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Paris Protests over Pension reforms
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Evidence for this?
The protests are overtly socialist in nature. They have targeted all reforms that seek to privatise their pensions (i.e. BlackRock). There demands have been explicitly Socialist and demand the entrenchment of extended social welfare.
I am trying to understand why people who have raged for years against "leftism and Socialism are evil" are supporting one of the most prolific pro-Socialist protests and movements in years.
I was in Paris recently and I work for a French company. The media focuses on the protests that gain the biggest attention. The most vocal ones occur at night and are generally located around French Government buildings/locations.We actually planned a a couple of days away to go to Paris end of this month. Moulin Rouge is paid for already (non refundable)
Been holding out but these ****ing French ****s are ruining everything
You should be fine.
Excellent proletariat uprising against Capitalist overlords. Exactly as Marx predicted. French state pensions are being privatised by BlackRock. A good Socialist back lash against the largess of Capitalism.
I don't think you know what "Communism" means.
Macron is reducing the burden of the welfare state, seeking to privatise pensions and to curtail Socialist policies. Literally opposite of communism.
NarrowBandFtw
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errr ... the very fact that there even is a "state pension" makes it socialism
but hey whatever, if the welfare recipients sucking on the government's teat want to riot I'm all for it, so long as Macron gets the guillotine
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Ron made history to be the first mybber to call JOB. Have a listen. Our community in Midrand is so proud of its son, I tell ya.
NarrowBandFtw
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just speak loudly with a German accent, they'll run away from you in no timeWe actually planned a a couple of days away to go to Paris end of this month. Moulin Rouge is paid for already (non refundable
Been holding out but these ****ing French ****s are ruining everything
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Interesting that dalits have now become political commentators 
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Exactly and trying to reduce the state pension, transfer it to private companies is the hallmark of Capitalism.
So I am confused why all of a sudden, some of the most ardent anti-Communists and Anti-Socialists are against these capitalist polices and are supporting the calls for expanded Socialism?
It is the radical left that are driving these protests. Noting that the Socialist candidate in the recent elections ran on a platform that sought to reduce the retirement age. Far right groups have come out in support of Macron and resisted protests and tried to undermine student and Union groups who are organising these protests.
Some comments from Socialist circles -
I commend you for aligning with Marx and supporting some of the core tenants of the Communist Manifesto -
I'm all here for the lurch of MYBB into Communism and Socialism. Loving the how so many people have come out in support of Socialism.Interesting that dalits have now become political commentators
What a time to be alive!
NarrowBandFtw
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no it isn't, the government is executing on those actions to the benefit of specific private companies, it remains state controlled, hence, socialism at best, communism when it gets real ugly
oh you are confused alright, confused enough to call something the government controls "capitalist"
and? the gibmedats want their free meal forever, big surprise, the "far right" which in France I can only imagine is actually still left-leaning just wants the status quo, neither group is running around with a manifesto or put much thought into anything beyond free meals and status quo
yup, you're confused
Macron has faced backlash on his privatisation plans. Why else would the protestors target Blackrock, alongside the French Government? Blackrock faced backlash in 2020 when the previous round of anti-Pension reform protests took place.
Blackrock is also a favourite target of the Extinction Rebellion protestors. Greta, is that you?
Reducing the Social Welfare burden on the state is an inherently anti-Socialist policy.
And right on cue, when a government faces a socialist backlash, they always lean right and go full on undemocratic and bypassed parliament to push his initiative through. Exactly what Marx predicts. Hence your alignment with key principles from the Communist Manifesto.
The protests are pro-Socialist in every way shape and form.
raising the retirement age by 2 years means the artisan workers will stay on longer and be able to train novices coming in.
its almost as if there was an event recently that wiped out some of the work force and the experience that goes with it...
it must suck working our ass off for so many years and have the goal posts moved just as you get to them, some peoples health deteriorates pretty fast at those ages. 2 years can mean a lot for some.
but hey, some tards are making a scene over socialism vs capitalism ... the clowns, they are here among us.
its almost as if there was an event recently that wiped out some of the work force and the experience that goes with it...
it must suck working our ass off for so many years and have the goal posts moved just as you get to them, some peoples health deteriorates pretty fast at those ages. 2 years can mean a lot for some.
but hey, some tards are making a scene over socialism vs capitalism ... the clowns, they are here among us.
Literally all the left, socialist, green and communist parties are supporting and organising these protests.
I mean here is one of the supporters of the protests symbol -
New Ecological and Social People's Union - Wikipedia
La France Insoumise - Wikipedia
Europe Ecology – The Greens - Wikipedia
Socialist Party (France) - Wikipedia
Radical Party of the Left - Wikipedia
New Anticapitalist Party - Wikipedia
Lutte Ouvrière - Wikipedia
French Communist Party - Wikipedia
NarrowBandFtw
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it's fine if you don't get it, wallow in ignorance
it doesn't particularly matter either, seeing Macron face yet more mass protests is always a good show
You guys are the ignorant ones.
Literally supporting communists, the greens, anti-capitalists and socialists.
You just skimmed the news, saw protests against Macron and went all in, without a clue of how your support for the protests is 180 degrees from your traditional ideological standpoint.
Macron is doing exactly what you would support and that is reducing the Social Welfare burden on the state. Unless you have changed your views on Social Welfare all of a sudden?
Illustrates how fleeting and shallow your ideologies are. Perhaps you are more Socialist than you care to understand? Or it is just another day of hypocrisy, but you are too ignorant to understand what is going on in France and how hypocritical your support of the protests is? Is it a "current thing" that you have latched on to, thinking since the protest is against a "WEF/GLOBALIST" it must be worth your approval? Some Horseshoe theory?
Anyway regardless of your misunderstanding here, Macron losing will be a huge win for Socialism in France and Europe. It will motivate Socialist parties to push for more reforms on the back of their successes in mobilising the masses over this event.
Much like the socialist May 68 protests in Paris, which brought about huge changes in France, a successful protest by the socialists in France in 2023 could usher in further expansive Socialist policies and reforms.
Since you are ignorant. I'll show you what the Socialists and Communists are saying.
French pension fight continues: Strike down Macron and austerity policies! - Socialist Alternative
France has been on strike with massive demonstrations across the country. According to the CGT trade union there are 700,000 on the streets of Paris alone. In Marseille there are 300,000, Nantes 80,000, Bordeaux 55,000. Supporters of ISA were actively involved. Below we publish a translated...
socialistalternative.info
Wow, with your support of these protests, the EFF would be supremely proud to have someone like you join their ranks.
Like I said, if these guys oust Macron, that is what they will be pushing for.
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