy music using your airtime like they do (used to?) the OVI Store.

Also, if they implement a kind of Steam-esque client where you can have a list of music purchased and be able to browse through a music library store it would be awesome.

@ FoRmFacToR -- ignorant much?

 

[LazyLion]

piracy is not cool.

stealing is stealing.

i am not going to say i have never downloaded a track illegally in the past but since nokia music launched i deleted all my illegal downloads and bought most of them back off nokia music.

now that it is drm free i am redownloading them to get them in that format.

The music and film industry is suffering because of piracy.

in 10 years try and look for a good movie or good songs without proper funding because people dont paid for what they produce.

What the hell makes it ok to download stuff illegally?

What gives you the right to enjoy other peoples work without paying for it?

what if your employer refuses to pay your salary next month because he feels like using your services for free?

people who do this are d bags.

rant over...

Boo Hoo... and Get a Clue.

 

[surfs-up]

In Nokia's wildest dreams, dream on Nokia.....

 

[FoRmFacTor]

I cant believe i am having to defend my view that it is not right to steal?

You talk about only paying for content when it DESERVES to be paid for? Who sets the criteria for what deserves to be paid for and what does not?

Would you just take a TATA out of the dealership and keep it for yourself because you feel like it does not deserve your payment?

So what if they make hundreds of billions (stats?). That dopes not give you the right to say "eh, they make enough money anyway so i wont pay".

I am not brainwashed. I simply understand the fact that if you want a piece of art by an artist and that artist wants you to pay for it, you have to pay for it.

Why is that such a foreign concept?

And yes, i follow movie trends. I follow international and domestic gross's(sp?) for movies. I try my best to get data on how much money is made by cd sales and digital sales.

I never said the industry is going to collapse tomorrow, i was just mentioning the fact that continuously siphoning money off the entertainment industry will one day cause the quality of features and the like to decline.

Why spend hundreds of millions on a movie which will be stolen anyway?

It is very sad when people actually justify stealing.

It does not matter how much the companies make.

They put money into a type of media, if you want that media you got to pay for it.

simple.

 

[Lycanthrope]

I cant believe i am having to defend my view that it is not right to steal?

You talk about only paying for content when it DESERVES to be paid for? Who sets the criteria for what deserves to be paid for and what does not?

Would you just take a TATA out of the dealership and keep it for yourself because you feel like it does not deserve your payment?

So what if they make hundreds of billions (stats?). That dopes not give you the right to say "eh, they make enough money anyway so i wont pay".

I am not brainwashed. I simply understand the fact that if you want a piece of art by an artist and that artist wants you to pay for it, you have to pay for it.

Why is that such a foreign concept?

And yes, i follow movie trends. I follow international and domestic gross's(sp?) for movies. I try my best to get data on how much money is made by cd sales and digital sales.

I never said the industry is going to collapse tomorrow, i was just mentioning the fact that continuously siphoning money off the entertainment industry will one day cause the quality of features and the like to decline.

Why spend hundreds of millions on a movie which will be stolen anyway?

It is very sad when people actually justify stealing.

It does not matter how much the companies make.

They put money into a type of media, if you want that media you got to pay for it.

simple.

You are arguing a very old, very tired, very debunked point in a place where most understand the meaning behind copyright infringement, how it actually affects developers/publishers as well as what, generally, necessitates it. You might even find it amusing that DRM plays the biggest part in what necessitates and encourages copyright infringement. I'm afraid no-one here, myself included, is interested in explaining it for the billionth time.

Simple.

 

[FoRmFacTor]

I am not asking for an explanation into a sordid view on how pirating is "ok".

I am merely stating my opinion.

It is a moral issue for me more than anything else.

Someone charges you for something. You have the choice to pay for it and receive it or not pay for it and leave it.

Simple.

From my point of view you cant explain away taking something which has a value for no value at all without an agreement with the supplier.

Pirating takes a heavier toll when there are people who you know personally who do suffer from diminishing returns because of everyones lackluster approach to it.

I guess i am of a different mind when it comes to right and wrong.

 

[Imminent]

big companies steal.. it is written down in their constitution. The company who can steal the most the fastest will be the most successful. Why do you think in our country we just happen to have no competition in the telecoms field, and we are suffering from price fixing on all levels of our commercial industries. These companies have got us by the balls.. I don't care if they are losing a little profit from piracy, it just means its time for change. They just don't want to change the structure that has made them billions and billions over the years.


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You are arguing a very old, very tired, very debunked point in a place where most understand the meaning behind copyright infringement, how it actually affects developers/publishers as well as what, generally, necessitates it. You might even find it amusing that DRM plays the biggest part in what necessitates and encourages copyright infringement. I'm afraid no-one here, myself included, is interested in explaining it for the billionth time.

Simple.

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