Pick n Pay moves its IT infrastructure to Amazon Web Services

[Bobbin]

"Cloud Architects" with "certification" in specific provider is a bit like a "financial advisor"
They are a sales person for that company with a fancy title ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

True. But also true is one Cloud Provider, like Azure, has enough to have to learn and understand to last you a fekking lifetime. Nevermind having to worry about other providers and their kak too. And also knowing all the caveats around jumping between them (how to failover/failback between, how to migrate between, how to network between, what can talk to what, what has feature parity with what, what costs what, what license what)

Or I'm just stupid. But hell, I can't keep up anymore One is more than enough thanks!

 

[Benedict A55h0le not]

Oh so now its strange, not bad... cool, gotcha.

Yes it was bad, nice try though.

 

[ToxicBunny]

But that is recommended practice so not wrong.

Mind linking me to this recommended practice you talk of, that specifically talks to put everything as close to the customer as possible over every other consideration.

 

[Vorastra]

@Benedict A55h0le why don't you like AWS.
What did AWS do to you.

 

[Benedict A55h0le not]

Mind linking me to this recommended practice you talk of, that specifically talks to put everything as close to the customer as possible over every other consideration.

Now you are just adding more words I did not say. As stated by others, your mindless poking of fun is not funny, its just tiresome.

 

[Syphonx]

Another noob who enjoys mindless insults, very brave of you to do over the internet.

Yes, it is a real struggle to post on here for me, the latency is terrible, mybb should switch to local Azure.

ping mybroadband.co.za
PING mybroadband.co.za (104.22.47.73) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 104.22.47.73 (104.22.47.73): icmp_seq=1 ttl=43 time=176 ms

I am surprised you haven't deleted your account and started a competitor to mybb with local hosting, they would never be able to compete.

 

[Benedict A55h0le not]

@Benedict A55h0le why don't you like AWS.
What did AWS do to you.

I think I hate AWS because I read too much nonsense in articles written by so-called AWS experts.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Now you are just adding more words I did not say. As stated by others, your mindless poking of fun is not funny, its just tiresome.

Oh I'm finding it hilarious and tons of fun.

 

[Benedict A55h0le not]

Yes, it is a real struggle to post on here for me, the latency is terrible, mybb should switch to local Azure.



I am surprised you haven't deleted your account and started a competitor to mybb with local hosting, they would never be able to compete.

Go read your cloud for dummies book.

 

[Gnome]

True. But also true is one Cloud Provider, like Azure, has enough to have to learn and understand to last you a fekking lifetime. Nevermind having to worry about other providers and their kak too. And also knowing all the caveats around jumping between them (how to failover between, how to migrate between, how to network between, what can talk to what, what has feature parity with what, what costs what, what license what)

Or I'm just stupid. But hell, I can't keep up anymore One is more than enough thanks!

Microsoft is starting to innovate a bit more but AWS I believe is still considered the market leader by reputable research such as Gartner, so they are probably the company to watch for "new developments".
ie. They started the whole cloud computing craze, created S3, EC2, EBS, Lambda, etc. (basically copied as is by other providers and the trend of just copying AWS is still continuing)

So if it is just about know what is available, I'd definitely keep my eye on them.

That said, I think a lot of this stuff is a bit of trying to start with technology and make a company work for that technology.
I'd really start with how the company works, see how I can migrate them as is and then adapt their workflows to these new services being offered as optimisations after getting everything migrated.

For a Microsoft shop (ie. .NET, Windows Server, etc.), I expect Azure can make a lot of sense.
For other setups, AWS (in my biased opinion), makes a lot of sense.

 

[J&B]

They're arguing about nothing really. Trying to show each other how much they know.

Very tiresome.

Trying to outsmart each other

 

[Vorastra]

Yes, it is a real struggle to post on here for me, the latency is terrible, mybb should switch to local Azure.



I am surprised you haven't deleted your account and started a competitor to mybb with local hosting, they would never be able to compete.

Hang on, why are you getting 176ms yet I get 3ms.

 

[Kola-CT]

Hang on, why are you getting 176ms yet I get 3ms.

Also wondering about that...

@Syphonx where are you pinging from?

 

[Syphonx]

Hang on, why are you getting 176ms yet I get 3ms.

Work laptop, must be part of the DNS blocking nonsense they install, my server has sub 1ms on the same connection.

 

[konfab]

I was on an e-commerce platform and at one point they bought new on Orem servers because the Azure/AWS couldn't give us good enough speed (think we were after sun 10ms but memory is fuzzy).

And then when you work with sensitive data and strict data laws location becomes very important.

Data residency is far more of a reason why there are regional services.

Take Canada for example, pretty much all their population live within a decent latency of the US, but because of data residency requirements, they have their own region.

 

[B-1]

Yeah I thought you meant that.
So many routers and so many store and forward buffers between us and them
Most of the latency is probably introduced where the pipeline narrows with undersea cables.
By that I mean, the part where the packets are ultimately put on the one of the few high speed fibres going to the destination.
The total packets per second on those links are insane and placing them on that link and then getting them back off that queue almost certainly dominates the latency.

What I mean is just the time it takes for light to travel down a fiber optic cable is about half the latency we experience. So just for the light beam to travel from Capetown to Ireland is somewhere around 30-40ms one way so 60-80ms round trip. Yes switching is also a big part but its fairly incredible that so much switching happens and half is still just the limitations of physics.

 

[konfab]

And all this discussion is ignoring the fact that if latency for requests really became a problem for Pick and Pay, they would start putting edge nodes for their cloud infrastructure where needed.

 

[Hamster]

And all this discussion is ignoring the fact that if latency for requests really became a problem for Pick and Pay, they would start putting edge nodes for their cloud infrastructure where needed.

Sounds "cloud architecty"

 

[B-1]

Sounds "cloud architecty"

You gotta compute on the edge or are you really even computing?

 

[WAslayer]

Since when? And this is just 1 type of cloud service. If it was possible to do this locally then why is all Checkers` AWS stuff in Ireland and Germany? No, the better choice is to use the full blown Azure cloud that have been up in JHB for years already. Even has local fall over to Azure CPT.

You'd probably find checkers migrated to AWS prior to them launching the SA region..

As for the choice to not go with Azure, different strokes...