Pick n Pay moves its IT infrastructure to Amazon Web Services

Syphonx said:
Your poor customers, but based on your responses here it won't take them long to get rid of you.
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I'm guessing Checkers laughed him out the door since they're still rocking their bad architecture.
 
B-1 said:
I'm sure it was earlier than that but my memory might be off. If I remember correctly EC2 was available on our dash from about April 2020. Some of the banks I believe started in 2019 somewhere. Direct connect was available from 2017 and cloudfront launched end of 2018 I think. At the cloudfront launch we were told we could do private cloud in SA if we wanted and the full launch was "imminent" it took them longer than expected though to launch officially.
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Oh yeah but those other services weren't at their own data centres but just at different co-locations (and still are I believe).

You aren't wrong the banks were the first cloak and dagger customers amongst some others and I'm lead to believe actually were the push to get them to commit to going local due to legislative requirements and what not.

Official availability for anyone and everyone was April 2020.

But the 3 x DC's only completed construction by December 2019/January 2020 so there was nothing in service even for testing before then.
 
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B-1 said:
Latency, it really shouldnt take 160+ms to get to Ireland and back. I thought light speed was fast bring on quantum networking already.
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Every little ms matters in systems like this, besides the best practice to always deploy as close to customers as possible. Wonder why they said that....
 
Benedict A55h0le said:
Yes I said that, nothing to do with lift and shift. If there was a AWS datacentre in SA at the time and they chose that, it would have been completely acceptable.
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So your opinion on location location location is the be all and end all then?
 
Benedict A55h0le said:
I am a cloud architect that looked at how the Checkers system was built. It was built badly and one of my questions was why the system was running in Ireland while there was a local Azure. There was no answer to this and nobody cared. This is just how they operate, badly.
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The one where they used nats.io and it struggled under load?

(real question, without... r/givingyougrief)
 
B-1 said:
Latency, it really shouldnt take 160+ms to get to Irland and back. I thought light speed was fast bring on quantum networking already.
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Yeah I thought you meant that.
So many routers and so many store and forward buffers between us and them :(
Most of the latency is probably introduced where the pipeline narrows with undersea cables.
By that I mean, the part where the packets are ultimately put on the one of the few high speed fibres going to the destination.
The total packets per second on those links are insane and placing them on that link and then getting them back off that queue almost certainly dominates the latency.
 
ToxicBunny said:
I'm guessing Checkers laughed him out the door since they're still rocking their bad architecture.
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He never got in the door.

Shoprite/Checkers poached people directly from AWS in Cape Town to do that entire project and they still manage it now.

Most likely Azure wasn't on the cards because there was no talent for it way back when all this happened.
 
this is the reason you dont use developers to architect a system.Get the technical people to do this , and keep the developers in a dark room, doing what they do best :sneaky::whistling:
 
Syphonx said:
I always wondered how anyone could be so bad at handling the government cloud infrastructure, I think we just found their lead 'architect'.
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Another noob who enjoys mindless insults, very brave of you to do over the internet.
 
ToxicBunny said:
So your opinion on location location location is the be all and end all then?
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I was on an e-commerce platform and at one point they bought new on Orem servers because the Azure/AWS couldn't give us good enough speed (think we were after sun 10ms but memory is fuzzy).

And then when you work with sensitive data and strict data laws location becomes very important.
 
J&B said:
Jirre you okes are clever here on this thread. I don't know WTF you are mainly talking about so I'm just sitting here and reading and nodding my head in agreement :popcorn:
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They're arguing about nothing really. Trying to show each other how much they know.

Very tiresome.
 
Hamster said:
I was on an e-commerce platform and at one point they bought new on Orem servers because the Azure/AWS couldn't give us good enough speed (think we were after sun 10ms but memory is fuzzy).

And then when you work with sensitive data and strict data laws location becomes very important.
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Oh if your goal is location location location due to regulatory pressures then by all means... If its location location location just to have EVERYTHING next to the customer, you're doing it wrong.
 
Hamster said:
I was on an e-commerce platform and at one point they bought new on Orem servers because the Azure/AWS couldn't give us good enough speed (think we were after sun 10ms but memory is fuzzy).

And then when you work with sensitive data and strict data laws location becomes very important.
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Yeah I think at this point that is probably the biggest driver beyond cost and performance is most hands being forced to keep certain data in country.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Oh if your goal is location location location due to regulatory pressures then by all means... If its location location location just to have EVERYTHING next to the customer, you're doing it wrong.
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But that is recommended practice so not wrong.
 
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