PC VS Mac

Sackboy said:
Thanks. Next time I should avoid all the pointed and leading questions then and risk criticism for that? I find it quite revealing that the people sniping are almost never contributing to the topic :rolleyes:
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If contributing to the topic means justifying why we choose mac?
 
Sputnik said:
If contributing to the topic means justifying why we choose mac?
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You spent valuable debating time and thought looking up Godwin's Law (referring to Nazis by the way) just to offend. If that's contributing then you're giving the technical marvel that is Sputnik a bad name:rolleyes:.

headsore said:
used Mac, Windows, and Ubuntu...Mac to me leaves little competition. I am not going to state why because of the reactions and all the arguments etc. It is my opinion. You want gaming..PC...everything else seems much better on a mac. Interesting look:
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=9
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I see it another way. Apple should reclaim it's gaming image and make it THE platform for them. It fits with the other graphically intensive activities of PRO MAC users and serves as a draw card for the young.
 
gaming will probably pick up as its market share does. Some games are available. Many of the big ones.
 
Sackboy said:
I see it another way. Apple should reclaim it's gaming image and make it THE platform for them. It fits with the other graphically intensive activities of PRO MAC users and serves as a draw card for the young.
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Macs already handle OpenGL very well in the various discrete graphics card solutions available. The processors are fast too and most machines come with minimum of 2GB RAM nowadays. It's now up to the game industry to code for
OSX and OpenGL instead of sticking to DirectX and Windoze.

Anyway you can always buy a cheap OEM version of Windoze and use bootcamp to boot into it to play any Windoze game a Windoze user can play.
 
I got a mac on the first of jan, and wow it works so well... never going back to a windows machine ever!!! screw the games i will use a console for that
 
SYNERGY said:
I have a Mac & a PC.
Still use the PC 95% of the time.
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Use the right tool for the job. No one said it will necessarily be a Mac.

kilobitsperyear said:
the EXCUSE for a dedicated docking station!!
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That is *not* an Apple product, it's a third-party accessory. Just like the breakfast tables some guys bolt to the back of their '85 Nissan Skylines in some parts of southern Jo'burg...

Sackboy said:
Thanks. Next time I should avoid all the pointed and leading questions then and risk criticism for that? I find it quite revealing that the people sniping are almost never contributing to the topic :rolleyes:
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And you have contributed what exactly?

Sackboy said:
You spent valuable debating time and thought looking up Godwin's Law (referring to Nazis by the way) just to offend.
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You might want to look up the precise wording of Godwin's law.
 
kilobitsperyear said:
Hi All

I was looking at the Macbook / Pro... wondering if the (lack of) size and price of the thing was actually worth it... getting the demo...

I was impressed by the design... I like the screens... hang, I even liked the feel of the keyboard...

I was buzzing along quite light-headed with the thought of spending hard earned cash on one of these things...

Until...
I saw
the EXCUSE for a dedicated docking station!!

OMG... it was like something kludged together the night before a school project was meant to be handed in. Huge plastic thing with all the LAN, modem and other port things attached to arms that had to line up with the ports on the MacBook and "guided" in. FUGLY FUGLY FUGLY and expensive after thought.

With a (now relieved) THUD... the money hit the wallet and I left the store. I just KNOW the salesrep HATED the "docking solution" with every fibre in his being.

Just take a look at the Macbook... and at the same time glance at the threat of a docking solution... I do not know if I want to laugh or cry!!!!!
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Apart from that Apple hasnt made a docking station in about a decade why would you buy one anyway? Plugging in the power and a monitor is a simple task and everything else can be done wirelessly.
 
bwana said:
Apart from that Apple hasnt made a docking station in about a decade why would you buy one anyway? Plugging in the power and a monitor is a simple task and everything else can be done wirelessly.
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Port replicators are very useful on pc laptops. I am in and out of meetings the whole day and just simply undock and run. I also take my laptop home almost everydat to vpn in if necessary, so it is useful when you can can simply dock and undock. I still have to lock the kensington lock though...

But then again I only use my mac at home though and have no need for a port replicator.
 
Hey All

Not to bash Apple or nuthin'... but in my mind not having a viable docking solution for a notebook is almost a deal-breaker... not being able to swap-out a flat battery or add a 2nd when needed is. But, then again, perhaps the MBP is not aimed at this segment of the market. Aimed at the individual with other Apple products and not the corporate power user - perhaps a market differentiation in a saturated segement.

The Apple Macbook Pro looks good... but for around the same price I found similar spec'd HP WITH docking stations AND snap-on extra battery / hot-swappable optical drive or battery options giving up to 16 hours use away from the juice. For the SAME price as the MBP on its own.

I think that if your needs fit the Apple mold, then you will not have an issue with their products. But, others like myself, will find that sacrifices need be made in order to maintain the same level of PC functionality or extra must be spent to overcome these limitations.

Great products, priced just right for Apple's market.
 
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Sputnik said:
Port replicators are very useful on pc laptops. I am in and out of meetings the whole day and just simply undock and run. I also take my laptop home almost everydat to vpn in if necessary, so it is useful when you can can simply dock and undock. I still have to lock the kensington lock though...

But then again I only use my mac at home though and have no need for a port replicator.
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Port replicator? Is that another term for a USB hub? :confused: I guess I'm just not seeing the point of a docking station but then I got myself a laptop in order to avoid being desk-bound. :)
adsl3g said:
Best post in here.. I luv my Macs and iPhone and never bother to argue with PC/Windows Freaks....!!
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Yeah - you're right. :)
 
Sputnik said:
Same thing, I suppose, the result is the same.
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Isnt a docking station pretty much redundant these days? I look at my home and office set up and the printers, hard drives (including my time machine drive), keyboard and mouse - all wireless. I wouldnt mind if they added a card reader to the MBP in lieu of the ExpressCard/34 slot that I've never used.
 
I've been using a Mac - one of the aluminum/glass models - to work with for the past few months. I love the screen. Overall it's a nice experience. I just hate the fact that you have to search so hard to find software for specific uses, whereas PC has such an abundance of useful freeware apps. I'm trying to parse a video in iMovie, only to discover that it only uses two obscure video formats and I can't find an encoder which will transfer the video over for me on Mac - ffmpegx doesn't work, despite spending 4 hours getting it set up. So guess what - back to PC for a job that Mac should be able to do sleeping given its reputation as a media powerhouse.
 
Hi All

Perhaps if you are a MBP road warrior the lack of dock options are not an issue... but for me my notebook is a desktop replacement that allows mobility when the need arises. To have to constantly connect and reconnect all the peripherals would drive me nuts!

Perhaps with Mac wireless hard drives are ok.. I just find shunting GBs of data much faster with a wired connection. Also a lot of my current equipment would have to be replaced, again, just to use the MBP as in the same role as my current "pc" notebook.

If I look at my wired setup... 2nd monitor, many external hard drives, scanner, printer, wacom, keyboard, trackball, surround sound speakers, wired router, etc... for me, my a dock IS essential.

But, hey, it is just me and my setup. As I have said before... if your needs fit the Apple mold and you can function within their constraints, then the Mac is perfect...
 
cerebus said:
I've been using a Mac - one of the aluminum/glass models - to work with for the past few months. I love the screen. Overall it's a nice experience. I just hate the fact that you have to search so hard to find software for specific uses, whereas PC has such an abundance of useful freeware apps. I'm trying to parse a video in iMovie, only to discover that it only uses two obscure video formats and I can't find an encoder which will transfer the video over for me on Mac - ffmpegx doesn't work, despite spending 4 hours getting it set up. So guess what - back to PC for a job that Mac should be able to do sleeping given its reputation as a media powerhouse.
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Did you ask around here wrt your video format problems? There are power users aplenty here.

kilobitsperyear said:
Hi All

Perhaps if you are a MBP road warrior the lack of dock options are not an issue... but for me my notebook is a desktop replacement that allows mobility when the need arises. To have to constantly connect and reconnect all the peripherals would drive me nuts!

Perhaps with Mac wireless hard drives are ok.. I just find shunting GBs of data much faster with a wired connection. Also a lot of my current equipment would have to be replaced, again, just to use the MBP as in the same role as my current "pc" notebook.

If I look at my wired setup... 2nd monitor, many external hard drives, scanner, printer, wacom, keyboard, trackball, surround sound speakers, wired router, etc... for me, my a dock IS essential.

But, hey, it is just me and my setup. As I have said before... if your needs fit the Apple mold and you can function within their constraints, then the Mac is perfect...
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Dont you think that if there was a credible demand for docking stations several of the third party hardware developers would have been chomping at the bit to fill that void?
 
bwana said:
Isnt a docking station pretty much redundant these days? I look at my home and office set up and the printers, hard drives (including my time machine drive), keyboard and mouse - all wireless. I wouldnt mind if they added a card reader to the MBP in lieu of the ExpressCard/34 slot that I've never used.
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No, I wouldn't say so. I have two docks, one for office and one for home. The power supplies are always plugged in, so is lan and monitor. That means I only have to cart the machine around and not extra power supplies and so forth.
 
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