Piracy and music sales

Artists should stop recording music as a protest to people stealing their music. Just do live gigs. Charge loads of cash for it. The only recording they should do is snippets of songs to promote the gig. They can also make cash from toothpaste and washing powder adds. The only recordings will be will the crap quality from some blokes hidden recording device, assume he managed to get past the metal detectors :D

At least the quality of toothpaste and washing powder adds might increase. No guarentees though. :D
 
I wouldn't have necessarily bought a legal copy of a song I downloaded illegally. Thus meaning that the artists/recording co.'s lost ****.
 
[s]uNq;2934625 said:
So when I need the stuff on iPod I just remove the DRM and bobs my uncle.
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Err, how exactly do you accomplish that feat?
 
<moLe> said:
heard it all before, give me a decent platform from which to purchase my music online in SA and I will use it...but currently dont see any that catches my fancy
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Please detail exactly what would inspire you to pay for the music you want and I will see what I can do to get you there. Not because I'm a nice guy but because I write music/songs, get them recorded and lose much of the royalties due to me through piracy. I get robbed every day. How's that for a crime statistic?:eek:
 
MP3s suck. The amount I am willing to pay for them is the cost of the bandwidth to download them. If there is any DRM involved then I expect to be paid for the inconvenience and time involved in dealing with it.

I'll pay for lossless with no DRM.

zippy said:
Artists should stop recording music as a protest to people stealing their music. Just do live gigs. Charge loads of cash for it. The only recording they should do is snippets of songs to promote the gig. They can also make cash from toothpaste and washing powder adds. The only recordings will be will the crap quality from some blokes hidden recording device, assume he managed to get past the metal detectors :D
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Someone on the crew will just do high quality recordings.
 
Redant said:
Please detail exactly what would inspire you to pay for the music you want and I will see what I can do to get you there. Not because I'm a nice guy but because I write music/songs, get them recorded and lose much of the royalties due to me through piracy. I get robbed every day. How's that for a crime statistic?:eek:
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Having been on this forum for a while, most dont consider it a crime. ;)

Some believe they are entitled to the music and THEY should detirmine how much it should cost! And if its too much for them, they go rip it off else where.

Unfortunatly such a mentality is VERY prevelant in our society. :(
 
I think the app called MediaCoder will do the trick. It's a bit tricky though to navigate through all those codec options but I'm sure y'all will grasp what needs to be done. You can also transcode encrypted DVD .vob files to MPEG2 or AVI. But don't do that, it's illegal. ;-)
 
[s]uNq;2934625 said:
Look, I fully agree DRM has added annoyances, specifically the whole portable device limitation. At the same time though getmo stores my download history, which I consider proof to my legal holding of the track in question. So when I need the stuff on iPod I just remove the DRM and bobs my uncle. In my mind thats still better than doing it the completely illegal route.

GetMo is R60 pm, unlimited downloads within your cap. Uncapped FTW :P
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By removing the DRM you are invalidating that licence. That music was licensed to you on the provision that you do not modify the wrapper. So strictly speaking, it makes no sense to do this to cover yourself - you're only covered if you keep the DRM and when your portable player dies, buy the music again for the new player.
 
PeterCH said:
It's illegal? It's not illegal. It breaks the licensing but at the same time you're allowed to make a backup of your software BY LAW - so it's not illegal.
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You are allowed to back up the data you have created with that software. And you can keep the discs for recovery purposes. The software itself belongs to the vendor. And they give you the license to use their software, should you use it any other way than in the terms of your license, you break your agreement with them, and they can seek legal remedy. Thats what makes it illegal.
 
sox63 said:
You are allowed to back up the data you have created with that software. And you can keep the discs for recovery purposes. The software itself belongs to the vendor. And they give you the license to use their software, should you use it any other way than in the terms of your license, you break your agreement with them, and they can seek legal remedy. Thats what makes it illegal.
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You can backup the software you purchased ie make a copy of the disk.

The backing up of the data files you're working with or JPEGs you're editing has NOTHING to do with this. Most countries' copyright laws allow backups of the actual purchased application, eg USA and SA.

You can make at least 1 backup of that Win Vista DVD.
You can make at least 1 backup of that blockbuster DVD you bought.
Once you resell the item, you must transfer or destroy the backup.

Secondly this thing falls pretty much under civil law, the company in question would need to sue in a civil court.
 
sox63 said:
And that makes it okay? :confused:
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Backups are always LEGAL.

When someone says illegal the infer criminal charges, licensing issues are handled in civil courts.

You need to keep that :confused: smiley.

Case in point, the FBI warning on DVDs. It's fake. It doesn't come from the FBI. Copyright infringement is criminal only if you sell your wares, if you do it for personal use or business use
it falls under civil statutes, case in point - these RIAA lawsuits.
 
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PeterCH said:
Backups are always LEGAL.

When someone says illegal the infer criminal charges, licensing issues are handled in civil courts.

You need to keep that :confused: smiley.

Case in point, the FBI warning on DVDs. It's fake. It doesn't come from the FBI. Copyright infringement is criminal only if you sell your wares, if you do it for personal use or business use
it falls under civil statutes, case in point - these RIAA lawsuits.
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:p

Going through your posts, I realise you talking mainly about backing up than piracy, my bad. :o
 
Redant said:
Please detail exactly what would inspire you to pay for the music you want and I will see what I can do to get you there. Not because I'm a nice guy but because I write music/songs, get them recorded and lose much of the royalties due to me through piracy. I get robbed every day. How's that for a crime statistic?:eek:
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Out of interest, can you say what percentage of profits from recordings go to you and what percentage to your label? And have you considered the model whereby giving your music away for free will result in more fans attending your live shows?
 
kilps said:
Out of interest, can you say what percentage of profits from recordings go to you and what percentage to your label? And have you considered the model whereby giving your music away for free will result in more fans attending your live shows?
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I receive a very VERY small percentage of the profits from recordings. I'm just the guy who writes the lyrics. I don't do live performances, just write the stuff that other folk perform/record. You know, the guy that creates the original song that everyone else makes big bucks out of.:(
 
Redant said:
I receive a very VERY small percentage of the profits from recordings. I'm just the guy who writes the lyrics. I don't do live performances, just write the stuff that other folk perform/record. You know, the guy that creates the original song that everyone else makes big bucks out of.:(
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Ok fair enough, my question was more directed towards performers. But from your perspective it wouldn't really make a difference if you received a percentage of profits from live shows should the music be free?
 
kilps said:
Ok fair enough, my question was more directed towards performers. But from your perspective it wouldn't really make a difference if you received a percentage of profits from live shows should the music be free?
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Not quite sure I understand your question. I do receive a royalty evertime anyone performs/plays/records any song that I have written wherever or whenever that may be. It's just that the recentage is very small so the song has to get huge 'exposure' before I make any real money out of my song.
 
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