Pay more for electricity

You think it as simple as adding the 4%.

Let's try 14% increase on the rate and then 4% of that new amount. A bit more than 4%. Closer to 4.6%
 
You think it as simple as adding the 4%.

Let's try 14% increase on the rate and then 4% of that new amount. A bit more than 4%. Closer to 4.6%

Heh - I do not think it is so simple. I actually wrote just that on my post and then deleted it so as not to "go on".
Anyways, the 4% is a thumb suck.
I pay 43c per unit, so 2c extra is "about" 4%.
Mines etc pay 17c, so 2c for them is around 10% (too lazy to work it out properly :D )
 
Yeah - but the point is really in how things are presented to the public.

I have yet to meet anyone involved in the provision of electricity who does not lie.

Biggest liars are City Power because I have to deal with them the most. Eishkom lie everytime on e of them says anything. And now Manuel is lying too.

If your bill goes up by 14% you are being lied to. The rate that City Power provides electricity to you is different to that that they purchase from Eishkom. The base rate should increase by 14% and then the little lie that Manuel told of 4%. The City Power portion should only increase by the inflation rate.

You should not get a 14% increase - otherwise you have been gouged.

Keeping numbers simple:

Base cost is R10, City Power adds R10 for total of R20 bill.

Base cost is increased to R11.40 for Eishkom
Trevor adds another 4% bit to make it R11.86.
City Power do the 7% and their bit is R10.70
Total bill is R22.56
A 12.8% increase

Of course the actual number could be anywhere around that but if it is 14% then your municipality has gouged you.
 
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Base cost is R10, City Power adds R10 for total of R20 bill.

Base cost is increased to R11.40 for Eishkom
Trevor adds another 4% bit to make it R11.86.
City Power do the 7% and their bit is R10.70
Total bill is R22.56
A 12.8% increase

Of course the actual number could be anywhere around that but if it is 14% then your municipality has gouged you.

City power charge you 7% on the TOTAL. Eskom + THEIR markup.
 
Apparently Eskom exports (to neighbouring countries) electricity at half the rate that they sell for locally.
 
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Apparently Eskom export (to neighbouring countries) electricity at half the rate that they sell for locally.

Someone said the price was fixed in a new contract signed in Jan*.
So guess who will be subsidising those countries now?



*Corrections welcomed
 
when was the last time eskom put their pricing up?

is 18% really that much? an extra 20 or 30 bucks a month

if it means they will build a power station then bring it on

It seems you got an illegal connection? Then you naturally won't notice the yearly escalation over the past years and the future ones?
 
There i will disagree:

how many times a week does a wealthy person go to a restaurant, he doen't use electricity to kook

Where the lower income person uses a lot more to kook each day for the household.
Yeah. Rich people only eat out :rolleyes:

The poorest people in this country use kerosene and paraffin stoves to cook - very very few use electricity.
 
Like i said in another thread:

The rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer

No, this is a case of everyone getting poorer (except some BEE "coal" "suppliers" and some other corrupt individuals), but the poor will not be the worst hit, as they get free electricity anyway, so they are unlikely to bother to try curb their usage unless it's already over the free allocation, EVERYONE except the very rich will have to tighten their belts, and even the very rich will be paying more. Businesses will be hardest hit of all, but the (non-upper)middle classes will "feel this" the most, people like the average forum user here.

That line is trotted out and repeated like a religious mantra and sounds cynically clever but historically it just isn't true, if it was we'd all be starving to death in the veld by now, overall, in the long term, things are getting for everyone. There are always ups and downs, but nobody notices the ups, they just complain on the downs. 100 years ago nobody in SA had electricity at all, we had hardly any dams, there was far less agriculture, far less food, far less water, nearly no drinking water, no cars, no TVs, no microwaves, no cellphones, few schools/universities etc. etc. ... no, things are not bad at all, the "poor" by and large even seem to have excess disposable income to spend on luxuries like fancy hairdos, boozing it up, cellphones etc., we've long since passed the point where people are starving to death here (just 150 - 200 years ago), and the far greater wealth of the country allows a far greater population to be supported and fed and clothed than ever before.

I know literally hundreds of people who have gone from poor to middle class just in the last decade or two, in fact there are about 4 million in this country alone just in one sector of society. The flaw in the reasoning is that once a poor person becomes rich, we no longer consider them people, instead of saying "hmm, yes, poor became rich after all", they just BECOME regarded as the evil "rich" people you refer to in the mantra, and "the poor" of course "remain" poor because it is by definition that "the poor" are "poor" (the flaw is that "the poor" is not a static set, members are always entering and leaving).

Almost everyone I graduated with has gone from owning virtually nothing, to owning cars/houses etc., in just a decade or so, JUST from working hard ... so yes, many 'poor' people get richer every single day. Sometimes rich people do become poor too, in fact it happens more often than people care to admit, because we're not supposed to feel sorry for rich people. What communist silliness.

BTW many poor people don't use electric stoves, they use paraffin etc.
 
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