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Haha! Just saw this little gem on my ISP network notice board...

[IS Abuse #xxxxxx] Update: Notice ID: 131-xxxxxxx Copyright Infringement Notification

Subject: Notice ID: 131-xxxxxxx Copyright Infringement Notification
Sender: xxx @ imagine.co.za

Update:
We have received a complaint as outlined below, from an IP allocated
to your company. Please investigate this issue and deal with your
client/user/employee as necessary. Please inform us of the actions
taken and the outcome of your investigations.

Service Identifier: [email protected]

Tele Danmark Internet RAS

Notice ID:131-xxxxxxx
Notice Date:5 Nov 2007 18:29:37 GMT

Dear Sir or Madam:

BayTSP, Inc. ("BayTSP") swears under penalty of perjury that Lionsgate Films has authorized BayTSP to act as its non-exclusive agent for copyright infringement notification. BayTSP's search of the protocol listed below has detected infringements of Lionsgate Films copyright interests on your IP addresses as detailed in the attached report.

BayTSP has reasonable good faith belief that Lionsgate Films, its agents, or the law does not authorize use of the material in the manner complained of in the attached report. The information provided herein is accurate to the best of our knowledge. Therefore, this letter is an official notification to effect removal of the detected infringement listed in the attached report. The Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, the Universal Copyright Convention, as well as bilateral treaties with other countries allow for protection of client's copyrighted work even beyond U.S. borders. The attached documentation specifies the exact location of the infringement.

We hereby request that you immediately remove or block access to the infringing material, as specified in the copyright laws, and insure the user refrains from using or sharing with others Lionsgate Films materials in the future.

Further, we believe that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing activity We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.

Please send us a prompt response indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter, making sure to reference the Notice ID number above in your response.

If you do not wish to reply by email, please use our Web Interface by clicking on the following link:

Note: If your email program has inserted line breaks into either the email or web links above, you can copy and paste the entire link in to you email program, or favorite web browser, respectively.

Nothing in this letter shall serve as a waiver of any rights or remedies of Lionsgate Films with respect to the alleged infringement, all of which are expressly reserved. Should you need to contact me, I may be reached at the following.

Regards,
Nicole Manske
Compliance Administrator
BayTSP.com Inc.
PO Box 1314 - Los Gatos, CA 95031
Phone:: 408-341-2300 fax:: 408-341-2399
[email protected]

*pgp public key is available on the key server at ldap://keyserver.pgp.com
Note: The information transmitted in this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from all computers.
This infringement notice contains an XML tag that can be used to automate the processing of this data. If you would like more information on how to use this tag please contact BayTSP.

Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID:131- xxxxxxx
Asset: Weeds: Season 3
Protocol: BitTorrent
IP Address: 196.209.107.62
DNS: c1-62-12.wblv.isadsl.co.za
File Name: Weeds.S03E01.HDTV.XviD-SFM.avi
File Size: 244310016
Timestamp: 2 Nov 2007 21:00:01 GMT
Last Seen Date: 2 Nov 2007 21:00:01 GMT
URL: http://tracker1.istole.it:60500/announce
Username (if available):




BayTSP on behalf of Lions Gate Films
Nicole Manske, Compliance Administrator
P.O. Box 1314, Los Gatos, California 95031

(408) 341-2300,(408) 341-2399
[email protected]


Tele Danmark Internet RAS

[email protected]


2007-11-02T21:00:01.000Z
196.209.107.62

c1-62-12.wblv.isadsl.co.za
BitTorrent

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That is the problem with torrents. You can't just download illegal content, you have to upload it too. Uploading implies the distribution of copyrighted material.

It's the copyright infringment equivalent of being a drug dealer, rather than being a mere junkie.
 
Haha! I reckon it would be quite fun if you lived in Uganda or one of the seriously dangerous countries. I'd make a whole lot of pirated movies available and when they mail me and tell me they're going to get me I'll tell them to fly over and try... Hahaha! Imagine one of those dolly American lawyer's faces when she reads that...

"Uhm, I think there was some mistake... This person couldn't possibly be pirating movies!"

Hahaha!
 
Question....

Ok, so its not ok to DL a torrent of a TV series...why is it that we are allowed to tape episodes of the same series on TV ?

I always wondered about that?

any possible answers
 
Gory51 said:
Question....

Ok, so its not ok to DL a torrent of a TV series...why is it that we are allowed to tape episodes of the same series on TV ?

I always wondered about that?

any possible answers
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Not this again :D
 
It's fine to record tv shows and use them for private use only, and not to distribute them. Same goes for any other copyrighted material. If you could only download these torrents without uploading them, under SA law, you would be able to do so without any fears of retribution. But seeing as you are uploading (ie distributing) you are breaking the law and could be held liable.
 
'infringement notice' from some country whose law doesn't apply in ZA.txt >> /dev/null

I can't see why they would bother passing this on...
 
Ok...my question above was hypothetical.....

So here is another.

What If i downloaded an episode....or even a movie.....not from these torrents or such where I posibly have to upload or something....but from some random website...? Am I still liabale for an infringement, or is it the website in question, as they have provided the episode for download.
 
Gory51 said:
What If i downloaded an episode....or even a movie.....not from these torrents or such where I posibly have to upload or something....but from some random website...? Am I still liabale for an infringement, or is it the website in question, as they have provided the episode for download.
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Illegal content on websites are generally "posted" by users, and such websites disclaim responsibilty for the content, except that if they are made aware of illegal content they will remove it. The person postmg the content, if identified, could be liable.

You are standing on much better ground if you only download, not upload. That makes content from news servers and web-based file sharing sites like Rapidshare safer than torrents or p2p apps like Limewire. Of course, if you upload illegal content to news servers and web servers you are putting yourself in the same rocky boat.

"Copying" for personal use can be defended. Soon as you become a "distributer", however, your defence crumbles.
 
Nocturnity said:
Haha! I reckon it would be quite fun if you lived in Uganda or one of the seriously dangerous countries. I'd make a whole lot of pirated movies available and when they mail me and tell me they're going to get me I'll tell them to fly over and try... Hahaha! Imagine one of those dolly American lawyer's faces when she reads that...

"Uhm, I think there was some mistake... This person couldn't possibly be pirating movies!"

Hahaha!
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Totally OT but I had to have a good chuckle at this statement. I know one country seriously more dangerous than Uganda ... SA!
 
Why use torrents?

Why does everybody use torrents? Its so much easier to get a rapidshare account and then get the rapidshare links for what you want to download. There are lots of good sites out there providing all the links and rapidshare is so cheap, on £6 per month.
 
drevil5000 said:
Why does everybody use torrents? Its so much easier to get a rapidshare account and then get the rapidshare links for what you want to download. There are lots of good sites out there providing all the links and rapidshare is so cheap, on £6 per month.
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Because rapidshare sucks. Torrents is free
 
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