Peruvian prison 'hell': Life after lockup

GhostSixFour said:
It's not like he shoved it up their noses? Those people wanted the drug. He didn't create the market.

Legalise all this nonsense, tax it, and control it.
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This isn't dagga...it's hard drugs. I doubt it's legal even in the Netherlands. He is an enabler, knowing it was wrong to do so. Screw that...play his violin elsewhere about his "alleged" drug dealing. Guilty as charged, hope he enjoyed the stay in prison there. Nobody here cares, and they should stop portraying him as a victim.

As for the others in prisons overseas, they can stay there and live out their sentences. No need to come back to 3 meals a day and TV.
 
First rule of being a successful criminal is not looking like a criminal. Mr Neethling failed that first test badly. He looks like a character in a drug mule documentary. diamond earing, shiny bracelet, dodgy bokbaard.

Edit: You are a customs agent looking for cocaine, with a limited amount of people you can search each day. Which one do you pull aside at the nothing to declare line and search?

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JohnStarr said:
This isn't dagga...it's hard drugs. I doubt it's legal even in the Netherlands. He is an enabler, knowing it was wrong to do so. Screw that...play his violin elsewhere about his "alleged" drug dealing. Guilty as charged, hope he enjoyed the stay in prison there. Nobody here cares, and they should stop portraying him as a victim.

As for the others in prisons overseas, they can stay there and live out their sentences. No need to come back to 3 meals a day and TV.
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Portugal decriminalized all drugs in 2001, and surprise surprise, it is working...

https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...licy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it
Portugal’s radical drugs policy is working. Why hasn’t the world copied it?
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Since it decriminalised all drugs in 2001, Portugal has seen dramatic drops in overdoses, HIV infection and drug-related crime. By Susana Ferreira
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thestaggy said:
Believable.

I follow news on the Mexican cartels and coke is actually very cheap to produce relative to selling price, so it makes sense to sacrifice - even deliberately so - a few mules so the main one can get through.

Again from following the Mexican cartels, I wouldn't even be surprised if they themselves make the tip-off as the system is so corrupt. Make law enforcement look good when they catch a mule and seize product, but in reality you are still paying them off and your drugs still got through with their knowledge.
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But that would require the druglord to know the details of the mule's flight. He'd need to know which mule is on which flight and choose which one would be the decoy. I find it a bit difficult to believe they'd be able to choreograph those logistics.

Unless the druglord is actually the one booking the flights.
 
notayoba said:
First rule of being a successful criminal is not looking like a criminal. Mr Neethling failed that first test badly. He looks like a character in a drug mule documentary. diamond earing, shiny bracelet, dodgy bokbaard.

Edit: You are a customs agent looking for cocaine, with a limited amount of people you can search each day. Which one do you pull aside at the nothing to declare line and search?

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This one - she looks dodgy as fsk.

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notayoba said:
First rule of being a successful criminal is not looking like a criminal. Mr Neethling failed that first test badly. He looks like a character in a drug mule documentary. diamond earing, shiny bracelet, dodgy bokbaard.

Edit: You are a customs agent looking for cocaine, with a limited amount of people you can search each day. Which one do you pull aside at the nothing to declare line and search?
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Yup, The film Mule with Clint Eastwood illustrated that, no one would have expected that 90-year-old Leo Sharp (the real-life inspiration), was a drug mule...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Sharp
 
GhostSixFour said:
It's not like he shoved it up their noses? Those people wanted the drug. He didn't create the market.

Legalise all this nonsense, tax it, and control it.
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Even if legalised, do you think it is going to stop the blood flow and all the problems around it?

A little insight in to how these guys operate; In Mexico, drug cartels have muscled in on farming, specifically avocado farming because of the lucrative US market. They extort producers, transporters and packers and threaten them with violence. If coke is legalised they're still going to violently dominate the market.
 
The_Ogre said:
But that would require the druglord to know the details of the mule's flight. He'd need to know which mule is on which flight and choose which one would be the decoy. I find it a bit difficult to believe they'd be able to choreograph those logistics.

Unless the druglord is actually the one booking the flights.
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These guys - drug lords - know exactly who is carrying what where and when. If not directly, their lieutenants/plaza bosses will.

The Mexican cartels have full blown logistic networks.
 
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thestaggy said:
Even if legalised, do you think it is going to stop the blood flow and all the problems around it?

A little insight in to how these guys operate; In Mexico, drug cartels have muscled in on farming, specifically avocado farming because of the lucrative US market. They extort producers, transporters and packers and threaten them with violence. If coke is legalised they're still going to violently dominate the market.
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Never said it would.

I just think it would be great for the country. Lots of employment opportunities. Large new tax income stream. Plus, if it's legalised it would reduce if not stop accidental OD's from using drugs laced with dog **** or whatever.
 
JohnStarr said:
This isn't dagga...it's hard drugs. I doubt it's legal even in the Netherlands. He is an enabler, knowing it was wrong to do so. Screw that...play his violin elsewhere about his "alleged" drug dealing. Guilty as charged, hope he enjoyed the stay in prison there. Nobody here cares, and they should stop portraying him as a victim.

As for the others in prisons overseas, they can stay there and live out their sentences. No need to come back to 3 meals a day and TV.
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Cool. How many lives have been destroyed by Alcohol? How many people are addicted to sugar? Cigarettes, yeah, they kill slower but it's the same concept really? We don't even understand fully the long term effects of vaping yet, that's legal.

Why remove access? People already know it's bad for them. They're gonna do it anyway.

EDIT: There is bigger issues in SA than controlling drug use. The tax is needed more than the additional criminals in prison. Heck, Imagine the dischem specials. With every 3 grams of Cocaine purchased, you get a free Narcan... Or however that works.
 
GhostSixFour said:
Cool. How many lives have been destroyed by Alcohol? How many people are addicted to sugar? Cigarettes, yeah, they kill slower but it's the same concept really? We don't even understand fully the long term effects of vaping yet, that's legal.

Why remove access? People already know it's bad for them. They're gonna do it anyway.

EDIT: There is bigger issues in SA than controlling drug use. The tax is needed more than the additional criminals in prison. Heck, Imagine the dischem specials. With every 3 grams of Cocaine purchased, you get a free Narcan... Or however that works.
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The problem is we're still surrounded by small minded people who thinks it's their right to control what everyone else is doing..

The Portugal solution cannot work for them since they don't see people as individuals with individual wills.

I suspect religion has lots to do with this state of mind..
 
Legalisation of all recreational drugs is the only way, criminalizing only helps the criminals, it gives them a captive market all to themselves.

I remember reading in some country how the criminals resisted decriminalization for that same reason, it meant their monopolies would come to a sudden and grinding halt and they violently opposed it.

Considering the vast amount of legal "drugs" and other addictive products that are allowed to be sold, protection of the population is clearly not the aim of governments that criminalize drugs, it's to appease the religious nuts, certain business sectors, political rhetoric and other nefarious interests.

And in any case no matter what barriers you put in place you can never stop the flow of drugs or even come close to stemming it, so it's not a logical option even if there was a good basis for preventing it.
 
notayoba said:
First rule of being a successful criminal is not looking like a criminal. Mr Neethling failed that first test badly. He looks like a character in a drug mule documentary. diamond earing, shiny bracelet, dodgy bokbaard.

Edit: You are a customs agent looking for cocaine, with a limited amount of people you can search each day. Which one do you pull aside at the nothing to declare line and search?

diamond-earrings-for-men2.jpg


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I thought that was a before and after picture...8 years in a Peruvian jail can be tough.
 
The_Ogre said:
But that would require the druglord to know the details of the mule's flight. He'd need to know which mule is on which flight and choose which one would be the decoy. I find it a bit difficult to believe they'd be able to choreograph those logistics.

Unless the druglord is actually the one booking the flights.
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WTF are you on about...druglord??

The druglord, as you call him/her, is in Switzerland and Monaco doing billion US$ and Euro property deals with laundered money....not running through the Mexican jungle swinging a machete and organizing drug mules.

He has Generals, Captains, Lieutenants and soldiers doing the work for him.
 
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