PICS: Toddler thrown through windscreen in crash

Nerfherder said:
Having a rear facing car seat reduces the force of a head on by 60%, not that easy to have a 4 year old rear facing.

I think with front facing there is still a reduction of like 20% as the seat absorbs some of the impact.
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Yes car seats help a lot. This little girl was at an accident scene I was taking photos of years ago. No car seat, strapped in on the front seat of a XR3 Escort. Something I would not wish anyone to see. The Escort wasn't even the guilty party and the mother suvived. Little kids just don't have the neck strengh to support such an impact.
 
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Kosmik said:
I don't think there are car seats rear facing for children that size? My four year old certainly won't fit in one but by the same token, he's strapped in a chair and his feet are touching back of my chair, so in theory he should go into the back of my chair if loose. The restraints should prevent him from catapulting over the seats and the straps are over the shoulders , not by the neck. Only the very large seat allows the standard seatbelt across his chest. near his neck but I also put that across the seat.
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We changed our kids to booster seats at around that age. The seatbelt is not designed for the size of kids. I have seen this alarming habit of kids strapping themselves in but the bealt over the chest is moved in behind them so they are only buckled in around the waist. That is just as faking bad :eek:
 
Pitbull said:
I would actually disagree in this case. The forces involved in a head-on would have most probably severed his head if he was restrained. He's 4 years old.

Any other form of accident I would agree with you. Sad though, if the kid was at least just seated behind the front seats...
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Not if he was in a safety seat facing the back. Lots of people use baby seats wrong. It should never face to the front.
 
Photos of accidents like these should be issued to traffic cops. They must force parents to look at all of them when they're pulled over with kids that is not restrained. It's cruel, but some people never listen. I witness this risky behavior of unrestrained children in a car almost every day.
 
Rear facing always, even a 4year old can face to the rear. Bend those legs, contort if you have to that's what I tell my 3year old. Or face death... she opts for bending the legs.

Yes I scare the living crap out of her, because it scares the living crap out of me so then we're even.

#BadParentSoWhatShesStrappedIn #MicDrop
 
Park@82 said:
I have only seen these for babies. Are they generally available for ages 1-4? Checked on Takealot, don't see any.
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Unfortunately they're quite hard to get in SA. We have two imported Britax seats which can do rear facing for 5 or 6 year olds. Something like this I think, I dunno exactly the model, my wife is quite knowledgeable about this stuff. But our 3 year old daughter and until recently 6 year old son were in them.
 
cerebus said:
That's why you should use a rear-racing car seat.

[video=youtube;sssIsceKd6U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sssIsceKd6U[/video]

This country is horrendously backwards when it comes to car seat laws. Of course, if the kid was even in just a basic booster seat, he would still have had a better chance of survival than being thrown through the car window.
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Problem is though that you are more likely to be rear ended than front ended and then the backwards seat logic is well...backwards.

Ultimately a car seat is better than no car seat.
 
LPCPT said:
Not if he was in a safety seat facing the back. Lots of people use baby seats wrong. It should never face to the front.
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Baby seats are pretty much all rear-facing from what I've seen.

Toddlers (where do you want to draw the age line?) are generally forward facing.

I don't see how you can use it wrong if it was designed for a given purpose. Unless you mean they put the wrong size child in the wrong chair.
 
Mr G said:
Even my 7 year old is not allowed to drive in anyone's car unless he is strapped in either the front or back seat. He's already refused to drive in his uncle's car because there wasn't a seat-belt available, even though the trip was literally 500m.
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Have you seen what an airbag can do to a child? I'd advise you limit the times you let him sit in front at that age.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Problem is though that you are more likely to be rear ended than front ended and then the backwards seat logic is well...backwards.

Ultimately a car seat is better than no car seat.
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The research on this is fairly unequivocal.
 
YingYang said:
Have you seen what an airbag can do to a child? I'd advise you limit the times you let him sit in front at that age.
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Well you can turn it off.

Think newer cars automatically turn off if there isn't enough weight.
 
The difference in this situation, with regards to whether you should strap your child in or not....is probably man slaughter
 
SauRoNZA said:
Problem is though that you are more likely to be rear ended than front ended and then the backwards seat logic is well...backwards.

Ultimately a car seat is better than no car seat.
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Yes, but overall, how severe are most rear end crashes compared to head on crashes?
 
SauRoNZA said:
Does the research apply to or always assume mostly frontal crashes?
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Even if rear crashes are more common they are surely at lower speed. Frontal crashes are on average at higher speeds of impact. But I didn't do the research so i'm happy to be wrong
 
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